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Post by jimed14 on Oct 28, 2017 14:53:19 GMT -5
So, cup of coffee for Chavis next fall?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 28, 2017 16:10:02 GMT -5
What a great idea have Chavis help out at 2b and compete with Travis at 1B. I am more pumped about Chavis because of the hardship he went thru. Spring training should be pretty good. The Sox are almost going to have to move Chavis at second base at some point imo. It just makes too much sense with Pedrioa aging. Hopefully the Sox find a taller first baseman in the future. I think it's okay to be biased with taller first baseman. |
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 28, 2017 22:06:53 GMT -5
Isn't it a little premature to start pencilling in replacements for Dusin Pedroia? I haven't read any reports that his surgery was unsuccessful and that he won't make a complete recovery from his knee condition.
Dustin is signed through 2021. As a gold glove fielder whose .298 BA this season shows he is still producing with the bat, I would suggest looking elsewhere for a place to put Chavis.
My preference is to re-sign Eduardo Nunez to start the season at 2nd, then moving him to utility IF. If his price is too exhorbitant, Marco should ready to fill the role.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 29, 2017 5:59:46 GMT -5
Isn't it a little premature to start pencilling in replacements for Dusin Pedroia? I haven't read any reports that his surgery was unsuccessful and that he won't make a complete recovery from his knee condition. Dustin is signed through 2021. As a gold glove fielder whose .298 BA this season shows he is still producing with the bat, I would suggest looking elsewhere for a place to put Chavis. My preference is to re-sign Eduardo Nunez to start the season at 2nd, then moving him to utility IF. If his price is too exhorbitant, Marco should ready to fill the role. Before the surgery and at the initial time of Pedrioa's injury, Dombrowski was quoted in saying that Pedrioa is going to have to be managed for the rest of his career playing time wise to make it through a full season. This means future playing time at a position like second base. It isn't a knock on Pedrioa, but his knee situation is what it is at this point. No one is replacing Pedrioa, he'll always have a place here somewhere through the course of his current contract. |
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 30, 2017 10:10:55 GMT -5
So, cup of coffee for Chavis next fall? They'll need to add him to the 40-man anyway, so as long as he has a decent season and there's a modicum of roster flexibility, I'd say probably. |
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Post by gerry on Oct 30, 2017 11:13:19 GMT -5
So, cup of coffee for Chavis next fall? They'll need to add him to the 40-man anyway, so as long as he has a decent season and there's a modicum of roster flexibility, I'd say probably. Would Chavis on the 40-man, along with Devers, Travis, Lin, Johnson, Taylor, et al, represent the last wave of the Ben/Theo era to make it to Fenway? Maybe not a giant wave as in 2013-2016, but still rideable. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 30, 2017 12:24:48 GMT -5
They'll need to add him to the 40-man anyway, so as long as he has a decent season and there's a modicum of roster flexibility, I'd say probably. Would Chavis on the 40-man, along with Devers, Travis, Lin, Johnson, Taylor, et al, represent the last wave of the Ben/Theo era to make it to Fenway? Maybe not a giant wave as in 2013-2016, but still rideable. Depends what your cutoff is and how you're defining that. Dombrowski came in during the 2015 season, but Cherington was still there. In 2016, almost literally everyone BUT Cherington was still underneath Dombrowski. Then Hazen took Sawdaye and Porter with him to Arizona this season, but again, everyone left behind with a key position related to amateur talent acquisition and player dev (i.e., Romero, Rikard, Crockett) was left over from the previous administration. For this reason, I don't think there's really a meaningful distinction between players acquired before or after Dombrowski's hire, or even developed. For example, Bryan Mata was technically signed a few months after Dombrowski took over... but Eddie Romero was still in charge of the international amateur scouting department, and it's not like Dombrowski had anything to do with signing him for $25k. So does it matter that it was Dombrowski or Cherington in charge? All that said, there are still plenty of guys in the system who were acquired before Dombrowski joined the org, so I guess it comes back to how you would want to define the "Ben/Theo era" - acquired? developed? |
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Post by gerry on Oct 31, 2017 1:58:09 GMT -5
Would Chavis on the 40-man, along with Devers, Travis, Lin, Johnson, Taylor, et al, represent the last wave of the Ben/Theo era to make it to Fenway? Maybe not a giant wave as in 2013-2016, but still rideable. Depends what your cutoff is and how you're defining that. Dombrowski came in during the 2015 season, but Cherington was still there. In 2016, almost literally everyone BUT Cherington was still underneath Dombrowski. Then Hazen took Sawdaye and Porter with him to Arizona this season, but again, everyone left behind with a key position related to amateur talent acquisition and player dev (i.e., Romero, Rikard, Crockett) was left over from the previous administration. For this reason, I don't think there's really a meaningful distinction between players acquired before or after Dombrowski's hire, or even developed. For example, Bryan Mata was technically signed a few months after Dombrowski took over... but Eddie Romero was still in charge of the international amateur scouting department, and it's not like Dombrowski had anything to do with signing him for $25k. So does it matter that it was Dombrowski or Cherington in charge? All that said, there are still plenty of guys in the system who were acquired before Dombrowski joined the org, so I guess it comes back to how you would want to define the "Ben/Theo era" - acquired? developed? Interesting thought exercise. Core players like the killer B's, Barnes and Basquez included, and Devers, ERod, Workman were all signed, came thru the system in some way, and we're largely developed before DDo arrived. Since DDo arrived