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Where are they now?: The former Sox thread
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Post by keninten on May 10, 2024 16:26:50 GMT -5
What would this team's record be?
C- Christian Vazquez 1B- Justin Turner 2B- Yu Chang 3B- Luis Urias SS- Xander Bogaerts LF- Adam Duvall
CF- Mookie Betts RF- Alex Versugo
DH- JD Martinez
SP1- Sale SP2- Eovaldi SP3- ERodriguez SP4- Paxton
SP5- Springs SP6- Wacha SP7- Martin Perez
BP- Pressly, Schreiber, Strahm, Ottavino, Strickland, Ryan Fernandez, Joe Kelly
I believe their payroll would be just under the LTT.
I like this year`s team much better.
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Post by TearsIn04 on May 10, 2024 16:47:20 GMT -5
What would this team's record be?
C- Christian Vazquez 1B- Justin Turner 2B- Yu Chang 3B- Luis Urias SS- Xander Bogaerts LF- Adam Duvall
CF- Mookie Betts RF- Alex Versugo
DH- JD Martinez
SP1- Sale SP2- Eovaldi SP3- ERodriguez SP4- Paxton
SP5- Springs SP6- Wacha SP7- Martin Perez
BP- Pressly, Schreiber, Strahm, Ottavino, Strickland, Ryan Fernandez, Joe Kelly
I believe their payroll would be just under the LTT.
I like this year`s team much better. That team might go .500 just because it has Mookie Betts, who's on pace for 12.8 B-Ref WAR. That would surpass the top position player WAR of the integration era. That was Yaz in '67 putting up 12.4! Verdugo and Sale are each on pace for 4. It's also not realistic to assume that a team would go into a season with Yu Chang as its starting 2B, especially a team with resources, which a team would have to have to be close to the LTT.
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Post by incandenza on May 10, 2024 17:20:39 GMT -5
For what it's worth, the ex-Sox are out-WARing the current Sox so far. But that's a little bit cheaty because the ex-Sox don't have a bench and the current Sox' bench has contributed like -2.5 wins. (To be clear, the current Sox are in *much* better shape for the long term than this ex-Sox team would be.)
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 14, 2024 14:00:25 GMT -5
For what it's worth, the ex-Sox are out-WARing the current Sox so far. But that's a little bit cheaty because the ex-Sox don't have a bench and the current Sox' bench has contributed like -2.5 wins. (To be clear, the current Sox are in *much* better shape for the long term than this ex-Sox team would be.) Yes, what is the average age of the ex-Red Sox… they are all like 150 years old each….lol….with an average team control of 2 seconds….lol
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Post by insanesoxfan on May 15, 2024 16:58:50 GMT -5
Former Red Sox 2019 draft pick, Jordan Beck, hit his first home run in the big leagues today. He’s one of the Rockies top 5 prospects and is definitely the most well regarded prospect we picked that year, just too bad we didn’t sign him. The guys we did sign in the 2019 draft have not turned out really at all, but I digress.
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Post by threeifbaerga on May 18, 2024 8:40:56 GMT -5
Went to see the local independent league team last night, the Tri-City Valley Cats, and caught Tyreque Reed playing for the opposition. Hit 23 home runs for Sox affiliates in '21 and '22.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 18, 2024 11:14:07 GMT -5
Went to see the local independent league team last night, the Tri-City Valley Cats, and caught Tyreque Reed playing for the opposition. Hit 23 home runs for Sox affiliates in '21 and '22. Nice! Where are you located? I'm just outside Albany, to the southwest. Didn't know there were any other Capital District peeps on here. Haven't been see Tri-City since they were Short-Season A-Ball and the cub scouts' had an overnight camping event in the outfield after the game (against Lowell) and watched a baseball movie on one of the screens before going to sleep. My son was in 1st grade then (7th now).
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Post by threeifbaerga on May 18, 2024 19:06:13 GMT -5
Went to see the local independent league team last night, the Tri-City Valley Cats, and caught Tyreque Reed playing for the opposition. Hit 23 home runs for Sox affiliates in '21 and '22. Nice! Where are you located? I'm just outside Albany, to the southwest. Didn't know there were any other Capital District peeps on here. Haven't been see Tri-City since they were Short-Season A-Ball and the cub scouts' had an overnight camping event in the outfield after the game (against Lowell) and watched a baseball movie on one of the screens before going to sleep. My son was in 1st grade then (7th now). We're in Troy, just bought a house. Great city. The Gatos aren't much but they're our home town 9 so I want to support them. The Joe is a fun spot to catch a game. Maybe we could meet up for a game some time!
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Post by greenmonster on May 20, 2024 13:13:52 GMT -5
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 20, 2024 13:32:26 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on May 20, 2024 13:52:32 GMT -5
disgusting stuff, not what I was expecting to see when I opened the thread. Enjoy prison Austin
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Post by julyanmorley on May 20, 2024 14:00:01 GMT -5
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Post by rhswanzey on May 20, 2024 14:36:25 GMT -5
The Brewers have promoted Bradley Blalock (traded for Luis Urias last summer) from AA. He began his season with 17 straight scoreless innings before coming back to Earth. Overall this season, he’s 3-1 in 7 starts with a 2.27 ERA in 35.2ip. 30 H, 3 HR, 7 BB, 29 K. It looks like he’ll be used in relief.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 22, 2024 8:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by greenmonster on May 22, 2024 16:21:06 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on May 22, 2024 16:33:29 GMT -5
Bummer.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on May 24, 2024 9:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by patford on May 24, 2024 10:13:07 GMT -5
Even his "big" comeback year was underwhelming and only played up because the National Media (read L.A. and N.Y.) hates Boston.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 24, 2024 10:27:39 GMT -5
Statcast has him -6 runs in LF. You need to stink up the joint on both ends to make a run at history.
