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Post by Addam603 on Jan 22, 2018 16:49:43 GMT -5
This thought has been bouncing around in my head for the last couple of days. Last year, you could say that Chavis, Mata, or Beeks were the guys that really broke out and became high (for our system) level prospects. That leads me to wonder who’s going to be that guy this year? Absolutely no way to tell, but it’s fun to speculate.
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Post by jiant2520 on Jan 22, 2018 17:04:42 GMT -5
E. Rodriguez could have a huge year, if his knee injury is behind him.
A couple other names could be Swihart and Brentz. A bigger name could be Bogey, he could break out this year. Marco Hernandez will have every opportunity too.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 22, 2018 17:23:08 GMT -5
Some of these guys are already trending up, but Pedro Castellanos, Hildemaro Requena, Santiago Espinal, and Nick Duron have my attention. In short season ball, I've got my eyes on Aaron Perry, Tyler Esplin, Kervin Suarez, and Andre Colon, but I'll admit its hard to make a dramatic rise up the rankings without a full season assignment or elite pedigree. Of course I'm excited about Alex Scherff and Danny Diaz, but they're not under-the-rader types so a 'breakout' from either of them would be less surprising. That said, if you're thinking about guys who can become high level prospects, those two are probably your best bets.
That said, I'm not sure I see any of these guys (minus Scherff and Diaz) challenging for say a top 10 spot in our system by year's end. Maybe Castellanos if he continues to rake, but even then, the defensive profile is poor and puts a lot of pressure on his bat. Espinal is a guy I find interesting because I think his tools (solid SS defense, contact rate, a little speed) elevate his floor, but at the same time, there's not a ton of upside so he might max out in the 20s of our system rankings.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 22, 2018 20:48:43 GMT -5
Cole Brannen. Tanner Houck. What a great draft that was for the Sox last year.
I'm excited for both of these players especially.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 21:39:39 GMT -5
A a lot of good players already mentioned in this thread I think with new hitting coach Tim Hters he'll make a big difference with Bogart's JBJ Devers. Then the players that were signed through the international signing period like Diaz Daza.Here are my pics Esteban Quiroz Michael Chavis Darwinzon Hernandez.My dark horse long shot is Trenton Kemp he sounds like a five tool player if you can stay away from the injury bug this kid might put together a great season someday.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 21:52:05 GMT -5
A lot of good players of already been mentioned in this thread. I think with new hitting coach Tim hyers will make a big difference at the major league level with players like Bogart's Chavis JBJ and Devers. The 2017 draft could produce some breakouts they're Houck Brannen Netzer Esplin Thompson. The International signings to had some great players in their already mentioned. But here are my picks Mike Shawaryn Darwinzon Hernandez. My Dark Horse long shot is Trenton Kemp this kid could stay away from the injury bug I think he's a five tool player and could become a great player.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 23, 2018 10:49:38 GMT -5
If the slider that Speier reports he was dominating with in the last start of 2017 is for real, Darwinzon Hernandez will rise quickly. Needs to cut the walks though.
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Post by Bogey2Short on Jan 23, 2018 11:32:14 GMT -5
I am seeing Jake Thompson as my number 1 breakout, followed by CJ Chatham and Lorenzo Cedrola. Everlouis Lozada is my favorite Dark Horse so to speak. I think he'll break the too 10 by the end of the season. He's can hit, take a walk, and steal a base, all at 5'7" 150lbs.
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Post by chadwhick on Jan 23, 2018 11:52:09 GMT -5
Austin Glorius and Trenton kemp are my breakouts. Both had a lot of health issues last year. Hopefully they can stay healthy this year and both make jumps
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 23, 2018 12:08:27 GMT -5
Still driving the Chavis bandwagon over here. Which is not really in the spirit of the question since he's kind of already broken out but whatever my love will not be denied.
Real answer? One of the large, hard throwing men drafted last year. Take your pick for which one.
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Post by juanpena on Jan 23, 2018 12:34:05 GMT -5
I would love to see Mike Shawaryn show at Portland that he could be a viable starter instead of another bullpen arm. He had couple of bad starts at Greenville and Salem last year inflating his ERA, but his strikeout numbers were impressive, and he was seen as a first-round talent before injuries set him back as a junior at Maryland.
And obviously the Sox need to see C.J. Chatham actually be able to stay on the field to see what he actually might be.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jan 23, 2018 13:29:34 GMT -5
It would be really nice to see a guy like Chatham break out and look like a guy who could replace Bogaerts or Pedey in a couple years. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "break-out" but I'd also like to see one of the top 3 take a big step forward, perhaps this would apply to Groome more than anyone but if Mata has a monster year or Chavis carries over his progress from last year into this year at a higher level it would make the state of the system look much better.
Other than that, my wish list would comprise of some of the youngsters having big first full years. I'm looking at guys like Brannen, and Scherff. It would be nice for one of those guys to look like their draft slot was more than justified and show some potential big-time MLB stuff.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 23, 2018 14:06:45 GMT -5
I'll be bold here.
I'll nominate Jason Groome, our #1 prospect, to "break out".
Actually become a prospect whose rating would be based on results rather than just projections.
If he's healthy and taking care of his body, the results could come really quickly which would be a very exciting occurrence.
In a way Chavis who was also a #1 draft pick and had high expectations finally broke out last year once his health was better and he made the adjustments.
I think Ockimey could be a breakout as well, somebody whose results take a leap forward. Perhaps Ockimey puts it together this year and whacks 25 - 30 homers while maintaining a reasonable BA with a lot of walks.
