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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 11:01:55 GMT -5
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2018inductees.
Bon Jovi
Nina Simone
The Cars
The Moody Blues
Dire Straits
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
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Post by libertine on Jan 9, 2018 10:42:24 GMT -5
Yeah, Ray Thomas of the Moody Blues just passed away. Time to get more of these overlooked (overlooked in the sense that Jann Wenner hates them) prog bands from the 60's and 70's in the Hall.
And when the heck are they going to put Motorhead in? Lemmy and Philthy are already gone but if a band ever embodied what rock & roll is it was Motorhead...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 19:02:31 GMT -5
Jethro Tull
Yes
Pantera
Motley Crue
Iron Maiden. BANDS NOT IN THE
Motorhead. ROCK & ROLL
Thin Lizzy. HALL OF FAME
BOSTON
Bad Company
Def Leppard
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Post by libertine on Jan 9, 2018 22:07:58 GMT -5
Yes is in. But not before Chris Squire died.
Tull belongs but don't expect them any time soon (see my comment about Jann Wenner).
Pantera? Ok, but probably Megadeth and Slayer from their genre should go in before them.
Motley Crue at some point go in. Hell if GnR got inducted the Crue belongs in.
I am all for Iron Maiden's induction.
Motorhead should have been in a decade ago.
Thin Lizzy? I am ambivalent about this one. Good band but many more deserving.
Bad Company, Boston, Def Leppard? Bad Co. are probably most deserving of the three. For some reason I've always had a visceral dislike of Def Leppard and Boston.
Bands I think belong (off the top of my head and not listed so far);
MC5 (the Stooges are in, their Detroit brothers from MC5 should be too)
Hawkwind (Lemmy's first band and still releasing music 45 years later)
Ten Years After
Procol Harum
King Crimson (if the Moody Blues are inducted...)
Blue Oyster Cult (like Motorhead should have been inducted 10 years ago)
Blue Cheer (arguably, with Black Sabbath, one of the first heavy metal bands. Very influential)
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Post by libertine on Jan 9, 2018 22:14:56 GMT -5
Oh, and I forgot, Rory Gallagher. How one the best blues guitarists ever isn't in is beyond my comprehension.
And Nicky Hopkins. English session man (keyboards) who played on the most of hits from the Rolling Stones, Kinks, The Who from the mid 60's to the late 70's. Briefly joined Quicksilver Messenger Service. Was part of Jeff Beck's band (Truth and Beck-Ola). Played with Jefferson Airplane briefly (including their Woodstock performance). The Tin Man should be in!
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Post by libertine on Jan 9, 2018 22:56:04 GMT -5
Here are a couple prime examples of Nicky Hopkins' work...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 23:03:43 GMT -5
My musical tastes are all over the place. Sabbath, Zeppelin Parliament/Funkadelic, The Who, the Kinks
Rush Motown. But after my accident I've been listening to John Coltrane (Blue Train). Miles Davis and Stevie Ray Vaughn. And now that you mention Rory Gallagher I'll have to go back into my albums and CD'S
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Post by libertine on Jan 9, 2018 23:14:29 GMT -5
Good list of tastes. LOL @ Funkadelic! Love them! Doctor Funkenstein is da bomb. Maggot Brain is one of the greatest rock songs ever.
I will bring some Rory to you...  
