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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 22:37:17 GMT -5
Wright seems to have put his July woes behind him. The Sox could really benefit from some more stability in the rotation.
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Post by bosox81 on Aug 5, 2016 22:38:39 GMT -5
What happened to Pedroia? I'm putting my kids in bed and can't listen in. Fouled a pitch off his shin. Finished his AB, then was taken out the next half-inning.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 22:39:02 GMT -5
What happened to Pedroia? I'm putting my kids in bed and can't listen in. He fouled a ball off his shin. Shin bruise. Day to day for Pedrioa.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 22:39:43 GMT -5
Nomar was just pretty special in general. We will never see a RHB ever like him again. I think he might have one of the best averages in MLB history for a RHB in the year he hit .372 Yes, sir...had to go back to Joe D 1939, off of a quick review, to have a RHB hit higher...and none, since. www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtmlAhh yes. I knew it. Thanks for confirming.
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Post by pasadenasox on Aug 5, 2016 22:41:39 GMT -5
Thanks guys, Gameday wasn't clear on what was going on.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 22:41:48 GMT -5
Wright seems to have put his July woes behind him. The Sox could really benefit from some more stability in the rotation. Wright has been pitching in a lot of tough elements lately with extreme heat or wet weather. We all know the deal if he's pitching in humidity or rain. I think his July was more of a product of that. 72 degrees in California today (comfortable)and Wright is cruising. That's not a coincidence.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 5, 2016 22:48:05 GMT -5
Why does NESN still allow Steve Lyons to do the commentary? He says some mind numbingly stupid things.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 22:55:07 GMT -5
Wright seems to have put his July woes behind him. The Sox could really benefit from some more stability in the rotation. Wright has been pitching in a lot of tough elements lately with extreme heat or wet weather. We all know the deal if he's pitching in humidity or rain. I think his July was more of a product of that. 72 degrees in California today (comfortable)and Wright is cruising. That's not a coincidence. I tend to agree with you on that. Theoretically, he should be helped by late Sept/Oct when it's cooler (air's more dense, increasing force on the knuckler) and dry, too. I still have hope that Price goes back to being himself, and that Porcello keeps up his consistently very good pitching. I'm also pretty confident that Rodriguez is going to keep getting better. When Pomeranz is your weak link, you're OK. Hoping the Sox get some sort of compensation for the Padres' medical records obfuscation shadiness.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 22:56:38 GMT -5
Why is Brentz even on this roster still? Farrell and Dombrowski are just a terrible combo. oh you mean the guy who started us off last night with a double? that guy. Not every player on the Sox will be a 30 homer 100 rbi player. We are so spoiled we complain about a guy finally getting his chance. let the guy get some at-bats jesus.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 23:01:18 GMT -5
Wright has been pitching in a lot of tough elements lately with extreme heat or wet weather. We all know the deal if he's pitching in humidity or rain. I think his July was more of a product of that. 72 degrees in California today (comfortable)and Wright is cruising. That's not a coincidence. I tend to agree with you on that. Theoretically, he should be helped by late Sept/Oct when it's cooler (air's more dense, increasing force on the knuckler) and dry, too. I still have hope that Price goes back to being himself, and that Porcello keeps up his consistently very good pitching. I'm also pretty confident that Rodriguez is going to keep getting better. When Pomeranz is your weak link, you're OK. Hoping the Sox get some sort of compensation for the Padres' medical records obfuscation shadiness. The Sox get back Espinoza and we'll give them Basabe as a trade-off for cheating the medicals.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 23:02:04 GMT -5
I love seeing Wright in cruise control. It's a thing of beauty.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 23:04:58 GMT -5
