2017 Trade Deadline Thread (Red Sox discussion)

I don't think 3b can be just a place to get decent defense. They have mediocre offense, to put it kindly, from the catching tandem, a 1b who has stopped hitting, or is hitting like he normally does or is feeling the effects of his toe issue, whichever it is, a SS who isn't hitting well since he's been hit and has endured a power outage. Our DH isn't having a stellar year.

They can't afford an offense drain at 3b and have too many automatic outs in the lineup which is what they seem to have right now.

They need Devers up sooner than later, but I will say I agree that the Sox shouldn't spend too many resources getting Nunez from SF as he's not worth it. I have a feeling that if they do get Nunez, they might deal Lin for him with Dave figuring that Marco Hernandez is back next year and they won't need Lin.

I'd really hope they would trade Holt over Lin at this point but who knows how teams across the league view Holt's value with his concussions and vertigo issues.

Knock off the personal stuff. This is uncalled for. Thanks.

i mentioned this yesterday now today suggested by Ken Rosenthal : If I’m Red Sox general manager Dave Dombrowski, I’m surveying the third-base market and thinking, “Meh.”
Mike Moustakas and Josh Harrison are unavailable. Martin Prado and Yangervis Solarte are injured.
Eduardo Nunez? Asdrubal Cabrera? Yunel Escobar?
I’m doubtful Dombrowski is looking at any of them and thinking, “this is the final piece to the puzzle.”
And I’m hearing Dombrowski is mulling outside-the-box solutions, infielders at other positions who could move to third.
Reds All-Star shortstop Zack Cozart would fit that description, but I’ve got an even better suggestion:
Dombrowski’s old friend from the Tigers, second baseman Ian Kinsler.
Let’s be clear: The suggestion is mine alone. Kinsler’s name has not surfaced in trade discussions between the clubs, major-league sources say.
Besides, I’m not sure Kinsler would love the idea of changing not only teams but also positions in the middle of a pennant race. He is the game’s top defender at second, according to defensive runs saved, and some view him as an outside candidate for the Hall of Fame at the position.
It is not known if the Red Sox are on Kinsler’s 10-team no-trade list. But either way, the move would be temporary. The Sox could assure Kinsler they would decline his $10 million club option, pay him his $5 million buyout and allow him to become a free agent.

I hate Ken Rosenthal's ideas personally. I don't know why the Sox would assure to pay Kinsler 5 million in dead money just so he could waive his no trade clause.

Cozart would be okay I suppose if the cost was low.

Cozart's batted ball profile is almost identical to his 2016 profile, and he was well below average at the plate last year, yet mashing this year. He was banged up last year, but he's due for some huge regression.

The money is bigger on Kinsler's end, but he's probably a better hitter true to talent, and he's a righty flyball hitter, and the Sox are home more often than not the rest of the way. I don't see him as a perfect fit and I'm not sure how his arm is, but his prospect cost would definitely not be high at all.

Yeah I'm a big Kinsler fan myself, just don't why the Sox would ever agree to pay money for him to leave. If he came here, there would have to be no contractual reproductions to that deal. If he wants to come and be a part of a playoff race, then great. If not, then have fun losing in Detroit.

Kinsler would almost have to play first base if he came here.

For his career in 239 games at 3B he is -6 DRS.  This year in 44 games he has been -2 DRS. His DRS average over 135 games is -4, not sure what numbers you are looking at. He is not horrible at 3B.  We need offense,  so I'm more than willing to give up a little D.  Lin has been good, but we have no clue what he will do going forward.  Give me a solid Vet if the price is right.

Pedroia was moved from SS to 2B primarily because of his arm. He's not moving to 3B.

The record with Lin and Marrero at 3rd is pretty good; it's not a black hole any longer. If they do anything it should be for relief help.

Rip I think that you might be drinking the cool aid here. Do you really believe a Lin/Marrero combo is a representative 3B for a contending team? Granted, good fielding % but low cumulative BA, power and run production. IMO if Devers doesn't advance this year, we indeed have a 3B black hole in 2017.

We are also offensively weak at catcher and perhaps at 1B.

I agree that an infusion at relief would help and I would target Justin Wilson as a strikeout (where it's at) lefty. With our good starting pitching and the absence of Thornburg and the uncertainty of Smith, this acquisition would, IMO, help as much as any.