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 18, 2018 2:26:53 GMT -5
Yes is in. But not before Chris Squire died. Tull belongs but don't expect them any time soon (see my comment about Jann Wenner). Pantera? Ok, but probably Megadeth and Slayer from their genre should go in before them. Motley Crue at some point go in. Hell if GnR got inducted the Crue belongs in. I am all for Iron Maiden's induction. Motorhead should have been in a decade ago. Thin Lizzy? I am ambivalent about this one. Good band but many more deserving. Bad Company, Boston, Def Leppard? Bad Co. are probably most deserving of the three. For some reason I've always had a visceral dislike of Def Leppard and Boston. Bands I think belong (off the top of my head and not listed so far); MC5 (the Stooges are in, their Detroit brothers from MC5 should be too) Hawkwind (Lemmy's first band and still releasing music 45 years later) Ten Years After Procol Harum King Crimson (if the Moody Blues are inducted...) Blue Oyster Cult (like Motorhead should have been inducted 10 years ago) Blue Cheer (arguably, with Black Sabbath, one of the first heavy metal bands. Very influential) That a majority of rock critics think the Moody Blues are more worthy of induction that Procol Harum is sad but predictable. Here are two outrageous claims that I think are demonstrably true: There is more musical interest in the first three chords of "A Salty Dog" than in the entire Moody Blues catalog. There are countless verses and even short phrases in Procol Harum's lyrics that have more linguistic / literary interest and worth than the entire Moody Blues catalog. (Here's a favorite, the signs of the impending apocalypse in "Whaling Stories"": Rum was served to all the traitors Pygmies held themselves in check Bloodhounds nosed around the houses Down dark alleys sailors crept Six bells struck. The pot was boiling Soup spilled out on passers-by ... Keith Reid had a gift for saying a lot in in a few words. "Pygmies held themselves in check" suggests an entire short story.) |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 18, 2018 4:54:35 GMT -5
Yes is in. But not before Chris Squire died. Tull belongs but don't expect them any time soon (see my comment about Jann Wenner). Pantera? Ok, but probably Megadeth and Slayer from their genre should go in before them. Motley Crue at some point go in. Hell if GnR got inducted the Crue belongs in. I am all for Iron Maiden's induction. Motorhead should have been in a decade ago. Thin Lizzy? I am ambivalent about this one. Good band but many more deserving. Bad Company, Boston, Def Leppard? Bad Co. are probably most deserving of the three. For some reason I've always had a visceral dislike of Def Leppard and Boston. Bands I think belong (off the top of my head and not listed so far); MC5 (the Stooges are in, their Detroit brothers from MC5 should be too) Hawkwind (Lemmy's first band and still releasing music 45 years later) Ten Years After Procol Harum King Crimson (if the Moody Blues are inducted...) Blue Oyster Cult (like Motorhead should have been inducted 10 years ago) Blue Cheer (arguably, with Black Sabbath, one of the first heavy metal bands. Very influential) That a majority of rock critics think the Moody Blues are more worthy of induction that Procol Harum is sad but predictable. Here are two outrageous claims that I think are demonstrably true: There is more musical interest in the first three chords of "A Salty Dog" than in the entire Moody Blues catalog. There are countless verses and even short phrases in Procol Harum's lyrics that have more linguistic / literary interest and worth than the entire Moody Blues catalog. (Here's a favorite, the signs of the impending apocalypse in "Whaling Stories"": Rum was served to all the traitors Pygmies held themselves in check Bloodhounds nosed around the houses Down dark alleys sailors crept Six bells struck. The pot was boiling Soup spilled out on passers-by ... Keith Reid had a gift for saying a lot in in a few words. "Pygmies held themselves in check" suggests an entire short story.) Ah yes, music critics. I'd take any of the 7 albums between 'Days of Future Past' and 'Seventh Sojourn' over any Procol Harum album. The Moodies began to fall apart around 'Keys to the Kingdom', Procol when their most talented musician, Robin Trower left. Of course music taste is like opinions, everybody's got one. Haha to the first three chords comment but that would make one believe you haven't heard the first three chords. Breathe deep the gathering gloom Watch lights fade from every room Bedsitter people look back and lament Another day's useless energy spent Impassioned lovers wrestle as one Lonely man cries for love and has none New mother picks up and suckles her son Senior citizens wish they were young Cold-hearted orb that rules the night Removes the colours from our sight Red is grey and yellow, white But we decide which is right And which is an illusion |
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Jan 18, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -5
My girlfriend and I visited the Rock Hall (and the NFL Hall of Fame) this past October. Sensory overload - in a good way! Hope people get a chance to visit the place some time.
