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Post by webster7777 on Feb 11, 2018 2:21:42 GMT -5
Potential non prospect Blake Swihart.
Potential prospect breakout Jason Groome.
Swihart becomes the player we all envisioned him to be and the Red Sox will find a regular spot in field for him other than catcher.
Groome trained with Sale in the off season and learned a few things about pitching. Groome will make it to High A at least this year.
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Post by larrycook on Feb 12, 2018 9:08:46 GMT -5
I am really hoping groome pitches to his ability because he is stuff is Future ace material.
The new comer I am most curious about is schreff. His stuff projects him to be a 2 or 3 starter.
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Post by jbuttah on Feb 12, 2018 9:40:51 GMT -5
I'm going with C.J. Chatham based on draft status and health.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 12, 2018 11:25:36 GMT -5
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Post by pedroiaesque on Feb 12, 2018 11:49:03 GMT -5
For true breakouts, I’m gonna say Alex Scherff and CJ Chatham will be two guys that finish this year on the map as exciting prospects (top 100 or just outside).
As for players who will break out of relative obscurity by making their MLB debut and holding their own (the Ben Taylor award?), I’m taking Jalen Beeks and Bobby Poyner.
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Post by giltg on Feb 12, 2018 11:55:19 GMT -5
For true breakouts, I’m gonna say Alex Scherff and CJ Chatham will be two guys that finish this year on the map as exciting prospects (top 100 or just outside). As for players who will break out of relative obscurity by making their MLB debut and holding their own (the Ben Taylor award?), I’m taking Jalen Beeks and Bobby Poyner. The Ben Taylor Award.I like that.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 12, 2018 12:04:18 GMT -5
I guess I think Beeks is already beyond that. Given that he's already on the 40-man, would anyone honestly be surprised by him making the team as the bullpen lefty? I'd probably leave him starting in Pawtucket for depth purposes. But if they don't see his stuff playing in that role long-term, there's a very real chance he's already better than Robby Scott and Brian Johnson already, so it would make sense to just roll with that.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Feb 13, 2018 18:35:38 GMT -5
Not guys that I necessarily project will breakout, but guys that either have the capability to break out in a big way, or maybe are at a point in their career where they need a breakout (but have the talent to do so)
Yoan Aybar Nick Hamilton Marc Brakeman Kyri Washington
Personally, Brakeman was a guy I was excited about coming out of the draft so I really hope he puts it together this year, not sure how many more opportunities he'll get.
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Post by pedroiaesque on Feb 13, 2018 20:30:27 GMT -5
I guess I think Beeks is already beyond that. Given that he's already on the 40-man, would anyone honestly be surprised by him making the team as the bullpen lefty? I'd probably leave him starting in Pawtucket for depth purposes. But if they don't see his stuff playing in that role long-term, there's a very real chance he's already better than Robby Scott and Brian Johnson already, so it would make sense to just roll with that. Beeks is clearly not as obscure as Ben Taylor was this time last year, but I do still think his breaking camp with the team would be a surprise. I know it's a new coaching regime, but the Sox will presumably want to horde depth as much as possible, and keeping him in Pawtucket would accomplish that. Of course, if the Sox are willing to let BJ go (or if they need BJ to fill in as the 5th starter for a few weeks), then Beeks could challenge Scott for the bullpen lefty role. Still, I'd be surprised if he goes with the team to Tampa.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 19, 2018 14:04:54 GMT -5
Don't know why it's just suddenly coming to me, but anyways....
I'm intrigued by Pedro Castellanos. I think he'll put himself squarely on the map as in, can't wait to see this kid - he's the guy who will ultimately wind up at 1b for a good while with the Sox.
I think Tyler Esplin is interesting. I think he'll put up interesting numbers that move him up the rankings. He'll show some power.
I also think Bobby Poyner is a legit option come 7/31 for the bullpen. The Sox only have a LOOGY in Scott. They don't have a lefty who can be more than that so they might have to trade for one....or maybe Poyner can be that guy.
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Post by giltg on Feb 19, 2018 14:29:49 GMT -5
I was going through projected rosters for 2018 on SoxProspects the other night and I saw Tyler Esplin on the Lowell Spinners roster. I saw that he was from the IMG Academy in Bradenton Florida which is one of the top sports academies in the country. Esplin is a horse . He won't be 19 until July 6th of this year and he's 6-3 230 lb . If this kid develops If he can just make contact he could Mash. www.soxprospects.com/players/esplin-tyler.htm
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Post by carmenfanzone on Feb 19, 2018 18:48:38 GMT -5
I am going with Dalbec. I am hoping he is healthy for the whole year and can hit like he did in spring training last year before he got hurt.
