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2017-18 Celtics Season Thread
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 28, 2018 21:21:21 GMT -5
Is Stevens challenging his young guys to step up tonight?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2018 22:57:21 GMT -5
Wow, good win.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 28, 2018 23:08:03 GMT -5
This team is amazing, they're just evil. That wasn't just a great win, it was downright mean to the Jazz and their awesome fans. They do remind me a bit of that 2004 Pistons team in that they're just incredibly tough and they can grind back into any game. Just incredible.
And Stevens should be COTY for that final play alone, holy nuts it was beautifully designed. Larkin kicking back to Semi was so unorthodox and then the extra pass to Jaylen and the Jazz had no chance. Perfect play, perfect execution, perfect everything.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 28, 2018 23:54:31 GMT -5
One thing confused me though, inserting Semi for the final 15 seconds. He sucks on offense this year, I thought that was a crazy thing to do. Then with like 5 seconds he gets it behind the 3 point line, thank the gods he passed the ball.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 29, 2018 7:33:01 GMT -5
Nader looked good last night in the second quarter. I didn’t see the rest of the game.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 29, 2018 9:49:02 GMT -5
One thing confused me though, inserting Semi for the final 15 seconds. He sucks on offense this year, I thought that was a crazy thing to do. Then with like 5 seconds he gets it behind the 3 point line, thank the gods he passed the ball. Semi was great there because it made Gobert essentially useless in that play if Larkin didn't go for the layup. Gobert had no chance of closing in on anyone and it helped that Rubio was LOST as well. They had 2 very open shots on that play, it was awesome. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 29, 2018 11:10:51 GMT -5
6 of your top 9/10 players out and they win on the road against a team that needs a win and is playoff bound. Wow!
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 29, 2018 12:18:57 GMT -5
6 of your top 9/10 players out and they win on the road against a team that needs a win and is playoff bound. Wow! The Celtics run of success, kind of proves how dysfunctional NBA is. Smart, focused, hardworking and well coached players can win games in this league. It’s one reason why, I think culture in the NBA is super important. These teams that try and build thru the draft but have a losing culture waste so much talent. The Nets seem to be building a strong culture of hard work there even while losing and I respect that. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 29, 2018 14:45:24 GMT -5
Kudos to Danny for building a super deep team and Stevens for being the best coach in NBA. This team always steps up when it matters. Take Monroe having a bad game going right at Gobert maybe the best defensive player in the league when we needed a basket or his huge rebound and free throws. Then Rozier can't make anything, all of a suden starts draining 3s and getting layups. Brown hitting a deep 3 to win it. You don't pull out this many close wins without clutch players.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 29, 2018 16:27:22 GMT -5
Kudos to Danny for building a super deep team and Stevens for being the best coach in NBA. This team always steps up when it matters. Take Monroe having a bad game going right at Gobert maybe the best defensive player in the league when we needed a basket or his huge rebound and free throws. Then Rozier can't make anything, all of a suden starts draining 3s and getting layups. Brown hitting a deep 3 to win it. You don't pull out this many close wins without clutch players. It's amazing how Danny ignores the scouting concerns regarding a lot of these players. A common knock on Jaylen around the time of the draft was that he couldn't shoot, now he's hitting Steph shots out there. I thought Jayson was too slow, he's hammering thunder dunks off the fast break like a madman. One common narrative about Danny is how much of a tough motherf*cker he is and it really shows on how unconventional a lot of his bets are. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 30, 2018 8:42:49 GMT -5
6 of your top 9/10 players out and they win on the road against a team that needs a win and is playoff bound. Wow! The Celtics run of success, kind of proves how dysfunctional NBA is. Smart, focused, hardworking and well coached players can win games in this league. It’s one reason why, I think culture in the NBA is super important. These teams that try and build thru the draft but have a losing culture waste so much talent. The Nets seem to be building a strong culture of hard work there even while losing and I respect that. So true! Stevens seems to have whatever it is to make these guys all come together and play this way. Each new guy that comes in just buys in and they all continue to succeed. Not easy with all the money these guys get and where most have come from. Ainge deserves credit also for getting the right guys. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 1, 2018 5:25:50 GMT -5
Surprised that after one of the better wins of the season not a single post. This team has really been something special. Who would have thought they could keep winning against the best teams in the league without Kyrie and Smart.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 1, 2018 5:43:46 GMT -5
Surprised that after one of the better wins of the season not a single post. This team has really been something special. Who would have thought they could keep winning against the best teams in the league without Kyrie and Smart. Yeah didn't watch it. Haven't watched all that much since Kyrie is out, but now the Celtics at least have a shot at the one seed at two games out. They have to win their next head to head matchup at Toronto, while keeping ground. Just haven't been watching lately with the start of the Sox season and the number 2 seed has been wrapped up for weeks now. It'd be cool to get the number one seed, but it still remains a decent longshot. I'll be watching come the postseason. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 2, 2018 6:28:58 GMT -5
So early on, some of you hated Morris and thought he was a terrible fit for this team. I felt he was a great fit but just coming back from injury. I’m curious now, if feelings have changed at all now that he’s in a rhythm and seems pretty healthy...