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 18, 2018 14:08:16 GMT -5
That a majority of rock critics think the Moody Blues are more worthy of induction that Procol Harum is sad but predictable. Here are two outrageous claims that I think are demonstrably true: There is more musical interest in the first three chords of "A Salty Dog" than in the entire Moody Blues catalog. There are countless verses and even short phrases in Procol Harum's lyrics that have more linguistic / literary interest and worth than the entire Moody Blues catalog. (Here's a favorite, the signs of the impending apocalypse in "Whaling Stories"": Rum was served to all the traitors Pygmies held themselves in check Bloodhounds nosed around the houses Down dark alleys sailors crept Six bells struck. The pot was boiling Soup spilled out on passers-by ... Keith Reid had a gift for saying a lot in in a few words. "Pygmies held themselves in check" suggests an entire short story.) Ah yes, music critics. I'd take any of the 7 albums between 'Days of Future Past' and 'Seventh Sojourn' over any Procol Harum album. The Moodies began to fall apart around 'Keys to the Kingdom', Procol when their most talented musician, Robin Trower left. Of course music taste is like opinions, everybody's got one. Haha to the first three chords comment but that would make one believe you haven't heard the first three chords. Breathe deep the gathering gloom Watch lights fade from every room Bedsitter people look back and lament Another day's useless energy spent Impassioned lovers wrestle as one Lonely man cries for love and has none New mother picks up and suckles her son Senior citizens wish they were young Cold-hearted orb that rules the night Removes the colours from our sight Red is grey and yellow, white But we decide which is right And which is an illusion Well, I've heard (and very much liked) most of the classic Moody Blues albums, and I can't ever recall asking myself, "wow, what's that chord?" Lots of great songwriters write great songs without using (or inventing) interesting, unusual chords. Paul McCartney doesn't do it (although he's beyond brilliant at key changes, q.v. "Here, There and Everywhere" and "Fool on the Hill"). In contrast, Brian Wilson does it all the time. Gary Brooker did it quite often in the classic Procol Harum days. (BTW, I need to amend my assertion about "A Salty Dog," because I was looking at an incorrect tab. What I originally wrote, based on my memory of learning the part (a pretty thrilling moment), was correct -- there is more musical interest in the very first chord of "A Salty Dog" than in the entire Moody Blues catalog. It's a Db with a diminished fifth, which is about as weird a first chord for a song as you can come up with.) The thing is, there are people who kind of don't hear the difference, or if they do, are indifferent to it. That certainly describes the vast majority of rock critics, and certainly seems to describe you. There's nothing wrong with that. So the question is, does harmonic complexity (which is what I'm talking about) have any objective value? Is there any sense in which music that is more harmonically complex is better than music that is simpler? Well, one objective answer to that is, there are lots of listeners who prefer harmonic complexity, and this trait highly correlates to a general love of music. Rock music fans who do not value harmonic complexity tend to be fans of rock and pop primarily, and as much as they might love rock music (and there are obviously people who have devoted their lives to it), it's hard to call them "music lovers" as opposed to "rock music lovers." In contrast, those who value harmonic complexity tend to also be fans of classical (especially 20th century classical) and jazz (especially avant-garde jazz). The second objective answer is that a great many of the most widely recognized great composers earned their reputation because they made advances in harmonic complexity. Beethoven, especially. Stravinsky and Bartok in the 20th century, and then finally the atonal composers (Schoenberg, Berg) pushed it to the point where many listeners just hear noise. In jazz, same thing. Now, in terms of lyrics, we can each have our own taste, again, and there's no telling someone that they are wrong to love a certain set of words. But, again, you can get a consensus among people who are really into lyrics and poetry. I did poetry workshops at the highest possible level in college (writing song lyrics when everyone else was writing poetry), so I think I have a real good sense of the sort of poetry and lyrics that people who are really into them prefer. There are bits from Liz Phair songs, for instance, that I'm pretty sure would bring one of those workshops to a halt, where everyone stops evaluating, suggesting, and criticizing, and just says "that's great." And this is true even though they aren't overtly poetic like Dylan or Procol's Keith Reid (or King Crimson's Pete Sinfield or Cream / Jack Bruce's Pete Brown, both of whom are really good). "The sawed-off tree trunks stand among the living palms" (Dogs of L.A.) "The stewardess came back and checked on my drink In the last strings of sunlight, a Brigitte Bardot As I had on my headphones Along with those eyes that you get When your circumstance is movie-size" (Stratford-on-Guy) So, my sense is that Keith Reid lyrics would go over terrifically with such folks, and they'd never see Moody Blues lyrics because you couldn't even get into an entry-level workshop with them. Again, that doesn't negate you really liking them, and in fact I can see the qualities they have. They just seem obvious to me, too on the nose and lacking in nuance--too overly familiar for someone who has read a whole lot of other words. You can see that this is cognate to preferring harmonic complexity to harmonic simplicity. After a point you want the notes and/or words to go places you haven't seen anyone go before. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 18, 2018 22:31:03 GMT -5
That's total poppycock.