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Post by m1keyboots on Feb 20, 2018 9:25:09 GMT -5
I see what you're saying.
Maybe I just love lefty relievers ( I do, admittedly).
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Post by nomar on Feb 20, 2018 15:04:04 GMT -5
One guy who hasn’t been mentioned that I’ll give some love to is Tyler Hill. He does a bit of everything offensively and is a fluid athlete. If he gets stronger, he could see some major benefits.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 23, 2018 12:10:37 GMT -5
Is there room on the Kemp bandwagon? Given how raw he was coming into the system, and how good the tools are, his debut in Salem had him looking like last year's breakout. Then he got hurt. He's my pick if he's healthy and ready to play.
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Post by giltg on Feb 25, 2018 6:57:26 GMT -5
My top 10 breakout players of 2018 1. Tanner Houck ranked #4 2. Michael Chavis ranked #2 3. Trenton Kemp ranked #55 4. Esteban Quiroz ranked #44 5. Darwinzon Hernandez ranked #14 6. Brett Netzer ranked #23 7. Danny Diaz ranked #17 8. Cole Brannen ranked #7 9. Pedro Castellanos ranked #33 10. Kyle Hart ranked #59 Honorable Mention Jeremy Barfield ranked #56 Hildemaro Requena ranked #50 Travis Lakins ranked #19 Dark Horse Conrad Gregor not ranked Wish I had put Dedgar Jimenez on my list . To go out and post a 15-3 record last year is a good story. I hope he moves up from the #57 prospect.
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 25, 2018 9:08:14 GMT -5
Castellanos, Chatham, Travis
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Post by soxjim on Feb 25, 2018 12:44:50 GMT -5
Just a question, but I never see Jalen Beeks mentioned in any of the major baseball sites or Prospect lists. I realize he's 24 and just completed double A, but he's had a good couple years and he is a lefty, with good strikeout rates and apparently good stuff from what I read Is it only an age thing? I believe shohei Otani is 23. I've even seen and I believe it was on fangraphs, Brian Johnson rated ahead of beeks in regards to prospect status. I understand he has AAA and Major League experience but the stuff is obviously gone Southward and anything he throws near the plate gets hit a country mile. Edited for I R gud at grammar I have no idea who will breakout. But as far as Johnson, for a number 5 starter you think he stinks? I was thinking he can be a decent 5. I wouldn't call that "breakout." His starts didn't look too bad below, did they? What would you expect from a 5? And no one mentioned Elias. Is he "done?" www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=johnsbr02&t=p&year=2017
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Post by m1keyboots on Feb 25, 2018 13:50:35 GMT -5
Just a question, but I never see Jalen Beeks mentioned in any of the major baseball sites or Prospect lists. I realize he's 24 and just completed double A, but he's had a good couple years and he is a lefty, with good strikeout rates and apparently good stuff from what I read Is it only an age thing? I believe shohei Otani is 23. I've even seen and I believe it was on fangraphs, Brian Johnson rated ahead of beeks in regards to prospect status. I understand he has AAA and Major League experience but the stuff is obviously gone Southward and anything he throws near the plate gets hit a country mile. Edited for I R gud at grammar I have no idea who will breakout. But as far as Johnson, for a number 5 starter you think he stinks? I was thinking he can be a decent 5. I wouldn't call that "breakout." His starts didn't look too bad below, did they? What would you expect from a 5? And no one mentioned Elias. Is he "done?" www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=johnsbr02&t=p&year=2017 My opinion on BJ is based on his results before the velocity went down, and the results he got after when he made it through a ML lineup a couple times with only 2 or 3 runs- as opposed to what his blowups looked like. People sitting on the curve and slow cutters. Maybe it was just me but it felt like he was eeking through teams with lineouts and a well placed curveball. Also the control didn't seem to be there for a guy whose stuff looks like 30 yo Jamie Moyers. I do realize stuff isn't everything, but how many guys that are successful are like that? Buehrle (rarely walked people), Moyer I suppose. I liked BJ when he was 89 mph, I dont think he belongs in an AL East lineup at 83 mph cutters Elias could be a serious arm though, and with some SP success he could see 15 starts much like last year's Velasquez/Fister and to a lesser degree Kendrick. Hes proven at AAA and even in Seattle a bit. I like Elias too, hell for 5th spot guys I'm fine with a strike-thrower who doesn't rattle.