he traded many of the "next wave" of homegrown potential stars and lesser but still bright lights in our system who are now finding success in other systems and other Major League teams. We know most of them by name, more than a baker's dozen, but will only cite talent like Shaw, Kopech and Moncada. These trades helped win two ALE Pennants. I am not complaining. But new young talent like Groome, Mata, Houck, Flores, etc., arrived after DDo did, whether or not some of the old guard, who are thankfully still around, signed these kids.. Hopefully the first DDo wave will be a beauty, but they are still developing and not imminent. I also hope the are not traded and make it to Fenway, or there will be no big homegrown first waves, just imports. So, back to my original post. This coming wave is not huge, but may or may not have Chavis, Travis, Castillo, Marrero, Lin, Brentz, Johnson, Beeks, Maddox, Taylor, Martin, Haley, Owens, Ball, etc. Swihart and Workman could belong in this wave or the last one. IMO, it's an honest question. When these guys are up or traded or released, there are not many left who were signed and largely developed by Theo/Ben. So, "signed under Ben" before DDo arrived would probably represent that last wave of the Theo/Ben era. Otherwise, because FO staff hired before DDo arrived are still scouting and signing, we could technically still be in the prior era. We are not. When DDo arrived we began the DDo-era. So far, last to first with two ALE Championships, a good beginning. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 31, 2017 10:42:50 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Oct 31, 2017 17:30:10 GMT -5
Owens with his best game in Arizona so far. 5 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, only 1 (!!!!) BB, and 2 Ks. Also, 2 HBP but I’ll take that. Potter only needed 7 pitches to get through his inning. McAvoy only 9. And Buttrey lowers his AFL ERA to 1.69 with a scoreless inning and K.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 2, 2017 22:58:26 GMT -5
Chavis, playing first base, 3/4 with a double, triple and the go ahead RBI single in the ninth. MiLB.comVerified account @milb 21m21 minutes ago No. 2 #RedSox prospect Michael Chavis finishes a homer shy of cycle and plates go-ahead run in @mlbazfallleague. atmilb.com/2h81HOx |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 3, 2017 4:56:21 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 3, 2017 18:25:27 GMT -5
MLB PipelineVerified account @mlbpipeline 7h7 hours ago 8p ET tomorrow on @mlbnetwork/@mlb.com: @mlbazfallleague Fall Stars Game. @jimcallismlb breaks down the best tools: atmlb.com/2lIK35B |
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 9, 2017 22:24:24 GMT -5
Michael Chavis with a two run HR for a walk off Javelinas win in the tenth. Bobby Poyner set it up with a blown save.
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Post by soxcentral on Nov 12, 2017 15:46:53 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 12, 2017 17:27:10 GMT -5
That's kind of an obscure reference. Some other really interesting tidbits in there such as Chavis and possibly Swihart getting reps at 2B. And Swihart also possibly getting some time at 3B. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 12, 2017 18:06:21 GMT -5
I remember Bob James. He was a big guy. I think he was a setup man with the Expos and was dealt to the White Sox, became their closer around 1985 or so and had a couple of strong seasons. If Buttrey became anything like James he'd certainly fit into the Red Sox bullpen.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 12, 2017 18:34:34 GMT -5
I remember Bob James. He was a big guy. I think he was a setup man with the Expos and was dealt to the White Sox, became their closer around 1985 or so and had a couple of strong seasons. If Buttrey became anything like James he'd certainly fit into the Red Sox bullpen. An arm like Buttrey's should fit in anywhere. Hopefully he continues to develop that command. The Sox could certainly use another taxi cab guy the next 2-3 years. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 12, 2017 22:22:38 GMT -5
That's kind of an obscure reference. Some other really interesting tidbits in there such as Chavis and possibly Swihart getting reps at 2B. And Swihart also possibly getting some time at 3B. I love Peter Gammons. I will put more stock into the Chavis and Swihart stuff when I see it reported elsewhere though. For example, Gammons reported that Swihart would get work at first and third in Pawtucket in 2015. forum.soxprospects.com/post/129487/thread |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 13, 2017 0:44:46 GMT -5
Who knows if they do that with Chavis and Swihart, I just think Gammons is passing onto us the fact they are talking about. This is the first I've heard of Swihart at 2B, but the other positions aren't new. Chavis at 2B I bet you they are talking about it. Do we think Gammons is just making stuff up?
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Post by dmaineah on Nov 13, 2017 11:56:10 GMT -5
That's kind of an obscure reference. Some other really interesting tidbits in there such as Chavis and possibly Swihart getting reps at 2B. And Swihart also possibly getting some time at 3B. It's about time. He should have been getting time there last year |
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Post by Addam603 on Nov 14, 2017 22:30:19 GMT -5
Chavis hits two HR today, his third and fourth.
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 14, 2017 23:20:55 GMT -5
Another disappointing performance today by Owens: 3IP 5ER 1k. ERA up to 8.86.
Bobby Poyner continues to pitch well.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 15, 2017 3:22:49 GMT -5
Another disappointing performance today by Owens: 3IP 5ER 1k. ERA up to 8.86. Bobby Poyner continues to pitch well. It's almost to the point where there's no reason why he deserves a 40 man roster spot anymore. He can't pitch anymore. He's bad at keeping balls in the ballpark, walking batters, giving up hits. Time to move on from Owens. Between him and Ball, I don't know which of the two were bigger busts in the system. |
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 15, 2017 8:18:54 GMT -5
Chavis hits two HR today, his third and fourth. One was an inside-the-park one after a collision. The second was a bomb. |
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