2017 Trade Deadline Thread (Red Sox discussion)

I wouldn't count on Smith coming back. He has yet to do anything resembling a rehab. He still has injury issues. At best he'd come back in September and I tend to doubt it, and if he did, who knows how effective he would be?

They will probably need an upgrade in the pen just like they need one at 3b.

Lin and Chavis.

Smith is slated to start throwing right around this week. Unless he suffers another setback, he should be back by August.

Smith is a great pitcher when he's pitching, the Sox just have to get him back on the mound again.

idk. Chavis seems to be a heavy ask for Frazier. We're talking about maybe 3 or 4 teams that may be in play.

Let's trade for Felix Hernandez!!


(I miss those days)

I've slowly moved down the spectrum of wanting to keep Chavis (and Lin) this year.

The farm is thin and we have a solid division lead over a Yankee team who's offense is due for serious second half regression. I'm fine with adding Neshek or 3B, but I wouldn't want to give up Lin, Chavis, or even Ockimey to do it.

If we can't, then oh well. I wouldn't want to hurt the farm much more than we already have though. Chavis is just getting onto top 100 lists and while he's far from perfect, you can't teach his batspeed. He's a top 5 prospect for us now. Trading him for a stopgap with our farm hurting would just be shortsighted IMO.

In recent years our LHB always seem to explode in Portland. His stock is probably going to rise next year. Totally fair opinion of course, but I think I'd rather hold onto him.

On the flip side, Frazier is a great fit for Fenway and may be a relatively cheap extension candidate if he really does fit well here and we get Sandoval's contract off the books (in Castillo fashion).

With Devers around, Frazier would be strictly a rental. They have a 22 million dollar DH and a young 1b in Sam Travis that they like.

And as it's been covered before, the Red Sox cannot get Sandoval's contract off the books like they did with Castillo based on Panda's service time. They're stuck with his contract thru 2019 no matter what.

Would it make sense to trade Chavis for Frazier, but only if the White Sox take on Pablo's contract? He's a half-year rental who hasn't hit all that well this season, but still showing some good pop. The White Sox would be essentially buying a prospect.

Depends really on what the White Sox are being offered for him, but I think it would make some sense as they're losing Frazier after the year, they aren't likely to contend next year and wont have a lot of salary commitments through 2019. They would need to eat the full 2.5 years remaining.

Yeah, not really expecting Pablo to give the White Sox anything of value, but if they aren't contending this year or next with the limited salaries committed on their roster as they go into full rebuild mode then buying prospects would make sense.

Now, if the price is Devers that's a no-go as the Red Sox aren't a team in desperate need to shed salary. I'd kick the tires at least, but probably won't happen. Maybe they consider it for eating 60% of the contract?

I don't think the Sox would give anything resembling big money or a long-term deal to Frazier, who I think can probably get a multiple year deal playing 3b, which has been his position.

I think the Sox are going to have to go with the young kids Devers and Travis. If they want to get in on any of those free agents in the winter of 2018 and/or have money to throw at Betts, Bogaerts, Sale, or Porcello down the road, the Red Sox need to have some cheap young talent who won't see a big payday for awhile.

Unless the Sox try to get a star for 1b, I think Travis will be the 1b in 2018 and whether it's in August or May next year Devers should finally resolve the long-standing 3b issue for the Red Sox.

They don't need Frazier to block him or platoon with him. Devers will be an everyday player.

However, in 2017, Frazier is a perfect fit for the Red Sox, but despite the fact that he has money left to pay on his contract, I don't think the Red Sox get him for a song.

The Yankees have a lot of mediocrity themselves at 3b, could use the help this season, and could block the Sox from getting what they need, so I'd think the Yankees would be a possible landing spot for Frazier.

As to redsoxchamps post, I just can't see the Sox handing the keys to both Devers and Travis next year and expect both to start everyday. Platoon was a bad word to use with Devers next year, but I'm sure a right handed bat against a tough lefty to give him a rest next year wouldn't be a bad thing.

I kind of can't see Frazier getting a huge deal unless he explodes offensively to whichever team he gets traded to. He's been a good but not a great player ever since he got traded to the AL. I just don't see a big market for him.

I'd prefer a bigger bat then Frazier this off-season (like JD Martinez and convert him to first base), but I'd be okay with a cheaper Todd Frazier too. He has played both first and third base in the past.