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8/5-8/7 Red Sox @ Dodgers Series Thread
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Post by bluechip on Aug 5, 2016 23:27:17 GMT -5
Nice hit by Sandy. Terrible terrible base running by Bradley there.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 5, 2016 23:28:58 GMT -5
Why isn't Farrell play Benintendi playing left right now? Farrell is a complete joke.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 5, 2016 23:32:26 GMT -5
Pinch hitting holt instead of benintendi... ugh come on farrell.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:32:34 GMT -5
Hey, they were only picked two spots apart in the first round. Pomeranz has been atrocious in Boston. I hope he gets better, and I have a feeling he will, but he's still a 5-inning pitcher who walks too many guys and is extremely inefficient. Not many Pitchers traded mid-season are dominant with there second club. You have to understand pitching is an art. You need to be comfortable. You need to be in sync with the catcher. This probably is another reason Price had a ruff start. We are sporting below avg catchers and they are being demoted and hurt and none of them are consistent everyday starters. We are giving are staff no time to gell with one and feel comfortable. Not just making excuses being a former pitcher i know how much of a routine and how important being comfortable is. I think another 5 starts and he will get into his grove. That curveball is a thing of beauty. I just don't want to see Hannigan EVER catching it again. That's why I said I thought he'd get better. I highly doubt he pitches like he did for the first half, though, at least for any extended stretch. The walks, extra pitches, less foul territory, smaller parks, better hitters, added DH, etc in the AL (East especially) mean even fewer innings, more hits, walks coming back to hurt him (especially on HR). He should be a marginally better version of Wade Miley: high-3 ERA, averaging 5.5 IP/GS, still around 9-10K/9, 3.5-4 BB/9. FWIW, Porcello struggled off the bat, too...although that was clearly 4-seam overuse-related. Regardless, like I said, if Pomeranz is your #5, your team's in good shape. Wright is back to looking like a 1a, which is nice.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 5, 2016 23:34:48 GMT -5
Dude, it was an egregiously outlandish comparison made in jest. If you're taking it as s genuine comparison, you might want to recalibrate your "facetious" meter. Get some perspective. Settle down, Beavis. I can't.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 5, 2016 23:35:10 GMT -5
Not many Pitchers traded mid-season are dominant with there second club. You have to understand pitching is an art. You need to be comfortable. You need to be in sync with the catcher. This probably is another reason Price had a ruff start. We are sporting below avg catchers and they are being demoted and hurt and none of them are consistent everyday starters. We are giving are staff no time to gell with one and feel comfortable. Not just making excuses being a former pitcher i know how much of a routine and how important being comfortable is. I think another 5 starts and he will get into his grove. That curveball is a thing of beauty. I just don't want to see Hannigan EVER catching it again. That's why I said I thought he'd get better. I highly doubt he pitches like he did for the first half, though, at least for any extended stretch. The walks, extra pitches, less foul territory, smaller parks, better hitters, added DH, etc in the AL (East especially) mean even fewer innings, more hits, walks coming back to hurt him (especially on HR). He should be a marginally better version of Wade Miley: high-3 ERA, averaging 5.5 IP/GS, still around 9-10K/9, 3.5-4 BB/9. FWIW, Porcello struggled off the bat, too...although that was clearly 4-seam overuse-related. Regardless, like I said, if Pomeranz is your #5, your team's in good shape. Wright is back to looking like a 1a, which is nice. I really wish the sox would have kept miley, then again it's easy to say right now since smith needed tj surgery. Looking past that, it would have been a lot better move in my mind to get wade miley instead of pomeranz. In my mind they give you basically same thing and miley cost a lot less than pomeranz.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 23:35:45 GMT -5
