wcp3
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 19, 2017 8:18:22 GMT -5
Honestly, all the sting has been taken out of the sails for this season for me. I'll watch casually this year, catch maybe half the games (if I remember that the game is on, unlike I did tonight) but the Lakers record is all I care about until the end of the year and see where the ping pong balls land. I'll keep tabs on seeing Tatum, Brown, Smart, Rozier, and even Irving's stats. Beyond that, it is what it is this year. I agree with this, and I love what I’m seeing from Jaylen, Jayson, and Rozier. Smart looks kinda the same to me so far, but it’s only been two games. It wouldn’t shock me if the Celts don’t give him a big extension, and Rozier’s development would be a big part of it. |
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 19, 2017 8:19:11 GMT -5
The refs decided to hand Milwaukee this one. Aaaaand he's back 😂😂 To be fair, my ire is usually reserved for MLB umps. The refs last night were a travesty though. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 19, 2017 9:42:02 GMT -5
If Rozier is seen as playing the same role (but better offense with lesser defense) then I'd consider trading Marcus.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 19, 2017 9:43:11 GMT -5
BTW - Lin is out for the season with a ruptured patella tendon.
So Boston going to be worse than expected. Brooklyn is too. Not the way it was drawn up.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 19, 2017 9:56:01 GMT -5
Has anyone ever said that the refs or umpires decided to hand a game to Boston? Please. Well, to be fair, that's exactly what the majority of Jets fans are saying after Sunday's game. As you know a certain segment of fandom no matter the team, will often blame officiating for their teams' losses. Those same fans will almost never say "boy the refs really screwed the other team and gave us a win"....It's painful when our teams lose and probably human nature to look for scapegoats. Refs have been and always will be #1 in that category. Not that calls aren't missed, but I just think continually going to that well is weak. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 19, 2017 11:10:59 GMT -5
To be fair, my ire is usually reserved for MLB umps. The refs last night were a travesty though. They called some preposterous fouls on Brown who was well on his way to another fantastic game and had to settle for a good one. I say that's half the blame for the loss, the other half falling on Kyrie shooting 7-25. Pelicans could move on from the DMC and Davis duo, one of them will likely need to go. I hope Danny doesn't fall asleep on the piano again. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 19, 2017 12:13:56 GMT -5
Speaking of going to weak wells.  |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 20, 2017 2:54:19 GMT -5
This is perfect, exactly what I was hoping for. There is a lot of pride in the NBA and Lonzo Ball is going to deal with it every game. His father is making his life very difficult and there is a bullseye on him because of his Dads bravado. This works perfect for the C's as the Lakers will assuredly lose more because of it. Good teams don't normally get pumped up for bad teams but in this case teams and opposing guards will be making a point with Ball and the Lakers. Meaning the Lakers could be in perfect position for the C's to get their pick, not sure what the odds are but they just got better. Pick needs to be 2-5 so a little luck would be great to get one of the bigs coming out, supposed to be a great class. www.nba.com/games/20171019/LACLAL#/recap |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 20, 2017 3:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 20, 2017 7:43:10 GMT -5
Nice to see the Laker loss. We can only hope for 2-5. I think they are going to be better tho with Ball, Kuzma and Lopez but then they play in the tougher west.
Imagine the sugarplums dancing had we been able to somehow retain the Nets pick especially with Lin out...and get the Laker pick.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 20, 2017 13:29:16 GMT -5
The Lakers were without KCP and Josh Hart last night. They lost to a team I think most expected would be better. They currently have the same record as the Warriors. I hope they lose, but lets wait for them to play the bottom tier teams, those are the ones that will be telling. I wouldn't bet against Ball.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 20, 2017 13:39:35 GMT -5
I love watching the young guys get major minutes. Though playing Tatum, Smart and Brown together with no Hayward leaves us short on shooting. Rozier D looks to have improved, he has been causing havoc along with Smart. I am a little surprised by the amount of Smart post-ups though in the first two games. Not a bad idea, but Horford needs more post-ups than Smart in my opinion. Horford needs to be more involved, taking more shots.
I was also a little surprised that they didn't play more of Theis against the Greek Freak. We couldn't stop him, yet Theis only played 5 minutes. No Morris really hurt also, as Brown and Tatum just aren't ready to guard the LeBrons and Greek Freak type players yet.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 20, 2017 14:15:15 GMT -5
I wanted to add the Celtics have an interesting decision to make at some point. If Haywards injury is classified as season ending they get an 8.4 million exception. That can be used to sign a guy to a 1 year deal or trade for a player with one year left on his deal.