It seems like he's getting real unlucky at the plate and is merely a bad hitter at this point instead of the worst hitter in baseball
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 24, 2024 11:58:26 GMT -5
For all the posts and hand ringing about the loss of Thaddeus Ward, he is in the Nationals system at AAA, and the ERA 6.55, WHIP 1.83, 27 walks, in 34.1 innings. I think loosing him to Rule 5 was a non-issue.
Drohan, Ryan Fernandez, and others the jury is still out, but you can not keep them all. Jacques was kept possibly instead of some others, but was on the top of the ‘DFA list’ as soon as a spot was needed. Sometimes I think the potential Rule 5 players are slightly higher valued than the last couple spots on the 40-man in that, if they are picked, they may be returned if the picking team can not keep them on the 26-man the full season whereas the 39 and 40 spots are future DFAs. Just saw Erasmo got a DFA from the Rays…. Saw that coming from 3000 miles away. How many DFAs has he had in his career? Jacques was called up to fill a couple innings and let go. I think at this point the Red Sox bullpen has enough quality that there may be a lot fewer of these fill ins needed, but there are certainly spots at the end of the 40-man that most of the 2024 Rule 5s, that are worthy, will be kept. There will inevitably be some Rule 5s plucked from the system in November, and someone will question why they were not kept. Again it is only a 40-man list and all the worthy prospects can not be kept.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 24, 2024 13:41:11 GMT -5
For all the posts and hand ringing about the loss of Thaddeus Ward, he is in the Nationals system at AAA, and the ERA 6.55, WHIP 1.83, 27 walks, in 34.1 innings. I think loosing him to Rule 5 was a non-issue. Drohan, Ryan Fernandez, and others the jury is still out, but you can not keep them all. Jacques was kept possibly instead of some others, but was on the top of the ‘DFA list’ as soon as a spot was needed. Sometimes I think the potential Rule 5 players are slightly higher valued than the last couple spots on the 40-man in that, if they are picked, they may be returned if the picking team can not keep them on the 26-man the full season whereas the 39 and 40 spots are future DFAs. Just saw Erasmo got a DFA from the Rays…. Saw that coming from 3000 miles away. How many DFAs has he had in his career? Jacques was called up to fill a couple innings and let go. I think at this point the Red Sox bullpen has enough quality that there may be a lot fewer of these fill ins needed, but there are certainly spots at the end of the 40-man that most of the 2024 Rule 5s, that are worthy, will be kept. There will inevitably be some Rule 5s plucked from the system in November, and someone will question why they were not kept. Again it is only a 40-man list and all the worthy prospects can not be kept. I mean, right now would you rather have Bailey Horn/Uwasawa or one or both of those two is the question. Presented without an opinion there. Just saying, it's easy. As for Ward, prospects have present day value. Losing a guy in rule 5 happens but when guys like Raimel Tapia were on the opening day 40-man roster, I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have had Ward then. I guess Tapia winds up being someone else on the active roster, but in another example, does David Hamilton get drafted last year? Did Kaleb Ort need to make the team over someone else like Walter to keep Whitlock's seat warm?
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Post by julyanmorley on May 24, 2024 14:28:39 GMT -5
For all the posts and hand ringing about the loss of Thaddeus Ward, he is in the Nationals system at AAA, and the ERA 6.55, WHIP 1.83, 27 walks, in 34.1 innings. I think loosing him to Rule 5 was a non-issue. Drohan, Ryan Fernandez, and others the jury is still out, but you can not keep them all. Jacques was kept possibly instead of some others, but was on the top of the ‘DFA list’ as soon as a spot was needed. Sometimes I think the potential Rule 5 players are slightly higher valued than the last couple spots on the 40-man in that, if they are picked, they may be returned if the picking team can not keep them on the 26-man the full season whereas the 39 and 40 spots are future DFAs. Just saw Erasmo got a DFA from the Rays…. Saw that coming from 3000 miles away. How many DFAs has he had in his career? Jacques was called up to fill a couple innings and let go. I think at this point the Red Sox bullpen has enough quality that there may be a lot fewer of these fill ins needed, but there are certainly spots at the end of the 40-man that most of the 2024 Rule 5s, that are worthy, will be kept. There will inevitably be some Rule 5s plucked from the system in November, and someone will question why they were not kept. Again it is only a 40-man list and all the worthy prospects can not be kept. I mean, right now would you rather have Bailey Horn/Uwasawa or one or both of those two is the question. You need to clear a lower bar to make the back end of the 40 during the season than to have them commit to carrying you all offseason. Walter, Mata and Jacques were the borderline pitchers they kept all offseason. At the time they had to make a decision on Fernandez, they probably anticipated adding two or three more major league pitchers than they actually did, which would've forced more guys off the 40.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 24, 2024 14:49:18 GMT -5
At the time they had to make a decision on Fernandez, they probably anticipated adding two or three more major league pitchers than they actually did, which would've forced more guys off the 40. Did they though? You're not wrong on the timing piece, for sure, but I think that's part of planning and executing on that plan.
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Post by asm18 on May 24, 2024 17:37:36 GMT -5
The Mariners optioned grand slam merchant Luis Urias to Triple A today.
The Brewers actually called up Bradley Blalock (who the Sox traded for Luis Urias last summer) for a hot second this week but he was just sent back down without making his MLB debut.
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Post by geostorm on May 24, 2024 19:23:55 GMT -5
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