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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2017 0:40:49 GMT -5
Paul Goldschmidt wouldn't put them over the lux tax and he's not a rental. We could swing it with a lot of pieces like CVaz+. I mention CVaz because the Diamondbacks attempted to trade for him this past offseason.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 17, 2017 1:26:59 GMT -5
Paul Goldschmidt wouldn't put them over the lux tax and he's not a rental. We could swing it with a lot of pieces like CVaz+. I mention CVaz because the Diamondbacks attempted to trade for him this past offseason. Arizona won't trade him while they are in good position for a playoff spot. He would be the perfect fit though. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2017 1:54:01 GMT -5
Paul Goldschmidt wouldn't put them over the lux tax and he's not a rental. We could swing it with a lot of pieces like CVaz+. I mention CVaz because the Diamondbacks attempted to trade for him this past offseason. Arizona won't trade him while they are in good position for a playoff spot. He would be the perfect fit though. Agreed. I hadn't noticed their wildcard position. I knew they were way behind the Doggers in the West. They must have some decent management going on there. |
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Post by mobaz on Jul 17, 2017 7:21:45 GMT -5
Arizona won't trade him while they are in good position for a playoff spot. He would be the perfect fit though. Agreed. I hadn't noticed their wildcard position. I knew they were way behind the Doggers in the West. They must have some decent management going on there. If only we could get a manager like that (cue Bob Lobel) |
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 17, 2017 12:14:51 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Jul 17, 2017 12:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 17, 2017 12:21:19 GMT -5
Just proves you don't have to know anything about baseball to write about it. I can't even think of an adjective describing how stupid that trade would be. |
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Post by nomar on Jul 17, 2017 12:21:19 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 17, 2017 12:22:18 GMT -5
That trade had better not happen or I may have to join the Dombrowski doom and gloom crew.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2017 12:22:27 GMT -5
That's Nightengale's prediction and, as I read it, not reporting. I wouldn't read too much into it. EDIT: Literally yesterday Nightengale said Frazier would only get the White Sox a "fringe prospect." The addition of Robertson wouldn't swing the return THIS much. He's just wildly speculating. He probably looked at the list on MLBPipeline (that's where the numbers appear to come from) and picked two guys, the #2 prospect who has been hurt most of the year and the kid at #9 who has good numbers. |
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Post by ianrs on Jul 17, 2017 12:32:22 GMT -5
I doubt that rumor has much substance, but I really don't understand why you trade for Frazier when you have a guy like Devers waiting. I understand the 3B depth is thin, and you never want to rely on a 20 year old who just wrapped up AA time, but it still seems a little silly.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 17, 2017 12:39:29 GMT -5
Most recent trades for rentals have a surprisingly high cost. I don't believe the low cost in the Frazier rumors until it's done. I hope if Frazier is acquired, DDo is actually using the threat of standing pat with Devers to bring the cost down.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 17, 2017 12:40:36 GMT -5
I doubt that rumor has much substance, but I really don't understand why you trade for Frazier when you have a guy like Devers waiting. I understand the 3B depth is thin, and you never want to rely on a 20 year old who just wrapped up AA time, but it still seems a little silly. I think trading for Frazier makes a lot of sense depending on what is being shipped out from the Sox. If it is a fringe prospect then I think it would be worth it, however if it is any prospect in the top 15 or so I would not be happy as a Sox fan. I don't think Frazier will be a big difference maker and would just be a good addition to try and stabilize 3rd base to allow Devers some more seasoning in the minors. |
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Post by doctorduck21 on Jul 17, 2017 12:48:36 GMT -5
I doubt that rumor has much substance, but I really don't understand why you trade for Frazier when you have a guy like Devers waiting. I understand the 3B depth is thin, and you never want to rely on a 20 year old who just wrapped up AA time, but it still seems a little silly. The reason to trade for Frazier is what if Devers comes up and struggles like Moncada did last year. Without trading for Frazier, if that happens, we're looking at starting Marrero in the playoffs and that's not something I want to see |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 17, 2017 12:51:20 GMT -5
Another thing to consider is that Frazier also happens to be better than Mitch Moreland.
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Post by manfred on Jul 17, 2017 13:13:19 GMT -5
I have to believe Frazier can be had for two decent lower level prospects. The flip side of this is that the White Sox are just going to let him go in the off season, and there aren't many teams with interest. And while calling up Devers is not all all preferable, he does at least give the Bosox just a smidge more leverage.
If Chisox ask for two top-10 prospects for the addition of Robertson, that would be a big pass. There are going to be available arms. For groome+, I'd have been looking for Sonny Gray and Madsen (before Nats trade).
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 17, 2017 13:28:10 GMT -5
That's Nightengale's prediction and, as I read it, not reporting. I wouldn't read too much into it. EDIT: Literally yesterday Nightengale said Frazier would only get the White Sox a "fringe prospect." The addition of Robertson wouldn't swing the return THIS much. He's just wildly speculating. He probably looked at the list on MLBPipeline (that's where the numbers appear to come from) and picked two guys, the #2 prospect who has been hurt most of the year and the kid at #9 who has good numbers. And he wasn't even predicting Robertson coming here, but instead they take Kahnle. This is just WAY over the top and completely baseless. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2017 13:36:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't even do that for Moose let alone Frazier.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 17, 2017 13:41:18 GMT -5
Agree. I started a "What could you get for Groome straight up" thread in the trade subforum because I fear Dombrowski will deal him, but I think we'd all agree it'd have to be more than this.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2017 13:48:37 GMT -5
Peter GammonsVerified account @pgammo 6m6 minutes ago
Still strange that as of this afternoon the A's still haven't had a call on Jed Lowrie
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Post by Guidas on Jul 17, 2017 14:08:00 GMT -5
Paul Goldschmidt wouldn't put them over the lux tax and he's not a rental. We could swing it with a lot of pieces like CVaz+. I mention CVaz because the Diamondbacks attempted to trade for him this past offseason. You'd have to start with Devers and Groome for Goldschmidt. All Star with an affordable deal. And as people have mentioned, they are in the WC hunt. |
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Post by gtownsoxfan on Jul 17, 2017 14:08:09 GMT -5
@lakins_travis
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1:08 PM - 17 Jul 2017
This was just tweeted by Travis Lakins. He is on the DL right now for Portland. Could it be related to a trade?
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Post by manfred on Jul 17, 2017 14:14:30 GMT -5
Chatham and Lakins would be a package I could live easily with.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 17, 2017 14:20:39 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 17, 2017 14:30:51 GMT -5
Chatham and Lakins would be a package I could live easily with. Not sure about that. Both guys are arguably top ten prospects. Definitely not for just Frazier and it would be hard to convince me to part with both of them for Robertson too. |
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