Next year is a contract year for him, so I’m interested to see if they look to move him this offseason or if they look to make a run with as strong as a team as possible and likely lose him as a free agent for
nothing... or will they spend the money to keep both him and one of Rozier/Smart as key bench pieces...
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 2, 2018 16:37:17 GMT -5
So early on, some of you hated Morris and thought he was a terrible fit for this team. I felt he was a great fit but just coming back from injury. I’m curious now, if feelings have changed at all now that he’s in a rhythm and seems pretty healthy... Next year is a contract year for him, so I’m interested to see if they look to move him this offseason or if they look to make a run with as strong as a team as possible and likely lose him as a free agent for nothing... or will they spend the money to keep both him and one of Rozier/Smart as key bench pieces... He really has been key with all the injuries he has stepped up and proven his value to the team. Took a while to get healthy and up to speed given how his season started. Based on what he has done lately it would be nice to have around but I think next year will be his last. I see Theis as the guy they will go with as he will be cheaper and salaries will be adding up soon. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 2, 2018 20:37:15 GMT -5
So early on, some of you hated Morris and thought he was a terrible fit for this team. I felt he was a great fit but just coming back from injury. I’m curious now, if feelings have changed at all now that he’s in a rhythm and seems pretty healthy... Next year is a contract year for him, so I’m interested to see if they look to move him this offseason or if they look to make a run with as strong as a team as possible and likely lose him as a free agent for nothing... or will they spend the money to keep both him and one of Rozier/Smart as key bench pieces... I didn't love Morris, but I didn't hate him either. He had a very rough stretch where he took way too many terrible shots, he's been more selective lately and of course he's hitting the tough ones better as well. I think Danny should sell high on him this offseason if he can find a deal for a better big than Baynes for the Baynes role, but I wouldn't mind if he stayed put as well. Dude is a heck of a leader as well. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 2, 2018 21:27:31 GMT -5
So early on, some of you hated Morris and thought he was a terrible fit for this team. I felt he was a great fit but just coming back from injury. I’m curious now, if feelings have changed at all now that he’s in a rhythm and seems pretty healthy... Next year is a contract year for him, so I’m interested to see if they look to move him this offseason or if they look to make a run with as strong as a team as possible and likely lose him as a free agent for nothing... or will they spend the money to keep both him and one of Rozier/Smart as key bench pieces... . He had a very rough stretch where he took way too many terrible shots, he's been more selective lately and of course he's hitting the tough ones better as well. I think Danny should sell high on him this offseason if he can find a deal for a better big than Baynes for the Baynes role, but I wouldn't mind if he stayed put as well. Dude is a heck of a leader as well. I agree, DC. When Gordo comes back next year I'm not sure where the minutes will be for MM. If he doesn't mind more bench time, I don't mind him sitting there. He's proven useful in a pinch. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 3, 2018 7:18:39 GMT -5
Baynes can be improved but I’m not sure he can be for the money he gets. Our defense is great with him. He’s a bit under rated in my opinion.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 3, 2018 7:21:06 GMT -5
People are starting the Kawhi Leonard to the Celtics rumors. His salary right now is just over 18m... Smart, Brown, Morris and that Kings pick... depends what they think of Brown...
