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Post by jimed14 on Dec 6, 2016 15:59:03 GMT -5
I would seriously start looking into selling a starter for prospects then signing Turner depending on the cost. He'd be a big lift for the team over the next couple of years now than Moncada is gone. They're not going to have Turner and Pablo on the same roster.
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Post by nomar on Dec 6, 2016 16:01:00 GMT -5
I would seriously start looking into selling a starter for prospects then signing Turner depending on the cost. He'd be a big lift for the team over the next couple of years now than Moncada is gone. They're not going to have Turner and Pablo on the same roster. Turner is pretty versatile defensively. Came in as a 2B, and would probably be able to pick up 1B too.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 6, 2016 16:39:17 GMT -5
I would seriously start looking into selling a starter for prospects then signing Turner depending on the cost. He'd be a big lift for the team over the next couple of years now than Moncada is gone. Isn't there just one starter past the big 3 that is going to help keep them down on costs? Buck at 13.5M otherwise they don't save any money.
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 6, 2016 17:21:05 GMT -5
@jcrasnick: There's some strong Mitch Moreland-to-the-#redsox buzz in the lobby at the winter meetings hotel.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 6, 2016 17:29:50 GMT -5
Actually, I would call the Nats and see what they give for ERod. Just to see, of course...(COUGH COUGH).
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 6, 2016 17:33:16 GMT -5
'Who is the ace?' will be more interesting this spring than 2 years ago. I'm also quite excited about Joe Kelly next year. I really think that their only need is a RHH 3B who is decent defensively so Pablo has a platoon partner. There is zero need for Moreland.
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Post by preston on Dec 6, 2016 17:36:56 GMT -5
What are the major priorities now? I think corner infield depth and the DH are glaring.
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Post by manfred on Dec 6, 2016 17:54:26 GMT -5
I would be really happy with Moreland. Won a Gold Glove, lefty, probably not overly expensive. That is the type of signing I can go for. Truthfully, I am ready to get it started -- I think the team is pretty much done. I assume Panda is penciled in at 3rd, so no reason really to discuss that. So 1b/DH pairing with Hanley is the only real open spot. I think provided people develop or stay the same, they can survive the loss of Ortiz -- especially with what better be sick rotation.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 6, 2016 18:03:37 GMT -5
I would be really happy with Moreland. Won a Gold Glove, lefty, probably not overly expensive. That is the type of signing I can go for. Truthfully, I am ready to get it started -- I think the team is pretty much done. I assume Panda is penciled in at 3rd, so no reason really to discuss that. So 1b/DH pairing with Hanley is the only real open spot. I think provided people develop or stay the same, they can survive the loss of Ortiz -- especially with what better be sick rotation. Looks like you got your wish.
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 6, 2016 18:05:28 GMT -5
'Who is the ace?' will be more interesting this spring than 2 years ago. I'm also quite excited about Joe Kelly next year. I really think that their only need is a RHH 3B who is decent defensively so Pablo has a platoon partner. There is zero need for Moreland. I agree, I don't see the Moreland fit and I'm with you I think a RHH platoon type of 3rd baseman makes a lot more sense. A RHH Corner infielder that can play 3rd base reasonably would give them some security to platoon with Holt in case Pablo is the same Pablo we saw two years ago. Edit: Scratch this post, I see now they signed Moreland.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Dec 6, 2016 18:11:29 GMT -5
'Who is the ace?' will be more interesting this spring than 2 years ago. I'm also quite excited about Joe Kelly next year. I really think that their only need is a RHH 3B who is decent defensively so Pablo has a platoon partner. There is zero need for Moreland. I agree, I don't see the Moreland fit and I'm with you I think a RHH platoon type of 3rd baseman makes a lot more sense. A RHH Corner infielder that can play 3rd base reasonably would give them some security to platoon with Holt in case Pablo is the same Pablo we saw two years ago. Edit: Scratch this post, I see now they signed Moreland. These 2 things aren't mutually exclusively. Moreland plus a RHH IF like Hwang or Plouffe would push Hernandez to the AAA/MLB shuttle - and since the Red Sox need the depth, this would be perfect. (ideally the RHH IFer would be a strong defensive 3B)
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Post by preston on Dec 6, 2016 18:25:42 GMT -5
So with the Moreland signing it appears the Sox will roll with a platoon at DH (Hanley, Moreland, Young). That'll take some getting used to after the decade + of Ortiz. I'm hoping DD gets a rhh 3b depth player, like others have said, and calls it an off season. I can't see them trading away what's left of the system. Perhaps it would be nice to trade an excess arm to shore up higher level minor depth and get a lower level lotto ticket.