Not many Pitchers traded mid-season are dominant with there second club. You have to understand pitching is an art. You need to be comfortable. You need to be in sync with the catcher. This probably is another reason Price had a ruff start. We are sporting below avg catchers and they are being demoted and hurt and none of them are consistent everyday starters. We are giving are staff no time to gell with one and feel comfortable. Not just making excuses being a former pitcher i know how much of a routine and how important being comfortable is. I think another 5 starts and he will get into his grove. That curveball is a thing of beauty. I just don't want to see Hannigan EVER catching it again. That's why I said I thought he'd get better. I highly doubt he pitches like he did for the first half, though, at least for any extended stretch. The walks, extra pitches, less foul territory, smaller parks, better hitters, added DH, etc in the AL (East especially) mean even fewer innings, more hits, walks coming back to hurt him (especially on HR). He should be a marginally better version of Wade Miley: high-3 ERA, averaging 5.5 IP/GS, still around 9-10K/9, 3.5-4 BB/9. FWIW, Porcello struggled off the bat, too...although that was clearly 4-seam overuse-related. Regardless, like I said, if Pomeranz is your #5, your team's in good shape. Wright is back to looking like a 1a, which is nice. Wright Price Porcello is a nice 1-2-3 in the playoffs!!!! Righty lefty Righty
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:36:38 GMT -5
Dude, it was an egregiously outlandish comparison made in jest. If you're taking it as s genuine comparison, you might want to recalibrate your "facetious" meter. Get some perspective. Settle down, Beavis. I can't. Well-played, sir. Well-played.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 23:37:39 GMT -5
That's why I said I thought he'd get better. I highly doubt he pitches like he did for the first half, though, at least for any extended stretch. The walks, extra pitches, less foul territory, smaller parks, better hitters, added DH, etc in the AL (East especially) mean even fewer innings, more hits, walks coming back to hurt him (especially on HR). He should be a marginally better version of Wade Miley: high-3 ERA, averaging 5.5 IP/GS, still around 9-10K/9, 3.5-4 BB/9. FWIW, Porcello struggled off the bat, too...although that was clearly 4-seam overuse-related. Regardless, like I said, if Pomeranz is your #5, your team's in good shape. Wright is back to looking like a 1a, which is nice. I really wish the sox would have kept miley, then again it's easy to say right now since smith needed tj surgery. Looking past that, it would have been a lot better move in my mind to get wade miley instead of pomeranz. In my mind they give you basically same thing and miley cost a lot less than pomeranz. Pomeranz has pitched a few game god almighty. Miley was TRASH!!!!
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 5, 2016 23:38:42 GMT -5
9-0 Buchholz can pitch now lol
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:39:17 GMT -5
That's why I said I thought he'd get better. I highly doubt he pitches like he did for the first half, though, at least for any extended stretch. The walks, extra pitches, less foul territory, smaller parks, better hitters, added DH, etc in the AL (East especially) mean even fewer innings, more hits, walks coming back to hurt him (especially on HR). He should be a marginally better version of Wade Miley: high-3 ERA, averaging 5.5 IP/GS, still around 9-10K/9, 3.5-4 BB/9. FWIW, Porcello struggled off the bat, too...although that was clearly 4-seam overuse-related. Regardless, like I said, if Pomeranz is your #5, your team's in good shape. Wright is back to looking like a 1a, which is nice. Wright Price Porcello is a nice 1-2-3 in the playoffs!!!! Righty lefty Righty Yeah, sure is. With Rodriguez as the 4? And Pomeranz out of the 'pen (with his relief experience)? Just gotta get there. They sure look like a playoff team tonight.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 5, 2016 23:39:46 GMT -5
That's why I said I thought he'd get better. I highly doubt he pitches like he did for the first half, though, at least for any extended stretch. The walks, extra pitches, less foul territory, smaller parks, better hitters, added DH, etc in the AL (East especially) mean even fewer innings, more hits, walks coming back to hurt him (especially on HR). He should be a marginally better version of Wade Miley: high-3 ERA, averaging 5.5 IP/GS, still around 9-10K/9, 3.5-4 BB/9. FWIW, Porcello struggled off the bat, too...although that was clearly 4-seam overuse-related. Regardless, like I said, if Pomeranz is your #5, your team's in good shape. Wright is back to looking like a 1a, which is nice. I really wish the sox would have kept miley, then again it's easy to say right now since smith needed tj surgery. Looking past that, it would have been a lot better move in my mind to get wade miley instead of pomeranz. In my mind they give you basically same thing and miley cost a lot less than pomeranz. Pomeranz is is more effective than Miley. Hopefully Carson Smith comes back strong next year. I was excited about Smith until the injury happened, and I'm still really intrigued by his future 4 years in the organization past this year.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Aug 5, 2016 23:40:07 GMT -5
If Steven Wright pitched in Southern California he would win the Cy Young.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 5, 2016 23:41:03 GMT -5
I'm still laughing at that.
