2017 Trade Deadline Thread (Red Sox discussion)

I don't know what's happened to Matt Adams but he's starting to become that power hitter most thought he would 3-4 years ago. I don't think he'd cost a ton bc Freeman will be their 1B. Adams would essentially platoon with Young now that Hanley is playing some 1B.

Kevin McAlpin @kevinmcalpin
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Matt Adams since joining the #Braves on May 21:

53 games
14 doubles
1 triple
15 homers
40 RBI

Dude's good.

Adams on paper projects to be a decent upgrade to Moreland (you'd want to look at lots more data than just his ROS projections) ... but if Moreland's decline is because of the broken toe, and that's going to be healed soon, maybe it's a sideways move.

Per my tagline, I'll leave it at that! How would Adams fit in Fenway? That's the first thing I'm not going to look up.

But it's true that 1B is the obvious place to add a bat, and it doesn't have to be a rental.

The bullpen could use a LHR capable of pitching in the 7th and 8th instead of Hembree.

If DD can upgrade those two roster spots at a fair cots, I'll be satisfied.

I'll throw a realistic big name that no one has thrown out yet and a name I'm surprised no one has named yet on the losing Marlins.

J.T. Realmuto.

I'd be okay with trading big name prospects for him (anyone not names Devers). J.T. would be this team's leading hitter in OPS while being a catcher. He is making peanuts too so the luxury tax threshold isn't a issue.

Massive upgrade over what the Sox have for at the catching position all year.

You don't need to consider it a fire sale if you're selling off pieces to get high end prospects. It's a fire sale if you sell off everything.

I can't see the Red Sox remaking the entire roster so there's no point in talking about someone replacing Hanley at this point in the season. They also aren't going to do anything with their catchers. The only possible place for a bat is replacing Moreland, but it would have to be significantly better to be worth doing. They're extremely limited by money and could use another LHP for the bullpen. I think people will be disappointed. They pretty much spent their wad when trading for Sale. There aren't many obvious fits and this deadline pretty much sucks for what is realistically available.

Another reason Dave needs to go. The man is a menace!

Mitch Moreland before and after breaking his toe on June 13.

What GdToe BdToe
PA 249 124
BA .285 .162
OBP .382 .234
SA .495 .252
wRC+ 127  24
K .229 .242
BB .124 .073
BABIP .349 .188
HR/FB .158 .100
Hard .456 .337
LD .217 .217
GB .420 .422
PU .019 .012
Pull .430 .325
Opp .253 .277
His vertical batted ball profile is unchanged, but his plate discipline has fallen off and his hardness of contact has cratered.

Trade for a new 1B and put him on the DL until he's not playing in pain. He could be a great bench piece in September. Or not, but he's not useful as a trade piece.

I totally understand all the realistic concerns about going over the cap -- therefore no big fish in a trade.  

If I wanted to go for a championship, and I mortgaged off an awful lot of the future for my team, so that it could go for it right now, building around a good young nucleus by putting the finishing pieces around it now, rather than waiting for talent to come up a YEAR OR TWO OR THREE down the line from the farm system.  I would absolutely not let a budget constraint that the league has instituted, but that the owner could afford, than I would absolutely not let that league imposed team salary limit before penalties, keep me from putting the right finishing pieces to the work that I have already done.  The work that has obviously made a huge improvement on the team, but is one final piece from completing the work.  I can't imagine that Henry would say 'no, I don't want to go over the limits by 10 million, otherwise I'll be punished by having to pay a few million more to get that championship'.  It just doesn't make sense.....for me, anyways.  Finish what you started!!  Otherwise you're looking at punting away this year, and potentially looking at future All Stars in Moncada, and Margot, etc. putting stress on why the moves were made in the first place to trade them, if it didn't result in a championship quickly.  This is DD's team, and he has put an incredible impression on this team, and farm system.  I have a hard time believing that going over a league imposed salary number would put the finishing piece that DD needs to bed, unless of course, Henry was adamant about a hard salary cap.

If a hard team salary number is the absolute mandate of this teams management. Than DD has screwed up big time. He's at the limit, and has his hands tied to finish the task, while Astros, Dodgers, etc. go over those league mandated numbers to get that championship.

Astros are closer to Bottom than top in spending at 18th.

This is not similar. The Red Sox would like to get under the luxury tax this year so that they can spend big the next 2-4 years since they won't have to spend as high on the repeat offender taxes. It's the smart way to maximize their funds long term, but they have made it clear that they would go over this year if the right deal presented itself.

If anything this is the exact opposite of the OKC situation since staying under the tax this year should allow them to extend their young star players.

Cherinton did most of the painting with Pablo and Hanley (and a few other gems). Dombrowski just did the trim work and got rid of most of the doors (prospects) that get you outof the corner.