Wright has been pitching in a lot of tough elements lately with extreme heat or wet weather. We all know the deal if he's pitching in humidity or rain. I think his July was more of a product of that. 72 degrees in California today (comfortable)and Wright is cruising. That's not a coincidence. I tend to agree with you on that. Theoretically, he should be helped by late Sept/Oct when it's cooler (air's more dense, increasing force on the knuckler) and dry, too. I still have hope that Price goes back to being himself, and that Porcello keeps up his consistently very good pitching. I'm also pretty confident that Rodriguez is going to keep getting better. When Pomeranz is your weak link, you're OK. Hoping the Sox get some sort of compensation for the Padres' medical records obfuscation shadiness. in his last 3 starts Price has been himself so no worries there. Porcello has pitching great since the 2nd half of last season. Wright has been great to say the least. Pretty confident about Rodriguez for what reason? Pomeranz will get comfortable and be just fine the man just got traded and a lot of weight added to his shoulders he needs to settle in.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:07:07 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you on that. Theoretically, he should be helped by late Sept/Oct when it's cooler (air's more dense, increasing force on the knuckler) and dry, too. I still have hope that Price goes back to being himself, and that Porcello keeps up his consistently very good pitching. I'm also pretty confident that Rodriguez is going to keep getting better. When Pomeranz is your weak link, you're OK. Hoping the Sox get some sort of compensation for the Padres' medical records obfuscation shadiness. The Sox get back Espinoza and we'll give them Basabe as a trade-off for cheating the medicals. I was thinking Trey Ball...another LH who nibbles, doesn't go deep, and walks too many guys.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 23:09:27 GMT -5
Omg did anyone see that knuckle ball to strike out Turner?
That was a screwball on steroids.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 23:10:19 GMT -5
The Sox get back Espinoza and we'll give them Basabe as a trade-off for cheating the medicals. I was thinking Trey Ball...another LH who nibbles, doesn't go deep, and walks too many guys. Yeah even better. I don't see much becoming of this story however. The Sox won't get anything back I bet.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 5, 2016 23:10:29 GMT -5
I was thinking Trey Ball...another LH who nibbles, doesn't go deep, and walks too many guys. Did you just kind of sort of compare Trey Ball to Drew Pomeranz? Trade me to the Padres please.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:10:30 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you on that. Theoretically, he should be helped by late Sept/Oct when it's cooler (air's more dense, increasing force on the knuckler) and dry, too. I still have hope that Price goes back to being himself, and that Porcello keeps up his consistently very good pitching. I'm also pretty confident that Rodriguez is going to keep getting better. When Pomeranz is your weak link, you're OK. Hoping the Sox get some sort of compensation for the Padres' medical records obfuscation shadiness. in his last 3 starts Price has been himself so no worries there. Porcello has pitching great since the 2nd half of last season. Wright has been great to say the least. Pretty confident about Rodriguez for what reason? Pomeranz will get comfortable and be just fine the man just got traded and a lot of weight added to his shoulders he needs to settle in. Because: 1) Rodriguez has gotten consistently better since coming back 2) From a severe injury, which requires roughly 4-6 months to fully recover from (which is exactly where he's at) 3) His velocity is close to where he sat last year 4) He was a borderline low-end #2 starter last year, and he's a year older, with more experience 5) He should be relatively "fresh," since he missed significant time earlier this year.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:13:08 GMT -5
I was thinking Trey Ball...another LH who nibbles, doesn't go deep, and walks too many guys. Did you just kind of sort of compare Trey Ball to Drew Pomeranz? Trade me to the Padres please. Hey, they were only picked two spots apart in the first round. Pomeranz has been atrocious in Boston. I hope he gets better, and I have a feeling he will, but he's still a 5-inning pitcher who walks too many guys and is extremely inefficient.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 23:14:32 GMT -5
in his last 3 starts Price has been himself so no worries there. Porcello has pitching great since the 2nd half of last season. Wright has been great to say the least. Pretty confident about Rodriguez for what reason? Pomeranz will get comfortable and be just fine the man just got traded and a lot of weight added to his shoulders he needs to settle in. Because: 1) Rodriguez has gotten consistently better since coming back 2) From a severe injury, which requires roughly 4-6 months to fully recover from (which is exactly where he's at) 3) His velocity is close to where he sat last year 4) He was a borderline low-end #2 starter last year, and he's a year older, with more experience 5) He should be relatively "fresh," since he missed significant time earlier this year. very good points. I didn't realize that his velocity is anywhere near what it was last year. Number 2 starter is pushing it. Maybe on last years rotation lol. Also agree with the fresh arm. You forgot to mention he somehow ended up on the commercial with Papi and Price!!