The Sale trade is extremely bitter sweet but ownership is getting exactly what they wanted, so they must be over the moon
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Post by ramireja on Dec 6, 2016 18:35:39 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this....but in DD's brief tenure, he has basically traded away 17 prospects that on their own resemble a top 17 from a top 10 or so system. Thats crazy to me. No need to nitpick specific spots where these guys would rank, I'm just trying to get it close:
1. Yoan Moncada 2. Anderson Espinoza 3. Manual Margot 4. Michel Kopech 5. Luis Alexander Basabe 6. Mauricio Dubon 7. Logan Allen 8. Carlos Asuaje 9. Javier Guerra 10. Pat Light 11. Josh Pennington 12. Luis Alejandro Basabe 13. Victor Diaz 14. Aaron Wilkerson 15. Jonathon Aro 16. Jose Almonte 17. Wendell Rijo
I suppose 10-17 would be pretty weak relative to other systems, but the top 4 compete with top systems, and the top 8-9 would be very solid.
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Post by preston on Dec 6, 2016 18:40:35 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this....but in DD's brief tenure, he has basically traded away 16 prospects that on their own resemble a top 16 from a top 10 or so system. Thats crazy to me. No need to nitpick specific spots where these guys would rank, I'm just trying to get it close: 1. Yoan Moncada 2. Anderson Espinoza 3. Manual Margot 4. Michel Kopech 5. Luis Alexander Basabe 6. Mauricio Dubon 7. Logan Allen 8. Carlos Asuaje 9. Javier Guerra 10. Josh Pennington 11. Luis Alejandro Basabe 12. Victor Diaz 13. Aaron Wilkerson 14. Jonathon Aro 15. Jose Almonte 16. Wendell Rijo I suppose 10-16 would be pretty weak relative to other systems, but the top 4 compete with top systems, and the top 8-9 would be very solid. Hopefully the all star game in 2022 isn't a plethora of former Boston org. guys.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 6, 2016 18:49:37 GMT -5
Now that the Sox have done most of their shopping, this is what I'd like to see them do-
-Option Eduardo Rodriguez to AAA if every starter is healthy out of spring training (limit his innings) -Trade Clay Buchholz for depth and clear his salary to get under the luxury tax threshold -Use Moreland against RHP at first base and Hanley at first base against LHP with Chris Young at DH against LHP (put in Moreland defensively for Hanley late in games with a lead)
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Post by bannedfromsosh on Dec 6, 2016 19:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Dec 6, 2016 20:14:31 GMT -5
Buchholz for Danny Valencia and a lottery ticket prospect would make sense for both teams.
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Post by bannedfromsosh on Dec 6, 2016 20:28:58 GMT -5
My god😳😳😳 my boy sale to Btown? You guys got me thinking 🤔? - David Ortiz on Instagram 30 minutes ago
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2016 20:43:01 GMT -5
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Dec 6, 2016 20:44:31 GMT -5
My god😳😳😳 my boy sale to Btown? You guys got me thinking 🤔? - David Ortiz on Instagram 30 minutes ago I definitely would not complain
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Post by greatscottcooper on Dec 6, 2016 20:57:24 GMT -5
Mine as well trade Devers now so DD could have traded away every other top 10 prospect.
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Post by bannedfromsosh on Dec 6, 2016 20:59:06 GMT -5
Mine as well trade Devers now so DD could have traded away every other top 10 prospect. Mine as well! Bone apple tea!
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Post by telluricrook on Dec 6, 2016 21:01:28 GMT -5
I love the fact that it's his decision.
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Post by bannedfromsosh on Dec 6, 2016 21:03:23 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this....but in DD's brief tenure, he has basically traded away 17 prospects that on their own resemble a top 17 from a top 10 or so system. Thats crazy to me. No need to nitpick specific spots where these guys would rank, I'm just trying to get it close: 1. Yoan Moncada 2. Anderson Espinoza 3. Manual Margot 4. Michel Kopech 5. Luis Alexander Basabe 6. Mauricio Dubon 7. Logan Allen 8. Carlos Asuaje 9. Javier Guerra 10. Pat Light 11. Josh Pennington 12. Luis Alejandro Basabe 13. Victor Diaz 14. Aaron Wilkerson 15. Jonathon Aro 16. Jose Almonte 17. Wendell Rijo I suppose 10-17 would be pretty weak relative to other systems, but the top 4 compete with top systems, and the top 8-9 would be very solid. I'd feel really bad about this if we didn't have the best rotation in baseball, one of the best closers, the best young outfield, and a championship caliber team. I mean, we had all these guys in back to back last place seasons. Wanna turn back the clock?
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Post by kingofthetrill on Dec 6, 2016 21:07:33 GMT -5
Part of me wants to not sign a top free agent so that we can keep a first rounder which we desperately need, and part of me wants to sign EE considering that we have 3, possibly 4 lefties in our starting rotation and I want to keep EE out of the division.
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