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 3, 2018 7:47:49 GMT -5
People are starting the Kawhi Leonard to the Celtics rumors. His salary right now is just over 18m... Smart, Brown, Morris and that Kings pick... depends what they think of Brown... I would not give up the kings pick. They could have another first round pick or 2, not that one. I'd do it without that pick involved. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 3, 2018 9:59:51 GMT -5
People are starting the Kawhi Leonard to the Celtics rumors. His salary right now is just over 18m... Smart, Brown, Morris and that Kings pick... depends what they think of Brown... I agree with Pedrofan, no Kings pick as Kawhi's value could be deflated after the clusterf*ck of a season he's having. Could Smart be traded though? And if he can't be traded, matching salaries would be tough. But yeah, I love Brown and I think he's going to be fantastic, but I'd do this trade. Irving, Hayward, Leonard, Tatum and Horford? Holy nuts. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 3, 2018 10:09:12 GMT -5
People are starting the Kawhi Leonard to the Celtics rumors. His salary right now is just over 18m... Smart, Brown, Morris and that Kings pick... depends what they think of Brown... I agree with Pedrofan, no Kings pick as Kawhi's value could be deflated after the clusterf*ck of a season he's having. Could Smart be traded though? And if he can't be traded, matching salaries would be tough. But yeah, I love Brown and I think he's going to be fantastic, but I'd do this trade. Irving, Hayward, Leonard, Tatum and Horford? Holy nuts. Yes you can trade Smart if he signs. Leonard’s injury doesn’t seem all that serious. The cluster is why he might be available but it seems like an internal issue with him and Pop. If you think you’re keeping Tatum and that Kings pick, I think you’re crazy. The question becomes the tax bill. They will need some assurances that Leonard will resign and extending him and Kyrie will give you 4 Max contracts. They can do it but it’s expensive. Leonard hasn’t turned 27 yet and he’s legitimately an MVP candidate. He’d become your best player and he might be the only guy in the league that can truly guard LeBron and Durant. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 3, 2018 10:51:06 GMT -5
Morris looks great recently. The one thing I always wondered is if Stevens system could increase his efficiency. Even after his horrible start he's having a career year across the board. He's on pace to have just slightly above league average PER for the first time in his career. If this is just him healthy and getting to know the system great. At the same time I wonder if this is just him getting hot and part of it being injuries means they use him more. The type of guy that plays a lot better with the starters than as a backup. He did start to go off right around the time we had a ton of injuries.
So for me the playoffs will be huge for him. I want to see if he can keep his efficiency up. I won't say we should trade him, but I do wonder how he fits next year when were fully healthy.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 3, 2018 11:17:59 GMT -5
Morris looks great recently. The one thing I always wondered is if Stevens system could increase his efficiency. Even after his horrible start he's having a career year across the board. He's on pace to have just slightly above league average PER for the first time in his career. If this is just him healthy and getting to know the system great. At the same time I wonder if this is just him getting hot and part of it being injuries means they use him more. The type of guy that plays a lot better with the starters than as a backup. He did start to go off right around the time we had a ton of injuries. So for me the playoffs will be huge for him. I want to see if he can keep his efficiency up. I won't say we should trade him, but I do wonder how he fits next year when were fully healthy. Valid questions but hasn’t he basically been playing with the same guys he’d play with in the second unit? |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 3, 2018 12:04:26 GMT -5
I agree with Pedrofan, no Kings pick as Kawhi's value could be deflated after the clusterf*ck of a season he's having. Could Smart be traded though? And if he can't be traded, matching salaries would be tough. But yeah, I love Brown and I think he's going to be fantastic, but I'd do this trade. Irving, Hayward, Leonard, Tatum and Horford? Holy nuts. If you think you’re keeping Tatum and that Kings pick, I think you’re crazy. I'm not trading that Kings pick for anything less than Anthony Davis. Especially a Leonard that's coming off a lost season. They're already getting a top 5 pick in Brown. They can have the Memphis pick, or even 2 more first rounders. Not doing it for Leonard. |
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