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 5, 2016 23:20:03 GMT -5
Hey, they were only picked two spots apart in the first round. Pomeranz has been atrocious in Boston. I hope he gets better, and I have a feeling he will, but he's still a 5-inning pitcher who walks too many guys and is extremely inefficient. Pomeranz was a 3 WAR pitcher in San Diego and Trey Ball sucks. Regardless of how disappointing he might have been in his 4 first starts, he's already been a much better pitcher than Ball will ever be.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:21:03 GMT -5
Because: 1) Rodriguez has gotten consistently better since coming back 2) From a severe injury, which requires roughly 4-6 months to fully recover from (which is exactly where he's at) 3) His velocity is close to where he sat last year 4) He was a borderline low-end #2 starter last year, and he's a year older, with more experience 5) He should be relatively "fresh," since he missed significant time earlier this year. very good points. I didn't realize that his velocity is anywhere near what it was last year. Number 2 starter is pushing it. Maybe on last years rotation lol. Also agree with the fresh arm. You forgot to mention he somehow ended up on the commercial with Papi and Price!! #2 starter based on his performance last year, which put him right around the 2/3 border based on eligible starters (those with similar or greater IP). I think he's eminently capable of being a #2 this year; his velocity this year is slightly down, but since those data include the whole MLB season, including his immediate post-injury starts, it's basically negligible: www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=593958
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:23:34 GMT -5
Hey, they were only picked two spots apart in the first round. Pomeranz has been atrocious in Boston. I hope he gets better, and I have a feeling he will, but he's still a 5-inning pitcher who walks too many guys and is extremely inefficient. Pomeranz was a 3 WAR pitcher in San Diego and Trey Ball sucks. Regardless of how disappointing he might have been in his 4 first starts, he's already been a much better pitcher than Ball will ever be. Dude, it was an egregiously outlandish comparison made in jest. If you're taking it as s genuine comparison, you might want to recalibrate your "facetious" meter. Get some perspective. Settle down, Beavis.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 23:24:03 GMT -5
Did you just kind of sort of compare Trey Ball to Drew Pomeranz? Trade me to the Padres please. Hey, they were only picked two spots apart in the first round. Pomeranz has been atrocious in Boston. I hope he gets better, and I have a feeling he will, but he's still a 5-inning pitcher who walks too many guys and is extremely inefficient. Not many Pitchers traded mid-season are dominant with there second club. You have to understand pitching is an art. You need to be comfortable. You need to be in sync with the catcher. This probably is another reason Price had a ruff start. We are sporting below avg catchers and they are being demoted and hurt and none of them are consistent everyday starters. We are giving are staff no time to gell with one and feel comfortable. Not just making excuses being a former pitcher i know how much of a routine and how important being comfortable is. I think another 5 starts and he will get into his grove. That curveball is a thing of beauty. I just don't want to see Hannigan EVER catching it again.
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Post by nomar on Aug 5, 2016 23:24:24 GMT -5
Sandy HR is huge. We need him to stay relatively warm.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 5, 2016 23:25:32 GMT -5
This red sox team has a shot at the playoffs. Erod and Pomeranz 4 and 5, in which ever order you like is a heck of a lot better than erod and buchholz. I would prefer to never see buchholz start another game in a red sox uniform, sadly he is probably first in line should an injury occur. Even worse there's a very good chance that at some point from here until the end of season/playoffs there will be a need for buchholz to start. End of story I'd rather just keep Pomeranz than complain about this deal anymore.
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