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Post by larrycook on Jun 27, 2016 18:36:59 GMT -5
Rodriguez delivery is a mess. Command and control nonexistent,
He needs more time in Pawtucket to get all the pieces in sync,
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Post by rafael on Jun 27, 2016 18:37:39 GMT -5
1.13 FIP? I call it a good inning.
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Post by bosox89 on Jun 27, 2016 18:38:45 GMT -5
Too late to give Bogey that day off?
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Post by bosox on Jun 27, 2016 18:41:48 GMT -5
Rodriguez delivery is a mess. Command and control nonexistent, He needs more time in Pawtucket to get all the pieces in sync, It will be interesting to hear what the plan is for Erod now. He should be sent down until he figures it out. Can't afford to have him work on his issues at this level.
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Post by terriblehondo on Jun 27, 2016 18:41:49 GMT -5
Wilkerson deserves a shot next time through the rotation. Send Erod down to get squared away.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 27, 2016 18:42:13 GMT -5
Sucks that there is nothing on tv tonight.
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Post by rafael on Jun 27, 2016 18:42:35 GMT -5
Snell has a nasty curve.
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Post by terriblehondo on Jun 27, 2016 18:44:14 GMT -5
Sucks that there is nothing on tv tonight. college world series
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Post by larrycook on Jun 27, 2016 18:46:40 GMT -5
Rodriguez delivery is a mess. Command and control nonexistent, He needs more time in Pawtucket to get all the pieces in sync, It will be interesting to hear what the plan is for Erod now. He should be sent down until he figures it out. Can't afford to have him work on his issues at this level. I agree, this is not the environment to experiment. Judging by how the rays are teeing off, I think he is tipping pitches again.
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Post by trotfan on Jun 27, 2016 18:46:51 GMT -5
Time to think about selling off some veterans ...this team is not winning a World Series .Hanley ,Pedey,Bucky,kojii,Taz should all be sold off and start new without Ortiz next year ....pitching pitching and yes more pitching .
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 27, 2016 18:47:01 GMT -5
Can we seriously start to talk about the fact that pitchers constantly underachieve under Farrell? Including the ones with a proven track record.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 27, 2016 18:48:16 GMT -5
Honestly...I have never felt more concerned during this season for the future of this organization than I do tonight. We just seem to be pissing away the youth of of Betts, Bogie and Bradley. Dear Baseball Gods....please help.
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Post by trotfan on Jun 27, 2016 18:50:09 GMT -5
Clay ,erod,porkchop,kojii,Taz,Hanley,Pedey all need to be on the block right now .
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Post by trotfan on Jun 27, 2016 18:51:33 GMT -5
Erod is so lost ..we messed up another sure thing ace.
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Post by huskies15 on Jun 27, 2016 18:54:58 GMT -5
Erod is so lost ..we messed up another sure thing ace. The knee injury was very unfortunate considering this was a big year for his development
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Post by bosox on Jun 27, 2016 18:55:06 GMT -5
Snakebit - couldn't have rolled that ball any better down the third base line.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 27, 2016 18:55:11 GMT -5
Adjusting for SoS, the Sox still have the 4th best set of hitting and pitching stats in MLB, after the Cubs, Cardinals, and Nationals (a month ago they were second to the Cubs). They've managed to turn that into a tie for 13th in winning percentage. It's .614 vs. .533. A lot of the panic comes from judging them by the W/L record rather than the underlying performance, which is much more predictive. If you project the rest of the season using a 90 / 10 split between the two rates, they finish 4 games ahead of the O's, against a neutral schedule. They have a 13 game lead on the Mariners for the second W/C spot, using the same projection; however, the Mariners will end up with a schedule 2 or 3 games easier. Whether the managerial difference will wipe out the 4 game expected edge they have on the O's is a good question. One counter would be continued better pitching from the #4 spot in the rotation from E-Rod. There's more to it than that. The favorable stats you mention were built up in April and May. This has been a bad BB team for about four weeks now. They've scored 111 runs in June and given up 128. And consider that the team BABIP in June is .305, or about normal. But the BABIP against is .281. The pitching staff may be worse than it has looked in June because it has benefited from slight BABIP luck.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 27, 2016 18:55:47 GMT -5
The starting lineup has 5 guys hitting below the Mendoza line.....WTF!?!?
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Post by bosox on Jun 27, 2016 18:56:08 GMT -5
Pedroia giving Erod some ship.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 27, 2016 18:57:19 GMT -5
our SP is fine because WS winners have had worse ones than us.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 27, 2016 18:58:19 GMT -5
Adjusting for SoS, the Sox still have the 4th best set of hitting and pitching stats in MLB, after the Cubs, Cardinals, and Nationals (a month ago they were second to the Cubs). They've managed to turn that into a tie for 13th in winning percentage. It's .614 vs. .533. A lot of the panic comes from judging them by the W/L record rather than the underlying performance, which is much more predictive. If you project the rest of the season using a 90 / 10 split between the two rates, they finish 4 games ahead of the O's, against a neutral schedule. They have a 13 game lead on the Mariners for the second W/C spot, using the same projection; however, the Mariners will end up with a schedule 2 or 3 games easier. Whether the managerial difference will wipe out the 4 game expected edge they have on the O's is a good question. One counter would be continued better pitching from the #4 spot in the rotation from E-Rod. There's more to it than that. The favorable stats you mention were built up in April and May. This has been a bad BB team for about four weeks now. They've scored 111 runs in June and given up 128. And consider that the team BABIP in June is .305, or about normal. But the BABIP against is .281. The pitching staff may be worse than it has looked in June because it has benefited from slight BABIP luck. Share that with Eric he's in deep denial.
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Post by jmei on Jun 27, 2016 19:04:16 GMT -5
Adjusting for SoS, the Sox still have the 4th best set of hitting and pitching stats in MLB, after the Cubs, Cardinals, and Nationals (a month ago they were second to the Cubs). They've managed to turn that into a tie for 13th in winning percentage. It's .614 vs. .533. A lot of the panic comes from judging them by the W/L record rather than the underlying performance, which is much more predictive. If you project the rest of the season using a 90 / 10 split between the two rates, they finish 4 games ahead of the O's, against a neutral schedule. They have a 13 game lead on the Mariners for the second W/C spot, using the same projection; however, the Mariners will end up with a schedule 2 or 3 games easier. Whether the managerial difference will wipe out the 4 game expected edge they have on the O's is a good question. One counter would be continued better pitching from the #4 spot in the rotation from E-Rod. There's more to it than that. The favorable stats you mention were built up in April and May. This has been a bad BB team for about four weeks now. They've scored 111 runs in June and given up 128. And consider that the team BABIP in June is .305, or about normal. But the BABIP against is .281. The pitching staff may be worse than it has looked in June because it has benefited from slight BABIP luck. They've given up a lot of home runs in June. When you hit a lot of home runs, it is often the case that you have a lower BABIP than usual, because all of your hard-hit balls went over the fence rather than being hits in play.
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Post by telluricrook on Jun 27, 2016 19:05:09 GMT -5
Mookie Make them pay for their mistakes.
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Post by atzar on Jun 27, 2016 19:05:26 GMT -5
I appreciate the fact that Marco Hernandez runs hard down the line. It has earned him two hits (that I recall) since he was brought up.
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Post by bosox on Jun 27, 2016 19:07:29 GMT -5
I appreciate the fact that Marco Hernandez runs hard down the line. It has earned him two hits (that I recall) since he was brought up. Hopefully, he never loses that drive.
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