2016 Boston Celtics Offseason Thread

Enter The Dragan bandwagon, plenty of space (:

Why you might be wrong:

1. While everyone has money to improve, you're going to see that money dry up quickly as we see some guys get seriously overpaid. I don't want to get into the Bradley discussion from several years ago, but if anyone thought he was overpaid . . . hold on to your hats. If one takes today's salary structure and places it within next year's cap then, sure, no need for a lot of trades. But as the Ian Mahinmi's of the world start making some serious dough, we'll see teams try to make some moves to clear room for other pieces.

2. A team like Indiana (maybe Chicago) SHOULD be dealing. They are not going very far with their current roster. They have peaked (or are close to peaking) and there isn't really going to be much opportunity (outside of hitting big on a lower draft pick) to add players around their superstars. George (and now Myles Turner) will keep Indiana right in that "Not good enough to seriously contend but not bad enough to draft a star player" zone.

3. Boston and LA are desperate to make a move. We saw, last year, what Danny was willing to do to get Justise Winslow. Imagine what he'll do to get a Butler or George. And LA has no interest in being a lottery team again (for their own sake as well as for the fact they want the pick that Philly gets to be as low as possible).

Why you might be right:

1. To number 1 above, this will likely lead to a lot of small to mid-level deals (not necessarily big ones) as teams look to gain a little room to fit a particular player.

2. Despite what they SHOULD do from the standpoint of building a future championship team, few teams are interested in going the Philly route. Teams want to sell season tickets and make money at the gate. That's harder to do without a Butler or George (especially when being replaced by, say, a Crowder/Bradley, the #3 pick and other players/picks).

3. Most importantly, because no matter how often we hear "This is going to be a wild offseason" or "This deadline is going to be crazy", most of the times we get a whole lotta "meh".

VERDICT

I agree we won't see many but we could see 1 or 2. The most likely:

1. LA makes a deal for a star. Many predict that they'll get DeMar DeRozan in Free Agency. I'm guessing they'll be desperate to pair him with another young star. Addressing #2 above, those teams will have an easier time if you're replacing a Butler, George (or Cousins) with a Simmons or Ingram plus Russell and/or Randle (as an example).

2. If Boston can get a deal done, Philly might make the most sense. They are already bad. They have an odd combination of young players with all of those big men. And they don't have to worry about not being able to sell tickets bc they traded away their star. Their going to sell tickets with Ingram/Simmons. Adding #3 plus whatever else Boston adds to the mix will be enough to make sure they don't lose any gate.

Next year could be the year we see more activity as the Free Agents look more enticing (especially if, as many suggest, Durant just signs a 1+ deal and opts out next year). Teams may want to preserve cap space for that.

I don't get why the Celtics are basically admitting it will be hard to trade the pick and also that they want to trade it. How does that help at all?

Per Chad Ford who watched Murray's workout, he made 25\27 3 pointers in 2 minutes. Some were 5 feet behind 3 point line. Says he might be best shooter in Draft. Also I didn't know that Murray's father is a Basketball coach, which is most likely why he has a very high basketball IQ.

Also says a scout thinks Thon Maker should watch tape of Tyson Chandler and Ruddy Robert because his D will make an impact well before his offense will. Scout also said Makers offensive skill level is better then both of those players. If his D is anywhere near Chandler or Goberts he is going to be drafted a lot higher then mocks currently have him.

Just need the value of #3 to keep increasing.

I like Murray more than Hield or Dunn, but that doesn't mean much since I'm not a fan of any of them. Hopefully one of them has a legendary Penny Hardaway kind of workout and leapfrog one of Ingram or Simmons so either slide to us, but that's highly unlikely.

That makes total sense.  

Stupid auto correct. Gasper

gallinari?

The more I get into this draft and free agency the more I end up changing my mind. The one thing I've been consistent on is patience. Be patient with this team. We are young, developing and need to make the right moves. I think it's likely that Durant signs a one year deal with OKC now that they are battling GS in the Conference finals, plus it sets him up better next offseason with another cap increase.

That being said, the Celtics should sit tight in free agency this year. I'm now leaning towards picking up Amir's one year option. Still let Sully walk and consider resigning Turner if the money is right. How much of a home town discount does he give? If he signs for 5/40 or 5/45 then great. If he needs to get 10+m a year then I probably let him go.

The only players I may consider in free agency would be one that's a "pre-Allstar" type who you can get on a less than max deal that u expect to take that next step. It's risky, but Ainge and Stevens are great with those guys and it may be this teams best shot at finding that next player. (You probably don't do this and sign Turner)

In the draft, I take Murray or Hield or Bender or Dunn at 3. I prefer the shooting of Murray or Hield. Only reason I consider Dunn is because we don't have a pure PG.

If you can do that, next season should be great like this last one, hopefully you are even better with development and that pre-Allstar now maybe an all-star and enough cap room for a max player next year and a high Brooklyn pick.

Stay patient Danny... I think a year from now is when things will be ripe to pounce. In the meantime, keep developing and adding talent while keeping your flexibility. And give us the product on the court.

Bye Sully

Only two more years on Isiah's contract