You talk about creativity but completely ignore a few minor details. The Moody Blues were the first 'rock band' to incorporate classical instrumentation into their music. Pinder's Mellotron was the first use of a synthesizer in a successful band. Their Threshold record label forced Decca into giving them complete artistic control and they became the first to make entire albums with songs related to each other. That combination spawned the entire Progressive Rock genre and they were major influences on groups like ELO, Yes, King Crimson, and Pink Floyd. All of those groups probably had more technically proficient musicians but none of them would have likely been successful without the Moody Blues blazing their path.
Procol Harum was a two hit wonder with huge turnover and fragmented internal issues. They pretty much had three distinct circles, the original members, the organist (Thomas or something like that) and Trower and friends. Their LPs are a total mishmash of styles. Good to know that you are impressed with a few new combinations of a bazillion possible chord combinations. You should give a listen to SRV who invented chords on the fly or Albert King who didn't need a lot of chords to sound sweet.
For your lyrics opinions, they are just that, opinions and I seriously doubt if you have any clue what Dylan, etc. would appreciate based on a college course. You actually put Dylan and Reid in the same sentence ? Give me a break. Dylan didn't write a bunch of unrelated lines and string them together. They had a message.
MB:
I'm a melancholy man, that's what I am,
All the world surrounds me, and my feet are on the ground.
I'm a very lonely man, doing what I can,
All the world astounds me and I think I understand
That we're going to keep growing, wait and see.
When all the stars are falling down
Into the sea and on the ground,
And angry voices carry on the wind,
A beam of light will fill your head
And you'll remember what's been said
By all the good men this world's ever known.
Another man is what you'll see,
Who looks like you and looks like me,
And yet somehow he will not feel the same,
His life caught up in misery, he doesn't think like you and me,
'Cause he can't see what you and I can see.
Like it or not, Procol is just another two bit (but talented) band that will
likely only be in the HoF if they buy a ticket.
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Post by libertine on Jan 18, 2018 23:31:55 GMT -5
That's total poppycock. You talk about creativity but completely ignore a few minor details. The Moody Blues were the first 'rock band' to incorporate classical instrumentation into their music. Pinder's Mellotron was the first use of a synthesizer in a successful band. Their Threshold record label forced Decca into giving them complete artistic control and they became the first to make entire albums with songs related to each other. That combination spawned the entire Progressive Rock genre and they were major influences on groups like ELO, Yes, King Crimson, and Pink Floyd. All of those groups probably had more technically proficient musicians but none of them would have likely been successful without the Moody Blues. Procol Harum was a two hit wonder with huge turnover and fragmented internal issues. They pretty much had three distinct circles, the original members, the organist (Thomas or something like that) and Trower and friends. Their LPs are a total mishmash of styles. Good to know that you are impressed with a few new combinations of a bazillion possible chord combinations. You should give a listen to SRV who invented chords on the fly or Albert King who didn't need a lot of chords to sound sweet. For your lyrics opinions, they are just that, opinions and I seriously doubt if you have any clue what Dylan, etc. would appreciate based on a college course. You actually put Dylan and Reid in the same sentence ? Give me a break. Dylan didn't write a bunch of unrelated lines and string them together. They had a message.
MB:
I'm a melancholy man, that's what I am,
All the world surrounds me, and my feet are on the ground.
I'm a very lonely man, doing what I can,
All the world astounds me and I think I understand
That we're going to keep growing, wait and see.
When all the stars are falling down
Into the sea and on the ground,
And angry voices carry on the wind,
A beam of light will fill your head
And you'll remember what's been said
By all the good men this world's ever known.
