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Post by manfred on Jul 17, 2017 14:36:59 GMT -5
Chatham and Lakins would be a package I could live easily with. Not sure about that. Both guys are arguably top ten prospects. Definitely not for just Frazier and it would be hard to convince me to part with both of them for Robertson too. I suppose the question is can those two be part of a bigger package. But I figure the Sox should be good with X at SS for a while, Lakins is probably a reliever, and this is a 2-year window they have to take advantage of. I'm not a huge Frazier fan, but this team has to get more power. |
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Post by Guidas on Jul 17, 2017 14:42:53 GMT -5
Chatham and Lakins would be a package I could live easily with. Not sure about that. Both guys are arguably top ten prospects. Definitely not for just Frazier and it would be hard to convince me to part with both of them for Robertson too. Both are listed as on the DL. Chatham has upside, but it's a legitimate question whether either reaches MLB. I would have no problem for Robertson, and very little for Fraizer. If Dombrowski got both for this price he'd be up for GM of the year. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2017 15:25:14 GMT -5
@lakins_travis Can't wait to see what the future holds 1:08 PM - 17 Jul 2017 This was just tweeted by Travis Lakins. He is on the DL right now for Portland. Could it be related to a trade? I'd be very surprised if Lakins were moved. His injury is a forearm injury and last I heard was that he might have been heading down to Florida for rehab/treatment on it. I'd think that'd scare away a potential suitor until he's back pitching again, but who knows? |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 17, 2017 17:54:16 GMT -5
The only way I'd do that deal is if Jose Abreau was thrown in the deal, with Moreland going back the other way. That'd be a lot more fair imo. |
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 17, 2017 18:00:14 GMT -5
The only way I'd do that deal is if Jose Abreau was thrown in the deal, with Moreland going back the other way. That'd be a lot more fair imo. This is not happening. I don't believe it for one second. Throw them a B prospect and take on his salary. That's it. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 17, 2017 18:04:18 GMT -5
This is the exact same thing as if I went on the Twitter, posted "I think the White Sox would trade Robertson for Sandoval" and then watching whitesoxprospects.com discuss it as a legitimate rumor.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 17, 2017 18:20:19 GMT -5
The only way I'd do that deal is if Jose Abreau was thrown in the deal, with Moreland going back the other way. That'd be a lot more fair imo. This is not happening. I don't believe it for one second. Throw them a B prospect and take on his salary. That's it. I know, just trade chatter fun. Either way if that scenario happened, I'd want their best offensive player, not a average 3rd base rental and a good reliever. |
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Post by basbal24 on Jul 17, 2017 18:21:41 GMT -5
to the royals to mostaktas & hosmer for that package
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 17, 2017 18:47:56 GMT -5
This is the exact same thing as if I went on the Twitter, posted "I think the White Sox would trade Robertson for Sandoval" and then watching whitesoxprospects.com discuss it as a legitimate rumor. You joke, but when I first joined I legit thought that there was a (team)prospects.com site for every team. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 17, 2017 19:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Jul 17, 2017 19:20:32 GMT -5
This I am in on. He's one of the few rentals I'd consider giving up Chavis+ for. No chance I'd consider Groome though, and I would think other teams will be involved. I won't get excited until someone besides BN reports it. |
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 17, 2017 19:21:39 GMT -5
That guy is all over the map. He is worse than a New England weather forecaster. |
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Post by giatree12 on Jul 17, 2017 19:36:37 GMT -5
That guy is all over the map. He is worse than a New England weather forecaster. The standard has been set by Chris Mortensen. |
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Post by mredsox89 on Jul 17, 2017 19:44:24 GMT -5
Trading deadline and free agency have become "throw anything possible at a wall and hope it sticks and you're first," even more so than ever before. There's no downside for any of these people by being wrong, so long as they don't say anything official
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2017 20:52:00 GMT -5
Gentle reminder to folks to please try to link to the original article rather than the aggregator. Let's give the reporter and his employer some clicks.
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Post by sparkygian on Jul 17, 2017 22:39:03 GMT -5
What would it take to get that Kopech guy from the White Sox, for bullpen help?