I'm hoping Chatham and Brannen bust out because the Sox don't have much in the way of middle infield/outfield prospects.
I'll also pick Cedrola to put up a noticeable season hitting above .300 with speed, but will he walk enough?
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 23, 2018 14:28:08 GMT -5
I'm personally swinging for the fences.....Bobby Dalbec!!
If he ever figures out a better 2-strike plan and starts using the whole field, he has the potential to be a fast riser. He has so many tools, but some serious "holes". I guess if Mark Reynolds can do it, then Bobby can also. He plays a premium position, has a great arm, and immense power. BUT sadly, if he doesn't have that light bulb come on and figure how to layoff that breaking ball outside and how to approach a 2 strike count....well I will pick someone else (LOL).
IF Chatham is finally healthy and plays a full season, he will be the best bet.
I'm personally psyched about following: Alex Scherff, Brett Netzer, and Tyler Esplin.
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Post by Addam603 on Jan 23, 2018 14:45:27 GMT -5
If we’re talking about guys that are really far down the rankings list, I could see Kemp, Castellanos, Cedrola (he’s a big one), and Requena that have been mentioned already. Some other names I can think of: Baldwin-if he continues to slug at Salem and develops defensively, the Dearden/Durden combo, and most hopefully to me- Danny Diaz, Antoni Flores, and the inevitable Bryan Mata-like guy that comes out of nowhere in the DSL.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 23, 2018 15:45:43 GMT -5
For the system I would like to see Mata pitch his way to Portland with a break through year and for a hitter it would be great if Dalbec hit the way he did his first year.
For the Sox and a break out player I am thinking Hector Velazquez could end up being a very important contributor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 7:06:10 GMT -5
Austin Glorius and Trenton kemp are my breakouts. Both had a lot of health issues last year. Hopefully they can stay healthy this year and both make jumps Totally agree on Trenton Kemp.He's a intriguing prospect. And welcome to the SoxProsprcts board. Hope you enjoy the site
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 25, 2018 7:30:47 GMT -5
Christopher Smith Verified account @smittyonmlb 1h1 hour ago
Bobby Poyner, Boston Red Sox prospect, will compete for lefty reliever role with improved changeup, new cutter
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Post by jmei on Jan 25, 2018 10:05:59 GMT -5
I could well see Poyner being part of Boston's late-inning reliever mix by the end of the season.
In terms of other long-shots who might might a few levels and add value to the major league club by year-end, I'll throw out Chad De La Guerra and Darwinzon Hernandez.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 25, 2018 10:31:52 GMT -5
I could well see Poyner being part of Boston's late-inning reliever mix by the end of the season. In terms of other long-shots who might might a few levels and add value to the major league club by year-end, I'll throw out Chad De La Guerra and Darwinzon Hernandez. Disagree on Darwinzon only to the extent that if this new slider is for real, they're going to let him try to start. If it isn't, then yeah, fast trick might make sense. Also, late-innings for Poyner is kind of nuts to me given Poyner's stuff, but middle innings absolutely.
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Post by jmei on Jan 25, 2018 11:28:26 GMT -5
I don’t think he’d be their setup man, but Robby Scott was pitching in some high-leverage situations, and Poyner has less extreme splits.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 25, 2018 13:14:09 GMT -5
A general comment regarding breakouts -- I'm particularly excited about short-season ball this year with the infusion of young players into the system. Building a strong farm system is both about quality (i.e., identifying top quality with your 1st, 2nd round picks, big international bonus signings) and also about quantity (i.e., the more lottery tickets, the better). Admittedly, our farm system clearly doesn't look great at the top right now, but one thing our system has is a large quantity of unknowns. I don't recall (and someone can correct me if this is wrong) such a large infusion of young talent. We drafted 11 HS players and have signed somewhere in the neighborhood of ~50 international signings. That's insane. Granted, a big reason for that infusion is because of the previous ban on international signings, the gap that has created in the lower levels of the system, and the desire to return to 2 DSL teams. That doesn't change the fact however, that we have something like 60 new players under the age of 19 that we know very little about.
So I'm very excited to learn about these players.....if something like 10-12 of these guys turn into Top 60 prospects in our system in a couple years, and maybe 4-5 become Top 20 prospects, things may not look so bleak. Granted it will take years to be able to evaluate this young crop of players, but its exciting to start the process. This was a longwinded way of saying: I predict that ---INSERT COMPLETELY UNKNOWN TALENT HERE--- will (begin to) breakout this year.
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Post by jerryu on Jan 25, 2018 18:07:53 GMT -5
A way-below-the-radar prospect to breakout in 2018 may be Kerwin Suarez, slated to be the second baseman at Lowell. BA named him the best athlete in the system for 2017. BA'sbest athlete for each of the three previous years was Benintendi, Moncada, and Swihart.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 18:52:37 GMT -5
I didn't want to pull each individual thread out to page one of the Forum so here are some of the players we've been talking about so far
Trenton Kemp page 8 Lorenzo Cedrola page 7 Mike Shawaryn page 7 Travis Lakins page 7 Roldani Baldwin Page 6 Alex Scherff Page 6 David Durden page 3
A lot of good information in these threads
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 22:40:26 GMT -5
Jecorrah Arnold ss was an undrafted free agent in 2017 and was paid $50,000 to sign with the Red Sox and give up his commitment to Lipscomb .He may not be a breakout player this year but I found it intriguing that they paid him $50,000 as an undrafted free agent. His Pro debut was not the best but he is 19 years old. Sox prospects scouting report has him as a projectable frame athletic with good bat speed not much power good footwork and glove for his age below-average arm and still pay them $50,000. Intriguing?
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