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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 24, 2017 10:49:51 GMT -5
I think with Fister we've seen enough evidence that if the ump isn't giving him the low strike he's in trouble or that he has a clear tendency to struggle early, which isn't something they can afford. Right now, Fister looks like a better option for the #4 starter, although obviously we'll know more tomorrow. There's some irony in stating a preference for Porcello over Fister based on early struggles, the day after Porcello gave up a grand slam to the fourth batter in the game. As for the quoted concern, they'll know who'll be behind home plate in each game when the series starts, and they'll know how generous each guy is with the low strike. I'm well aware Porcello pulled a Fister last outing so yes, there is some irony, but there's also the prolonged track record from this year of Fister struggling early in games. I can't actually remember the last time the guy pitched a scoreless 1st inning of the game, and that's even when he pitches his masterpieces. They will know who will be behind the plate calling the games but they don't know if Fister will still be able to hit his spots immediately without putting them into a hole to start the game. And if you think this is an impassioned plea for the Red Sox to start Porcello instead, think again. Watching Porcello has been pretty joyless this year, a lot of hard contact, the feeling of "When is he giving up the gopher ball and how many will be on base when he does?", but he does normally give the Sox innings, quantity if certainly not quality, so given that and his 2016 season the edge would probably go to Porcello as to who I think they will start. As to who they SHOULD start, that's really a coin toss for me. I don't really trust either one of them, although both are certainly capable of surprising and I'll always appreciate what Fister did for the Sox during that three week stretch when they needed a starter to step up and he answered that call. And of course I'll never forget Porcello's Adam Wainright impersonation last season.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 24, 2017 11:28:49 GMT -5
sorry I missed last night's game. What a road trip by the guys. So proud of how they have played down the stretch. Win today.....get home and keep grinding until the division is ours.
Then we can discuss playoff starters.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 24, 2017 11:32:43 GMT -5
Well, I guess I should take a long vacation more often! Yellowstone and the Tetons were indescribable (but I tried - my first brief travel blog - www.craiglehoullier.com/blog/2017/9/23/experiencing-yellowstone-national-park-and-the-grand-tetons ) I did have enough WiFi and occasional phone to at listen to a few games and watch scores. Unlike last year, we seem to be peaking/improving at just the right time - would love to all a game more separation today between the MFY and the good guys. Good to be back home...kind of (though we may never get the majesty of Yellowstone out of our heads). Later! Yo. sounds like a heckuva trip, just has a friend come go a month ago. He loved it. I gotta get out there before the long dirt nap. Welcome back!!!!
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 24, 2017 11:58:14 GMT -5
Yanks facing Marcus Stroman, last 5 starts 2.03 ERA, 2.93 FIP, 2.73 xFIP.
We're facing Jackson Stephens, 2 career starts with 8.31, 7.54, 4.21. He's allowed .308 HR/FB as a starter. For a point of comparison, Porcello this year is .144.
It might be an all-time reverse lock, but it may also end with a 5-game lead that, if simply maintained through the Blue Jays series, makes the entire Astros series nearly moot (although we'll want to keep them as the second seed).
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 24, 2017 12:20:28 GMT -5
Over/Under on number of runs Fister gives up in the first inning?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 12:58:36 GMT -5
2 hard hit balls with nothing to show for it this inning.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 13:09:37 GMT -5
Yankees down 5-0 in the 3rd inning.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 13:12:31 GMT -5
Devers!!!!
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 24, 2017 13:12:55 GMT -5
DEVERS!!!!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 24, 2017 13:20:44 GMT -5
no reason not to pinch hit for Fister there. Make it a bullpen game.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 24, 2017 13:23:19 GMT -5
no reason not to pinch hit for Fister there. Make it a bullpen game. I disagree. Fister has a low enough pitch count to lessen the burden on the bullpen, and there is/was a runner on first with one out. I'd consider myself bearish on whatever pinch hit option there was combined with Xander (who just got out) bringing in the go ahead run in the 5th, also forcing Boston to at least get 5 quality innings out of the bullpen. I think it's way too early to try for a "power move" like that.
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Post by station13 on Sept 24, 2017 13:25:45 GMT -5
It would be nice if Bogaerts and Pedroia get into a groove.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 13:32:02 GMT -5
Error on JBJ?
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 24, 2017 13:36:40 GMT -5
Yankees now down 6-1 in the bottom of the 4th and Toronto has guys on 1st and 2nd nobody out for Smoak.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 24, 2017 13:41:05 GMT -5
no reason not to pinch hit for Fister there. Make it a bullpen game. I disagree. Fister has a low enough pitch count to lessen the burden on the bullpen, and there is/was a runner on first with one out. I'd consider myself bearish on whatever pinch hit option there was combined with Xander (who just got out) bringing in the go ahead run in the 5th, also forcing Boston to at least get 5 quality innings out of the bullpen. I think it's way too early to try for a "power move" like that. This isn't a game where you need to worry about bullpen fatigue. A lot of guys haven't had much work recently. It isn't that important of a decision, but the issue is if Fister blows up, which is a possibility, your going to have to pull him anyway. We had a runner of first and a pinch hitter is a better option than Fister to get the 2nd run. We see that he did give up some runs (bad play by JBJ), and there really isn't a reason to keep him in the game at this point.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 24, 2017 13:43:49 GMT -5
9-1 Blue Jays now
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 24, 2017 13:46:12 GMT -5
This isn't a game where you need to worry about bullpen fatigue. A lot of guys haven't had much work recently. It isn't that important of a decision, but the issue is if Fister blows up, which is a possibility, your going to have to pull him anyway. We had a runner of first and a pinch hitter is a better option than Fister to get the 2nd run. We see that he did give up some runs (bad play by JBJ), and there really isn't a reason to keep him in the game at this point. My only problem with that is that the Red Sox don't have an off day before the remaining 7 games, so if you go deep into your bullpen today, it could have an effect on the remaining games. I wouldn't necessarily go all out to win this game and possibly put the team in a worse position in the remaining games. Thankfully the Yankees are getting crushed so the magic number should go down 1 anyway.
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Post by ramireja on Sept 24, 2017 14:06:02 GMT -5
Devers 10th major league HR today was also his 30th on the season (across all levels).
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 24, 2017 14:13:55 GMT -5
I'd really rather have Vazquez PHing there lol.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 24, 2017 14:48:17 GMT -5
MFY closing the gap, now would really be a great time for that elusive slam.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 14:49:18 GMT -5
The Jays pen stinks.
Mookie almost had it there.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 14:50:13 GMT -5
Lol Mookie Mookie!!!!
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 24, 2017 14:50:56 GMT -5
I'LL TAKE THAT!
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 24, 2017 14:51:58 GMT -5
Wow, crazy!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2017 14:54:01 GMT -5
Lol Mookie is sooooo good.
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