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Post by mandelbro on Feb 25, 2018 14:40:58 GMT -5
Is there room on the Kemp bandwagon? Given how raw he was coming into the system, and how good the tools are, his debut in Salem had him looking like last year's breakout. Then he got hurt. He's my pick if he's healthy and ready to play. I'm with you. If I had to pick a position player to watch for a meteoric rise, I'd go with Trent Kemp. Has tools and his results have trended up in spite of moving up levels. Darwinzon Hernandez would be my choice of a pitcher. Being a tough look lefty, I don't think he's far off the major leagues in some kind of role, and with some maturation he'd be an MLB starter.
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Post by telson13 on Feb 25, 2018 17:08:45 GMT -5
Is there room on the Kemp bandwagon? Given how raw he was coming into the system, and how good the tools are, his debut in Salem had him looking like last year's breakout. Then he got hurt. He's my pick if he's healthy and ready to play. It’s getting crowded. His abortive break-out last year was awesome. He’s got big power and some terrific tools including his speed and arm. Excited to see if he picks up where he left off.
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Post by soxjim on Feb 25, 2018 18:37:09 GMT -5
I have no idea who will breakout. But as far as Johnson, for a number 5 starter you think he stinks? I was thinking he can be a decent 5. I wouldn't call that "breakout." His starts didn't look too bad below, did they? What would you expect from a 5? And no one mentioned Elias. Is he "done?" www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=johnsbr02&t=p&year=2017 My opinion on BJ is based on his results before the velocity went down, and the results he got after when he made it through a ML lineup a couple times with only 2 or 3 runs- as opposed to what his blowups looked like. People sitting on the curve and slow cutters. Maybe it was just me but it felt like he was eeking through teams with lineouts and a well placed curveball. Also the control didn't seem to be there for a guy whose stuff looks like 30 yo Jamie Moyers. I do realize stuff isn't everything, but how many guys that are successful are like that? Buehrle (rarely walked people), Moyer I suppose. I liked BJ when he was 89 mph, I dont think he belongs in an AL East lineup at 83 mph cutters Elias could be a serious arm though, and with some SP success he could see 15 starts much like last year's Velasquez/Fister and to a lesser degree Kendrick. Hes proven at AAA and even in Seattle a bit. I like Elias too, hell for 5th spot guys I'm fine with a strike-thrower who doesn't rattle. His fastball went significantly down from May 27th to July 18th and this ST it is still down from his May 27th outing? Or was his May 27th start and his July 18th start - both - there are stats showing he was ripped?
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Post by xithereon on Feb 25, 2018 21:15:02 GMT -5
Most of my favourite breakout candidates have already been mentioned to an extent so I am instead going to throw out a dark horse candidate: Ricardo Cubillan.
Pros: He led the system (min 50 PA) in BB% at an outstanding 23.1 Had a K% of only 15.4 (18th best in the system w/ >50PA) Best BB/K in system (min 50PA) at 1.5 He also put together a solid .271 BA Had a .444 OBP (2nd best in system) Gets on base even when slumping Plays SS primarily but can cover 2B, 3B and 1B
Cons: Showed literally 0 power (0 XBH last year, had the most PA in system without an XBH). Suspended in 2015 for supposed PED usage, which is certainly an additional concern. Streaky w/ most non-walk production crammed into short stretches
Other: The fact that he was only 17 at the time of the suspension gives some hope that he learned his lesson. The fact that he just turned 20 also gives some hope that he could still develop some semblance of power. Little scouting information available so I had to "scout the box scores" Played last year in GCL so stats could be very misleading regarding tools Half of Ks were looking 6SB to 1CS 3.6 LD% in July compared to 19.4 in August (29 of 34G were in these two months)
Conclusion: If he could develop just some doubles power and keep the regression of his BB% to a minimum he would become very interesting Needs to shorten slumps Needs to show July LD% was a fluke (in his short career it has so far been fine other than that one month)
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Post by alex710707 on Feb 25, 2018 22:17:18 GMT -5
I vote for Brett Netzer. polish bat with some power.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Feb 26, 2018 7:38:10 GMT -5
Not guys that I necessarily project will breakout, but guys that either have the capability to break out in a big way, or maybe are at a point in their career where they need a breakout (but have the talent to do so) Yoan Aybar Nick Hamilton Marc Brakeman Kyri Washington Personally, Brakeman was a guy I was excited about coming out of the draft so I really hope he puts it together this year, not sure how many more opportunities he'll get. Washington is a guy have been hoping to turn the corner. Was in Ft myers right after he was assigned there and he was hitting lasers in a series. Lorenzo Cedrola is another don't think gets enough love. Superb fielder with a cannon for an arm witnessed couple times that same 2015 season.
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