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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 23, 2018 21:47:21 GMT -5
The Celtic's fourth quarter has easily been their worst, but Cleveland can't buy a basket either.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 23, 2018 21:48:13 GMT -5
I guess the good news is that it can't get much worse...Rozier's stats are so ugly
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Post by ianrs on May 23, 2018 21:49:01 GMT -5
I guess the good news is that it can't get much worse...Rozier's stats are so ugly It's hilarious that fans were proposing trading Kyrie. Probably the same folks that wanted to trade Brady after Matt Cassel's run. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 23, 2018 21:50:41 GMT -5
I guess the good news is that it can't get much worse...Rozier's stats are so ugly It's hilarious that fans were proposing trading Kyrie. Probably the same folks that wanted to trade Brady after Matt Cassel's run. Tell me where Kyrie knees are at in the beginning and ending of next season/playoffs, and I'll tell you that I was wrong. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 23, 2018 21:52:23 GMT -5
I am "watching" on ESPN gamecast and listening - WHY is Rozier still shooting?
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2018 21:56:07 GMT -5
Korver scares the hell out of me.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 23, 2018 21:56:21 GMT -5
Game over. LeBron is out of the game.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2018 21:56:36 GMT -5
Korver scares the hell out of me. Not now in the game but man he can shoot it |
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 23, 2018 22:00:13 GMT -5
On to game 6. wow. unbelievable. That Tatum kid can play, hey!
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2018 22:02:05 GMT -5
If game 6 is a Cavs blow out this is the dumbest series ever.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 23, 2018 22:05:12 GMT -5
LeBron looks tired, needs a vacation. Celtics in 6 baby!
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Post by Don Caballero on May 23, 2018 22:05:24 GMT -5
Celtics played hard but sloppy. They can be better in game 6. I loved Brad's rotation tonight. I like Semi and all but he can't be playing minutes in this series, same as Monroe or obviously Yabu. I hope they avoid foul trouble so they can ride the top 7 guys.
Lebron looked EXHAUSTED and he won't get much rest til friday. This could be huge, but he's not exactly human so whatever.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2018 22:06:48 GMT -5
That was one of the least enjoyable pivotal game 5 wins ever. But I’m happy with the result
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Post by voiceofreason on May 24, 2018 5:42:08 GMT -5
Like I said before the series started, play Baynes on Thompson so he can't dominate on the boards. They did that last night and it was a big factor. Good game overall, great game defensively but too many missed gimmies. How many layups can you miss in a game?. They can play better and will, maybe game 6 will be it but they should win this series.
Can Lebron rebound for a home game or is he just toast? What a great overall game from Tatum now adding some great passes to his resume.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2018 6:27:10 GMT -5
Ultimately not putting that game away and making LeBron play most of that 4th too might help in games 6 and 7. They need to just make LeBron work and stick with the other guys. They still didn’t do that well last night. The Cavs got way too many open 3s that they just missed.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2018 6:53:50 GMT -5
I said it last night and I mean it. Kyle Korver scares the crap out of me. But Ty Lue doesn’t. The guy literally said Ojeleye not playing thru him for a loop so Korver didn’t play as much. I mean I totally understand looking at Semi and saying “ok when he’s in, I want this lineup to exploit him”, but it should never affect you that much when he doesn’t play. Idiot
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 24, 2018 10:12:05 GMT -5
Where's Pedro saying LeBron is better than ever? Still a great player, but he can no longer play 40 minutes a night and dominate for a full game. He needs them to be a head so he can coast for stretches or get extra rest.
You can't play Korver 30 minutes a night, he just gets abused on D, game 4 being a crazy outlier. Not scared at all about him.
Lue just couldn't adjust to that crazy switch they keep doing on Rozier. Litterally without them being able to abuse that they have looked like crap all series. Sure the Cavs missed some shots, but man so did the Celtics. The Celtics just had the lowest FG% for them in the entire playoffs. They played great D, but only Tatum was good offensively. This really should have been a 30 point blowout. The Celtics missed easy layups and easy shots in the paint, the Cavs kept missing jumpers, besides LeBron. You see the difference when other players guard him over Rozier, it makes he spend so much engery. If you keep it close or have the lead the Cavs suck. Let them get a big lead and they are a different team.
Wanna know who scares me? Nance by far and away, he has the best offense and defensive ratings for this series on that team. Everytime he's in the game his engery and hustle plays kill us. He's like there Smart type player, but also gives them a huge rebounding edge. If Lue was smart he'd be playing him 30 plus minutes a night if not having him start. Both runs they made lastnight were with him on the court. Outside of LeBron he's the only guy that can compete with our athletes.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2018 11:24:33 GMT -5
Yea Nance has been good, but to be fair I think both the Cavs runs were the two times Stevens sat Horford and Tatum at the same time. It probably has to happen at some points in the game but man is it bad.