Another man is what you'll see,
Who looks like you and looks like me,
And yet somehow he will not feel the same,
His life caught up in misery, he doesn't think like you and me,
'Cause he can't see what you and I can see. Like it or not, Procol is just another two bit (but talented) band that will
likely only be in the HoF if they buy a ticket.To me it isn't just about the "hits". Barry Manilow had a bunch of "hits" does he belong? It is about the influence. That is why the Stooges were inducted. Not for their 3 albums and their 5 year "heyday". Procol Harum, like King Crimson, influenced many bands that followed them. The Byrds are in. The Hollies are in. Buffalo Springfield are in. But Procol Harum are not and do not belong based on their catalog of music? What's the difference between them and the bands I just listed from their era (many of whom had shorter runs as bands) who are in? The hits?
Probably the biggest "prog" oversight in terms of belonging in the Hall but not being inducted yet are Hawkwind. They along with Pink Floyd were the first "space rock" bands. Pink Floyd are in because they went with a more pop sound, for "the hits", in their mid to late career. Hawkwind isn't because they stayed true to their space rock roots. Both were equally influential on the bands that followed them. To me there is very little difference between the bands other than "the hits". And Hawkwind's career is still ongoing all of these years later (albeit with only Dave Brock from the early days...a bunch of them have passed away).
Talking about Hawkwind has put me in the mood for soe of their space rock...
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Post by libertine on Jan 18, 2018 23:40:34 GMT -5
And Hawkwind segues right to Motorhead (which if I am not careful could lead to another semi-self righteous-mini rant about the HoF)...
Lemmy's "theme". The last song he wrote for the band before he left and formed Motorhead. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2018 0:21:59 GMT -5
I totally agree about influence over hits which is where I basically disagreed with eric's rant on Procol Harum over The Moody Blues and I don't think that's even close in terms of influence. I also think that Procol wasn't different enough to have much influence on following bands, their progressive rock run was pretty much simultaneous with other progressive bands. In retrospect, the most influential member of their band was Robin Trower whose influence mostly came after he left them and wasn't Progressive Rock.
In terms of what should get you into the hall, Bob Dylan was the Babe Ruth of modern music. lol, if either of my children had been males, they would have been named Dylan.
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Post by libertine on Jan 19, 2018 0:31:44 GMT -5
Just like with the other bands I listed from their era both Procol Harum and the Moody Blues belong in. To me the difference between the two bands is a difference without a distinction.
Then you bring up a musician near and dear to me musically...Robin Trower. How he is not in the HoF in some way, shape or form is a mystery to me and very irritating. Between what he did with Procol Harum and his solo work how can he not be in? Seen him live twice amazing guitarist who made some equally amazing music. Alvin Lee (Ten Years After), Robin Trower (Procol Harum) and Rory Gallagher not being in the HoF is a joke...
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2018 3:36:57 GMT -5
Just for the fun of it...
Share your opinions.
Best male vocalist: Orbison
Best Female Vocalist: Ronstadt (although Streisand is tempting here)
Best lead guitar: Hendrix (Vai is probably more technically proficient but lacks 'soul')
Best rhythm guitar: Clapton
Best bass Guitar: Entwistle (The Who, but I wouldn't argue anybody else's opinion here)
Best drummer: Keith Moon (ditto)
Best Keyboards: Emerson
Best harmonica: Magic Dick
Best performer: Stevie Ray Vaughn although I'm also partial to Willie Nelson and Albert King
Best group: Beatles
Best harmony group: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Best Rock group: J. Geils Band
Best song writer: Dylan
Most influential: Dylan
Greatest Song: Bohemian Rhapsody
Favorite song: Mustang Sally Buddy Guy and Jeff Beck
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2018 3:51:46 GMT -5
Just like with the other bands I listed from their era both Procol Harum and the Moody Blues belong in. To me the difference between the two bands is a difference without a distinction. Then you bring up a musician near and dear to me musically...Robin Trower. How he is not in the HoF in some way, shape or form is a mystery to me and very irritating. Between what he did with Procol Harum and his solo work how can he not be in? Seen him live twice amazing guitarist who made some equally amazing music. Alvin Lee (Ten Years After), Robin Trower (Procol Harum) and Rory Gallagher not being in the HoF is a joke... I saw Trower a few times myself when he was older but he could still bring it. His version of Crossroads is my all time favorite. For Procol he and the organist were at odds with each other for where the band should be heading. A relatively famous rift similar to the one between Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart. Agree on Trower and Lee but Rory will not likely make it (although I would vote for him), Blues is like the illegitimate child to the voters. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2018 3:58:24 GMT -5
Beck and Stewart were great together, Stewart was born to be a blues singer, sad he turned pop.
