Boston Celtics 2016-17 Season Discussion

It was too high because Danny literally said he wouldn't trade any assets to get a to be free agent.  We have no idea what it would have taken because Danny didn't get involved.  Do you think Ross is some great player? He's never had even a league average PER. We could have got him.


We could have went out and got someone to address a glaring need, but we didn't with a massive amount of assets. Now we're about to lose in first round again!

Well the Magic aren't the Nuggets for example, they have a ton of needs. It's amazing how little talent they have after so many lottery picks. In this draft for example there isn't a huge difference between the type of players they will get with Raptors pick and the second round pick we have. Though the Magic do already have two high second rounders.

I'm not sure solid is the word I would use for Ross, more like OK. He's 25 and is what he is. An ok defender that can shoot the 3, but he does nothing else. His weight is really low for a SF, which shows in his well below average rebounding numbers. I really think he's a backup SG, nothing more.

I would have offered Rozier, Young, our second this year and the future Memphis that comes from Clippers. That's three second round picks in reality. Maybe they don't take it, but Danny never even had back and forth discussion with them, so we will never know. Maybe they would have liked to move assets into another year while still being able to bring in 4 rookies next year.

Here's the thing if that's too much or they won't take it. You can get another player. You can't argue he couldn't get a rebounding big to help this team. What drives me crazy is the we aren't trading any future assets for to be free agent. Well those are the only players you can get without​ messing with our cap space. So he basically said we aren't getting anyone. That doesn't upset people? Every deadline show said the same thing, they were very surprised Danny didn't make even a smaller move to get some rebounding help. It was such a glaring need!

No I'm not upset by it. Would I have welcomed it? Surely, but not even close to being upset. The only thing that would have upset me is hurting the future for a marginal upgrade.

I don't necessarily think what you are proposing is crazy, but I think those Memphis and Clippers picks in a couple years could be key to getting that veteran for a team that's actually in position to make a real run. It's not about needing to draft another player but teams dealing vets to contenders want first rd picks that next year in return. Right or wrong they do because most don't have job security to do it the right way. So I'd rather have that Memphis pick in a couple years to use when it has way more value than use it now. Or use it as part of a trade for a better player.

One little trade on its own won't deplete the assets we have but one trade - plus a big one changes things big time and now what do we have left once we have that contending team? Sure we still have our picks to trade but we also don't want to be the Cavs.

Rondo is injured - broken thumb - that's a huge development

I thought that the story from New York was that at the trade dealline all of the Celtics coaches were all for getting Carmelo nut Danny Ainge had other plans. 

Well I wouldn't have traded the true Memphis pick, just the one from Memphis that comes from Clippers.  That one is lottery protected and then converts to second round picks.  It's most likely a late first, but if for some reason Griffin and Paul bolt, you could get second round picks.  The true Memphis pick has lottery protections that decrease year after year and could turn into something great.  Memphis is getting old, players like Allen and Randolph.  Also a player like Parsons while talented is always injured.  I can see that team being bad down the road.

As to trades making us the Cavs it's just not going to happen.  For one Danny was adding players like Powe, Big Baby, Bradley and Sullinger while we had the big 3.  Second one big trade and let's say the Ibaka trade weren't going to Wipeout all our young talent and picks.  Not even close, that's how many young players and picks we have, it's crazy.  Third Ibaka would seem like a good player to spend our money on to replace Johnson if we can't get a Griffin or Hayward.  After those two who is better on the free agent market that fits our needs?

As to teams wanting a first rounder that year.  This year's draft is sizing up like last year's draft if most of the declared players stay it.  The difference from pick #24 to pick #36 in talent is not that different and certainly not big enough to turn down another first round pick in 2019.  Just look at last year with players like Zubac and Brogdon.  Two of the better rookies can from the second round.

I got a call today from an online sports book that I haven't used in like 5 years and they told me I have $860 in my account... whoops... might lay it all on the Celtics tonight with Rondo out

Ya right! Nobody would ever forget about $860.00. Just admit that you just want to bet on the Celtics. Anyway Jimmy Butler will just handle the ball more and go for 45 points. Crowder has no chance guarding him he is way to slow Bradley is way to small and Jaylen is way to overeactive.

I wouldn't worry about him being a bad influence on developing players.  He's not Cousins, he's a good guy.  I mean he's really just like Thomas with his D.  Playing on this team would help him in my opinion.  He wouldn't have to try and carry the team every game, every night.  Add a rebounding defensive big to Melo and you would have a heck of a team while the young guys develop.

As to what I would trade, not a ton.  The article mentioned Crowder, which I might do if it's Crowder and not much more.  You get Melo to help you for the next 2-3 years, then have Brown take over.  I would start lower though, as Crowder would be my final take it or leave it offer.  They want to move him and he's only going to be willing to go to a few teams.  So you should get a good deal.

I agree with this - he only has two years left on his deal and gives them another guy who can create his offense, which they desperately need. If they can get him for peanuts, why not?

Maybe instead of experimenting with Gerald Green as a starter, Brad shouldn't have crushed Jaylen's confidence with a couple weeks in the season to go.

This team is breathtakingly soft.