Korver scares me because he can just shoot the lights out without space to really operate. They just suck at using him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 24, 2018 11:57:30 GMT -5
LeBron had been averaging 34 points a game before the series with 9 assists and 9 rebounds a game. To that point he was as good as ever. LeBron however is getting worn down after playing probably one of his most tiring seasons where he played a lot up until this point. Finally his age is *starting* to catch up. He isn't a cyborg afterall.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 24, 2018 12:40:43 GMT -5
Yea Nance has been good, but to be fair I think both the Cavs runs were the two times Stevens sat Horford and Tatum at the same time. It probably has to happen at some points in the game but man is it bad. Korver scares me because he can just shoot the lights out without space to really operate. They just suck at using him. For the series Nance has an offensive rating of 131 and a defensive rating of 88, both are the best on the team. It wasn't just last game or when certain guys were on the bench. It's like I said before the series started, when they removed him towards the end of the Pacers series. That was going to be there downfall, thinking the old Cavs would be better against us. They aren't and Lue hasn't adjusted again. The way Hill has played it's comical that Hood hasn't played more. The Cavs needed the Younger players against us, but Lue basically benched them all. Remember when I said this wasn't the same team that got hot after those trades? That Cavs team was starting Hood and playing Nance and Clarkson big minutes. Lucky for us the old guys beat the Pacers and rolled over the Raptors because now Lue hardly plays those guys. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 24, 2018 12:49:37 GMT -5
LeBron had been averaging 34 points a game before the series with 9 assists and 9 rebounds a game. To that point he was as good as ever. LeBron however is getting worn down after playing probably one of his most tiring seasons where he played a lot up until this point. Finally his age is *starting* to catch up. He isn't a cyborg afterall. It's not just about numbers and that was my point bofore the series. It's about how his team plays and frankly he's a big part of the problem. Take game three and four he got his teammates going. He hasn't done that in the three losses, he just plays hero ball. He doesn't seem to have adjusted to playing without other star players like he did before he went to Miami. They get down or it gets close and it's all hero ball. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 24, 2018 13:01:03 GMT -5
LeBron had been averaging 34 points a game before the series with 9 assists and 9 rebounds a game. To that point he was as good as ever. LeBron however is getting worn down after playing probably one of his most tiring seasons where he played a lot up until this point. Finally his age is *starting* to catch up. He isn't a cyborg afterall. It's not just about numbers and that was my point bofore the series. It's about how his team plays and frankly he's a big part of the problem. Take game three and four he got his teammates going. He hasn't done that in the three losses, he just plays hero ball. He doesn't seem to have adjusted to playing without other star players like he did before he went to Miami. They get down or it gets close and it's all hero ball. I think it's more of a talent issue on the Cavs. They aren't good as a collective group. Outside of Love, I don't think I'd want another player off their roster even if they were given to the Celtics. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2018 13:08:51 GMT -5
LeBron had been averaging 34 points a game before the series with 9 assists and 9 rebounds a game. To that point he was as good as ever. LeBron however is getting worn down after playing probably one of his most tiring seasons where he played a lot up until this point. Finally his age is *starting* to catch up. He isn't a cyborg afterall. It's not just about numbers and that was my point bofore the series. It's about how his team plays and frankly he's a big part of the problem. Take game three and four he got his teammates going. He hasn't done that in the three losses, he just plays hero ball. He doesn't seem to have adjusted to playing without other star players like he did before he went to Miami. They get down or it gets close and it's all hero ball. LeBron got killed after game 2 for not taking over after the 1st and trying to get his teammates involved. Then does the same thing in games 3 and 4 but his team hits shots and he’s a genius for getting them involved. Now game 5 he’s playing hero ball? Did we watch the same game last night? If anything, I’d say that when he’s not getting the calls from the refs and his teammates aren’t hitting shots then he’s not the God he is when those things are happening. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 24, 2018 13:10:27 GMT -5
It's not just about numbers and that was my point bofore the series. It's about how his team plays and frankly he's a big part of the problem. Take game three and four he got his teammates going. He hasn't done that in the three losses, he just plays hero ball. He doesn't seem to have adjusted to playing without other star players like he did before he went to Miami. They get down or it gets close and it's all hero ball. I think it's more of a talent issue on the Cavs. They aren't good as a collective group. Outside of Love, I don't think I'd want another player off their roster even if they were given to the Celtics. I’d take Korver off the bench for certain situations... Nance or Thompson would be nice to have as insurance... but yea it’s rough |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 24, 2018 13:12:43 GMT -5
I think it's more of a talent issue on the Cavs. They aren't good as a collective group. Outside of Love, I don't think I'd want another player off their roster even if they were given to the Celtics. I’d take Korver off the bench for certain situations... Nance or Thompson would be nice to have as insurance... but yea it’s rough I don't know, Korver can't play much defense. Brad Stevens would really hate that. He is a great shooter though. |
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