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Post by bosox81 on Aug 5, 2016 23:44:39 GMT -5
What a lift by Wright going eight strong innings after the bullpen was used up the previous night. Exactly what your "ace" is supposed to do.
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Post by bosox81 on Aug 5, 2016 23:45:47 GMT -5
I really wish the sox would have kept miley, then again it's easy to say right now since smith needed tj surgery. Looking past that, it would have been a lot better move in my mind to get wade miley instead of pomeranz. In my mind they give you basically same thing and miley cost a lot less than pomeranz. Pomeranz has pitched a few game god almighty. Miley was TRASH!!!! Miley was not trash. I'll be happy if Pomeranz pitches as well as Miley did last season for the Sox.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 6, 2016 0:00:12 GMT -5
Pomeranz has pitched a few game god almighty. Miley was TRASH!!!! Miley was not trash. I'll be happy if Pomeranz pitches as well as Miley did last season for the Sox. Well, Miley was pretty mediocre, but he was reliable. I'll say again, a slightly to moderately better Miley isn't worth Espinoza to me, but it's pretty good nonetheless. And if he's truly the #5, that's a helluva rotation. Especially if *this* is the real Steven Wright.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 6, 2016 0:02:27 GMT -5
Awesome ShO for Wright. What a revelation this year. And the offense looked pretty good, even without Ortiz.
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Post by bosox81 on Aug 6, 2016 0:04:38 GMT -5
Miley was not trash. I'll be happy if Pomeranz pitches as well as Miley did last season for the Sox. Well, Miley was pretty mediocre, but he was reliable. I'll say again, a slightly to moderately better Miley isn't worth Espinoza to me, but it's pretty good nonetheless. And if he's truly the #5, that's a helluva rotation. Especially if *this* is the real Steven Wright. He pitched almost 200 innings of low 4 ERA. That's very valuable. Of course, I'll be disappointed if the return for Espinoza is no better than Miley, but given how Pomeranz has pitched for the Sox so far, I'll be ecstatic if he gives us Miley production.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 6, 2016 0:05:10 GMT -5
I really wish the sox would have kept miley, then again it's easy to say right now since smith needed tj surgery. Looking past that, it would have been a lot better move in my mind to get wade miley instead of pomeranz. In my mind they give you basically same thing and miley cost a lot less than pomeranz. Pomeranz has pitched a few game god almighty. Miley was TRASH!!!! Miley was far from "trash." 4.46 ERA, 4.08 xfip, 3.81 fip. Those are solid numbers from a backend starter. Very solid.
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Post by atzar on Aug 6, 2016 0:06:59 GMT -5
Terrific effort from Wright. A bit surprised he went back out for the ninth, but certainly happy with the result. Bullpen will need as many easy nights as possible this month.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 6, 2016 0:10:25 GMT -5
Terrific effort from Wright. A bit surprised he went back out for the ninth, but certainly happy with the result. Bullpen will need as many easy nights as possible this month. Its nice to see several starters going deep. A fresh 'pen down the stretch could be a difference-maker.
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Post by bosox81 on Aug 6, 2016 0:12:02 GMT -5
I loved Farrell letting Wright finish the game.
Also, good job by the ump ruling that Pederson did not attempt to get out of the way on the hit by pitch. He was clearly trying to get hit with it.
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 6, 2016 0:23:39 GMT -5
Why does NESN still allow Steve Lyons to do the commentary? He says some mind numbingly stupid things. It has been a boring road trip. Im sure he would like to flip out and swear like we have all road trip but he cant do that stuff.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 6, 2016 0:23:58 GMT -5
Nice to see Stephen Wright turning in a great performance after a couple mediocre starts.
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