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Post by gerry on Oct 19, 2017 14:55:00 GMT -5
Yes. Similar to a ST Media Package, though not as detailed. Lots of scouts here. I count 20+ behind home plate with radar guns, clip boards, notebooks and a few video camera. Poor guys and gals sitting in the desert sun while a decent crowd (500-600) sit in the limited shade. Yesterday I asked and got one for free in Surprise. Today paid $3.00 for it. Smart move. They create one anyways on all the teams and players, might as well over print, cover the costs, and get the news out there. BTW Guerra just smashed a line drive home run just over the right field fence. No shiny silver shoes though. We liked him for good reasons. Just didn't know much about his warts at the time. Javelinas 1-0 bottom of first. CDLG batting 8th, so will see him soon. |
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Post by gerry on Oct 19, 2017 16:01:25 GMT -5
Wow. Slugfest. Top of 5th, 6 HR and 4-5 pitchers so far. 3 HR on each side, including a lofty blast by CDLG, an easy 400' to the berm in RF. Still hoping for Buttrey or Poyner as these pitchers keep going up loud contact. CDLG also made a couple of nice plays, if routine. Bottom 5th starts 6-5 Scorpions. Also surprised a the pretty full press box, 7 in the front row, maybe 2-3 behind them. And missed another 9 scouts huddled in the last seats behind home plate in the shade. Getting ready for trade season?!?
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Post by gerry on Oct 19, 2017 17:37:59 GMT -5
Last of 9th. 2 outs. 13-7 Scottsdale. 6HR, 2 R triple. Tons of pitchers getting shelled for 28H, walks, HBP, wild pitches galore. A long, slow game in 96 degree heat. Crowds have been clearing out in droves for 2 inning. Only packed area of stadium is behind home plate with the faithful scouts and team personnel doing their jobs. Game over. CDLG did well on D, though his throws to first were all on the low side, but he made the plays. Glad to be here and hope these posts were useful. Now to drive back home on the I-10 to soCal, after picking up a really good burrito and Starbucks for the road.
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Post by iakovos11 on Oct 19, 2017 18:34:29 GMT -5
A burrito and Starbucks. That sounds like an explosive combo.
And yes, the posts were awesome and useful. Glad you were able to make it to some AFL games.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 20, 2017 15:02:29 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 20, 2017 17:58:54 GMT -5
Wow, those are probably 2 harder hit balls than anyone hit for the Red Sox all year.
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Post by Addam603 on Oct 20, 2017 22:45:19 GMT -5
Chavis 1-4 with a double and 2 RBIs-playing third base.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 21, 2017 6:29:57 GMT -5
Wow, those are probably 2 harder hit balls than anyone hit for the Red Sox all year. I'll bet that's true. Maybe the air has something to do with it as all those are high recordings over a short time but Chavis being on there is amazing considering his size. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 23, 2017 12:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 23, 2017 15:33:56 GMT -5
Chavis with his first HR of the AFL today.
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 23, 2017 15:54:06 GMT -5
Chavis with his first HR of the AFL today. ............and, playing 1B. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 23, 2017 23:58:33 GMT -5
From the Callis piece:
Chavis began working out at first base late in the season at Double-A Portland and continued to do so during instructional league. He played one game there for the Javelinas in the first two weeks of the AFL season, and some scouts wonder if he could become a second baseman along the lines of Jedd Gyorko or Dan Uggla.
"As long as I'm in the lineup, as long as I can help the team, I'm happy to play wherever they need me and wherever they want me," Chavis said. "They told me to start working at first base and I said, 'Hell, yeah.' So I've been working at first from the last two weeks of the season, worked in instructs and I'm obviously working here, going to do some games here as well. I'm excited to see how that works out." |
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Post by Addam603 on Oct 25, 2017 17:56:58 GMT -5
Owens didn’t walk anyone tonight. 0 BBs in 4 innings pitched. 63% of his pitches for strikes. Massive improvement. But also got hit harder. 5 ER off of 6 hits and a HBP. CDLG 1-3 with a triple.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2017 1:52:26 GMT -5
Part of this evaluation process now includes Statcast, which has become en vogue in recent years for its ability to provide data such as exit velocity, sprint speed, spin rate and more. The information can help fans understand, for example, exactly how a player hits a home run or what makes his curveball so effective. Major League organizations have gotten on the bandwagon in the Minors through their use of Trackman data, but the only time this type of data really becomes publicly available for prospects is during the Fall League, where Statcast measures all games that happen at Salt River's Salt River Fields at Talking Stick. That's not a huge sample, obviously, but it helps.