Seriously though, what I'm hoping the Sox do, is in a totally different direction from the third base rental market that's out there. To me the market is weak, and that's why I'm not feeling at all like Frazier is the answer. To me, he's like a Mitch Moreland type of offensive player, with a noticeable difference in batting average. Moreland carried the team for a month or so at the beginning of the season, but since then he hasn't really done a whole lot of damage with his bat. I feel like Frazier is that same type of bat, but with a lower OBP. Especially when Devers could be possibly taking over the position in September, or possibly sooner. What I would like to see the Sox do, is package whatever prospects they were planning on giving up for Frazier, and add any other blue-chip prospect, along with someone like a B. Johnson, or Wright, or M. Hernandez, or Brentz, to get a true offensive force at first base. Let Lin and Marrero keep the hot-corner seat warm until Devers comes up. Does Frazier make anyone really feel like that makes the difference towards a championship team. Especially if he's a two month rental? Does anyone really think that either he, or Devers can be counted on during the playoffs to be a true, consistent power bat?
I think we have a very strong foundation for a championship team. We have a very strong rotation. With Kelly gone, I do think we need pitching depth in the bullpen, although it would seem that some combination of Pomeranz, or Rodriguez, or maybe Porcello will be forced into the bullpen to help out, during the playoffs.
The defense and running game is very solid. There's a lot of good hitters already on this team. Bringing in a true, longer-term than rental, power bat at first base, and with Devers, makes me think of a solid championship team.
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Post by slam761 on Jul 17, 2017 22:41:24 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what people think we would do with J.D. Martinez. We'd obviously want to keep him the hell away from the outfield, and Hanley can't do anything but DH, so how would we even get Martinez into the lineup?
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Post by radiohix on Jul 17, 2017 23:05:33 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what people think we would do with J.D. Martinez. We'd obviously want to keep him the hell away from the outfield, and Hanley can't do anything but DH, so how would we even get Martinez into the lineup? hanley's takes Travis' role. It's a win-win: - Travis gets regular ABs in AAA. - You limit Hanley's PAs for that 2019 vesting option  |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 18, 2017 7:18:26 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what people think we would do with J.D. Martinez. We'd obviously want to keep him the hell away from the outfield, and Hanley can't do anything but DH, so how would we even get Martinez into the lineup? What would we do with Willie McGee? |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 18, 2017 7:38:23 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what people think we would do with J.D. Martinez. We'd obviously want to keep him the hell away from the outfield, and Hanley can't do anything but DH, so how would we even get Martinez into the lineup? hanley's takes Travis' role. It's a win-win: - Travis gets regular ABs in AAA. - You limit Hanley's PAs for that 2019 vesting option I'm sorry to say that has a 0% chance of happening. Their best and only bet is for Hanley to start hitting. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 18, 2017 11:51:22 GMT -5
Prado to the DL with a knee sprain. Gotta figure that takes him out of the running as an option (thankfully).
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 18, 2017 13:26:34 GMT -5
Prado to the DL with a knee sprain. Gotta figure that takes him out of the running as an option (thankfully). A source close to the SOX told me they may try and sign Nick Punto for 3B |
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 18, 2017 13:31:00 GMT -5
Dang! There goes our pipeline!!
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Post by Guidas on Jul 18, 2017 13:39:30 GMT -5
I have come to the conclusion that if this team wants a "real bat" and they don't want to trade Devers, they'll likely have to trade one of ERod or Pomeranz (probably the latter) to get it - which means it likely wouldn't be a one-year rental. I don't know if Dave D. goes there, but I can't see who else moves given what's left in the minors. I still think Groome may be a possible piece in a deal, but I don't think he gets you what you want/need on his own.
Unlike Gammo and Bob Nightingale, I won't say I'm attributing this to a "source." Just trying to read the landscape.
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Post by huskies15 on Jul 18, 2017 13:42:13 GMT -5
Frazier's wRC+ the past 30 days is 136, which is better than all Red Sox not named Benintendi.
So while he might not be a savior, he is currently outproducing all our starters and would provide a bit of a boost.
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