2017 Trade Deadline Thread (Red Sox discussion)

I understand why this is unlikely to happen, but I like this more than anything else I'm seeing. Upgrade a replacement level player with a 3.5war DH who would be a top target to sign in the off-season as well. At this point Hanley isn't good enough to be a starting DH so he would be more useful as a backup and he can compete with Travis for 1B job next season (assuming they resign Martinez, who will be 30)

That's just about the ultimate in stupid predictions. Your Abreu proposal would even it out, although I still say just call up Devers.

Yeah that's what I'd do too but I just thought that was ridiculous also. I know the relieving market has gotten ridiculous in recent years but Jay Groome and Chavis for Robertson and Frazier?

Are you kidding me Bob?

You want Groome, you give me Abreau at the VERY least.

Wow Frazier has extreme Home/Away splits since going to Chicago favoring the road. Never noticed that. This year he has a 145 wRC+ on the road.

Arizona is about to trade for JD Martinez, so cross him off the list.

What a loaded lineup they have.

I really like the idea of Frazier and Robertson, but only for a fair deal. I won't overpay. There seems to be a massive amount of good relievers available, so lets hope it drives down the price.

Don't know any of the prospects heading to Detroit but if the Sox missed their chance to get a JD Martinez for what amounts to very little, then that's really dissapointing to say the least.

Here's a name I would imagine is available as a 1B/DH player: Kennys Vargas [Twins]. Never seen a player bounced between the ML and AAA so many times in my life. I think with some consistent playing time he can rack up some decent numbers....he's got big time power and should easily be a 30+ HR guy over 150+ games. (He does have 2 of the longest 10 home runs this season in the majors) He's probably not going to end up being David Ortiz but would be an inexpensive [low risk] power hitter to acquire. We need to make some move in that department, Moreland has seemingly outlived his usefulness already. (Albeit he was solid for the first couple months)


I'm also on the Todd Frazier train. Devers isn't ready for the big show yet and Frazier wouldn't cost a top prospect to acquire. Frazier hasn't been great this season, but he is a power bat and might improve his numbers playing half his games at Fenway (his #s have been AWFUL at Guaranteed Rate Field this year)....not to mention he's not a liability at 3B defensively. Ideally I would like to trade for Mike Moustakas but pretty sure he won't be traded because the Royals seem to believe they are in contention. 

How much can you compare Martinez and Frazier in terms of trade value? Sure, Martinez rates as a terrible outfielder now, but he's also running a WRC+ 59 points higher than Frazier. He's also been worth .6 more war, despite playing 24 less games and have about 100 less plate appearances.

I can't see how the White Sox can expect anything close to what the Diamondbacks just got.

Edit: I missed my point, which was that I think this trade doesn't impact Frazier's value at all. He's worth less than Martinez, so it may make him slightly more affordable, but I don't think by much, if at all.

Here we go....

Possibly in the minority, but I want no part of Robertson and his 13,000,000 salary next year. Just deal the low level prospects for Frazier and search elsewhere for bullpen help.

Plenty of better rental options, headlined by Yusmeiro Petit and Neshek.

I look at it like his big salary will lower the cost, which for a team like us makes sense. He's also proven to be able to pitch in AL East.