This edition of Toolshed dips into some of the data Statcast has found on prominent AFL prospects so far. All pitching data can be found at MLBFarm.com. The position player data isn't publicized anywhere but is kept by the folks in the MLB research and development department, so a hat tip to Daren Willman -- a must-follow on Twitter @darenw -- for sharing that info for the purposes of this story.
Michael Chavis, exit velocity: It doesn't take Statcast to tell you that a top-100 prospect who hit 31 home runs during the regular season is someone who can probably hit the ball really hard. But it certainly helps build the case. In Chavis' lone game at Salt River on Oct. 16, he posted two of the top five exit velocities measured in the Fall League this season. The hardest of the two was a 113.507 mph shot that went for a double to left field. (Only Logan Hill at 113.54 mph has hit a ball harder in Salt River.) Anything in triple digits feels impressive, but context is key here. That two-bagger would've been the fifth-hardest-hit ball in this Major League postseason, beating out anything off the bat of Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper, Kris Bryant or Carlos Correa. Of course, these players can generate power on a more consistent basis than Chavis would be able to do in the Majors right now, but it's still telling that he has the strength to be mentioned with that group, despite having played only 67 games at Double-A.
Earlier in the same game, he smacked a 111.557 mph shot to left field for a single -- the fifth-hardest ball in Salt River so far. Of all the hitters to play in Salt River during this campaign, no one else has two of the top 10 exit velocities posted, never mind two of the top five -- just in case you needed another reason to believe Chavis' bat is legit.www.milb.com/milb/news/toolshed-arizona-fall-league-lessons-from-statcast/c-259766764
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Post by gerry on Oct 28, 2017 3:00:00 GMT -5
Awesome info. Thanks. Healthy, he is all good news. Chavis continues to show he can hit, and hit for power. His defense also seems to be improving. I hope DDo doesn't trade him for anyone. We will likely need him in 2019. It would be a shame to be pummeled by Shaw, Brentz and Chavis in the coming years.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 28, 2017 4:32:36 GMT -5
If Chavis makes it to Fenway as a Sox player, he's probably going to have a lot of singles in Fenway off the wall with the way he hits line drives so hard. I'm probably just stating the obvious here though.
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Post by jmei on Oct 28, 2017 5:23:24 GMT -5
I will caution that the AFL statcast data is likely less reliable than MLB statcast data. Given the temporary nature of the AFL statcast system, very possible that there are calibration-type issues.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2017 8:56:55 GMT -5
I will caution that the AFL statcast data is likely less reliable than MLB statcast data. Given the temporary nature of the AFL statcast system, very possible that there are calibration-type issues. Even if that's true, which I doubt, they can be used comparatively to other AFL data. 2 of the top 5 is still 2 of the top 5. |
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Post by jmei on Oct 28, 2017 9:10:20 GMT -5
Yeah, don't want to take anything away from Chavis-- the continued hard contact is extremely impressive. Just doubt that he hit the ball harder than any member of the 2017 Red Sox.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2017 9:20:24 GMT -5
To me, it's unlikely that Statcast is going to have calibration issues, particularly because there are multiple angles involved and their reputation is important. The other hand says that the Sox weren't a launch angle team, Arizona is dessert and Chavis isn't facing major league pitching.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2017 9:45:39 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, I Google Earthed Talking Stick Field. It's elevation is 1300 feet. Not a lot but not nothing either. By the way, it's in Scottsdale, not Salt River. Scottdale is high dessert. It looks like a nice facility, if you have Google Earth, there's a 3D model. If you have GEarth Pro there's a street view model as well, they advertise Miller Lite.
lol, any guesses whose golden statue is next to the main concourse men's room ? Hint, he's from Tennessee.
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Post by jmei on Oct 28, 2017 10:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2017 10:20:45 GMT -5
I think we interpret that article differently. I don't see "notorious for calibration and other data quality issues". They admit to some stadium variances and some trajectory issues but it appears to me like a minor point of the article and even say: "What gets a little bit lost is while there are certainly some variations and park effects, it seems like it's actually less than it was previously with PITCHf/x," said MLB.com's Mike Petriello. "I've seen some of the articles you talk about, I do think some of the criticisms were fair, we certainly had a little bit of a bumpy transition as we were going from the old system to the new this year. But overall, I think things have really settled down. We know there are certain things the system does very well and certain things the system doesn't do as well. The goal is to be continuously improving on that." The point of that article is much more about releasing data to the public. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2017 10:41:29 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 28, 2017 13:57:14 GMT -5
What a great idea have Chavis help out at 2b and compete with Travis at 1B. I am more pumped about Chavis because of the hardship he went thru. Spring training should be pretty good.
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