Does that include restricted free agents? Technically they are free agents.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 20, 2017 14:48:44 GMT -5
I don't think there are any RFA's left though, right?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 20, 2017 15:00:21 GMT -5
For next year, a guy like Smart. Technically he's a free agent, but most stay with the team if tendered a contract. The exception is limited to current free agents and to be free agents so an injury doesn't help you long-term. I just wondered how to be restricted free agents fit in.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 20, 2017 15:26:53 GMT -5
Ohhh, I see. If I understand the rule correctly, I think it's okay since, as you said, they are FA's.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 20, 2017 17:38:06 GMT -5
According to Adam Kaufman, the Cs have officially applied for the DPE.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 21, 2017 4:26:19 GMT -5
The Lakers were without KCP and Josh Hart last night. They lost to a team I think most expected would be better. They currently have the same record as the Warriors. I hope they lose, but lets wait for them to play the bottom tier teams, those are the ones that will be telling. I wouldn't bet against Ball. I wouldn't bet against Ball in the long-term either, but in his rookie year as a first year player, you can absolutely bet against Ball. He is going to be a great player, but he isn't Magic and he certainly isn't Kobe. I can absolutely see Ball failing for a while until he figures it out in the NBA. Rookies usually take forever to transition to NBA basketball, unless you're a transcendent kind of talent (like Kobe or Magic like I previously mentioned). |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 21, 2017 9:21:00 GMT -5
To be fair, my ire is usually reserved for MLB umps. The refs last night were a travesty though. They called some preposterous fouls on Brown who was well on his way to another fantastic game and had to settle for a good one. I say that's half the blame for the loss, the other half falling on Kyrie shooting 7-25. Pelicans could move on from the DMC and Davis duo, one of them will likely need to go. I hope Danny doesn't fall asleep on the piano again. When has he fallen asleep before? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 21, 2017 9:22:54 GMT -5
I wanted to add the Celtics have an interesting decision to make at some point. If Haywards injury is classified as season ending they get an 8.4 million exception. That can be used to sign a guy to a 1 year deal or trade for a player with one year left on his deal. Does that include restricted free agents? Technically they are free agents. I’m pretty sure that money needs to be used this year so using it on Smart would not be possible |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 21, 2017 9:25:13 GMT -5
I love watching the young guys get major minutes. Though playing Tatum, Smart and Brown together with no Hayward leaves us short on shooting. Rozier D looks to have improved, he has been causing havoc along with Smart. I am a little surprised by the amount of Smart post-ups though in the first two games. Not a bad idea, but Horford needs more post-ups than Smart in my opinion. Horford needs to be more involved, taking more shots. I was also a little surprised that they didn't play more of Theis against the Greek Freak. We couldn't stop him, yet Theis only played 5 minutes. No Morris really hurt also, as Brown and Tatum just aren't ready to guard the LeBrons and Greek Freak type players yet. I agree with this; having not Morris has been huge. People will understand once he’s playing - he’s a big time defender for those wing positions. Smart posting up a lot is a good thing. I don’t necessarily agree that Horford needs to do it more. There is an advantage we have and we should exploit it. Horford to the perimeter opens he lane for Smart to do this and if he kicks it out then Al can pass like a guard. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 21, 2017 9:30:17 GMT -5
Rozier has impressed me so far - if he can improve his ball movement and make quicker decisions and improve his finishing around the rim he’s going to be real good.
Tatum - man this kid can play. Just all around contributions. His plus/minus has been poor and his shooting is off but his shot will come. I’m not worried about that - he’s being passive with it right now. He very really just gets it and goes into his offense with conviction. He’s being too unselfish at times but that’s ok. He fills up a stat sheet and he’s been money from the Line and shown a good ability to get there. It’s nice to have a good rebounder too.
Bird looked good last night. Danny sure can find depth. Brad was gushing about Bird... loves his perimeter D and the kid is supposed to be able to shoot. He could be the guy that lets them walk away from Smart after this year and next.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 21, 2017 10:20:56 GMT -5
When has he fallen asleep before? Last year when he didn't get Noel or DMC for peanuts. Yeah I'm still salty. On a brighter note, man Tatum looks awesome. He looks like a natural fit at PF, he's bigger than I though and he's very long and picks his spots beautifully to grab rebounds. If he can legitimately stick at the 4, that would be a megaton. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 21, 2017 13:48:20 GMT -5
The Lakers were without KCP and Josh Hart last night. They lost to a team I think most expected would be better. They currently have the same record as the Warriors. I hope they lose, but lets wait for them to play the bottom tier teams, those are the ones that will be telling. I wouldn't bet against Ball. I wouldn't bet against Ball in the long-term either, but in his rookie year as a first year player, you can absolutely bet against Ball. He is going to be a great player, but he isn't Magic and he certainly isn't Kobe. I can absolutely see Ball failing for a while until he figures it out in the NBA. Rookies usually take forever to transition to NBA basketball, unless you're a transcendent kind of talent (like Kobe or Magic like I previously mentioned). Ball just scored 29 points, 11 rebounds and 9 assists in his second game. Playing against Eric Bledsoe a good defender. Ball is legit, this year. You mean well, but you have no clue about Kobe. He didn't dominate as a rookie, he averaged 7.6 points. Ball will be a lot better than Kobe ever was as a rookie. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 21, 2017 13:50:20 GMT -5
I wanted to add the Celtics have an interesting decision to make at some point. If Haywards injury is classified as season ending they get an 8.4 million exception. That can be used to sign a guy to a 1 year deal or trade for a player with one year left on his deal. Does that include restricted free agents? Technically they are free agents. I’m pretty sure that money needs to be used this year so using it on Smart would not be possible I was thinking Rodney Hood. He didn't start game one and his minutes were down, but that all changed in game two. We could use a shooter like Hood. |
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