They made up later after too much time passed:
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Post by libertine on Jan 19, 2018 10:04:26 GMT -5
Just for the fun of it... Share your opinions. Best male vocalist: Orbison Best Female Vocalist: Ronstadt (although Streisand is tempting here) Best lead guitar: Hendrix (Vai is probably more technically proficient but lacks 'soul') Best rhythm guitar: Clapton Best bass Guitar: Entwistle (The Who, but I wouldn't argue anybody else's opinion here) Best drummer: Keith Moon (ditto) Best Keyboards: Emerson Best harmonica: Magic Dick Best performer: Stevie Ray Vaughn although I'm also partial to Willie Nelson and Albert King Best group: Beatles Best harmony group: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Best Rock group: J. Geils Band Best song writer: Dylan Most influential: Dylan Greatest Song: Bohemian Rhapsody Favorite song: Mustang Sally Buddy Guy and Jeff Beck Best male vocalist: Arthur Brown (to me it is all about "range")
Best Female Vocalist: Janis Joplin
Best lead guitar: Hendrix
Best rhythm guitar: Keith Richards
Best bass Guitar: Jack Bruce
Best drummer: Ginger Baker
Best Keyboards: Jon Lord (not only for his chops but for his compositional ability)
Best harmonica: Paul Butterfield
Best performer: Rory Gallagher (live performances were his calling card)
Best group: Rolling Stones (they kept on chugging out the songs long after the Beatles were gone)
Best harmony group: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Best Rock group: Ramones
Best song writer: Dylan
Most influential: Dylan
Greatest Song: Sunshine of Your Love
Favorite song: Hocus Pocus
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Post by libertine on Jan 19, 2018 10:15:28 GMT -5
It is said that when he was in London in the late 60's/early 70's Hendrix was asked what it felt like being the world's greatest guitarist his reply (reportedly) was "I don't know, go ask Rory Gallagher".
SRV is in and is as much a blues guitarist as you'll find. Stevie is a legend and rightfully in the HoF. Rory was every bit the blues guitarist that Stevie was.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2018 11:08:05 GMT -5
I was at a dream outdoor concert at Boston Commons in the 70's (free). The group was The Paul Butterfield Band. In the middle of a song, they stopped and introduced James Cotton. The two played the harp for a while then stopped again and Muddy Waters was introduced. The three played for a while then stopped once again and Magic Dick was introduced. No words....
I've also heard the Hendrix story about Rory. During his acceptance speech at the HoF induction ceremony for Charlie Musslewhite, he was introduced as the world's greatest harmonica player. His response was call me that when I can play Wammer Jammer.
Keep in mind, this is live:
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 19, 2018 18:03:57 GMT -5
The whole concept of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame just irks me. I've heard really crappy things about the guy who founded it. Who made him the owner of all rock and roll music and king of who gets in?
I've always thought that a real rock and roll guy would just tell them to f off and not show up. The concept of a rock and roll hall of fame is the antithesis of rock and roll.
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Post by libertine on Jan 19, 2018 22:43:30 GMT -5
I was at a dream outdoor concert at Boston Commons in the 70's (free). The group was The Paul Butterfield Band. In the middle of a song, they stopped and introduced James Cotton. The two played the harp for a while then stopped again and Muddy Waters was introduced. The three played for a while then stopped once again and Magic Dick was introduced. No words.... I've also heard the Hendrix story about Rory. During his acceptance speech at the HoF induction ceremony for Charlie Musslewhite, he was introduced as the world's greatest harmonica player. His response was call me that when I can play Wammer Jammer. Keep in mind, this is live: I do like J. Geils a lot. Magic Dick is great. Some of these discussions come down to minor subtleties and preferences.
I really like a lot of what the band did. Probably my favorite track is a bit of deeper cut from them.
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