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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 12:44:31 GMT -5
Maybe but they shouldn’t. They are from 6 years ago and some dumb high school kid. Would he have gone higher than 7? Not unless the Browns would have taken him over Mayfield.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 12:47:43 GMT -5
Maybe but they shouldn’t. They are from 6 years ago and some dumb high school kid. Would he have gone higher than 7? I think the Bills panicked frankly and bought into the hype he was a top flight talent. He would have most likely been there at 12 and they paid a big price to jump up a few spots, while passing on Rosen a much more polished QB. In a way I get it, Rosen showed his issues in his first press confrence. Heck even before the draft talking about nedding a personal chef, like that's a normal thing. At the same time even with Rosens issues Allen has a long way to go as a passer. I just don't get how he goes 7th and Jackson goes 32nd.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 12:55:26 GMT -5
Probably won't cost much and could be a great pickup. Dante will make him better and maybe he can flip to the left side. Lots of options, lots of competition is good. In Dante I trust. The cost wasn't high for a starting right OT and he was playing very well last year. Given his size though, I doubt he's a left tackle. Maybe if he can lose some weight. Just if you think Wynn is a left tackle, that gives you Waddle and Garcia as backups. Nevermind Croston, Tobin and the 3 other guys on the roster. So maybe they do think Wynns a guard. That's why I'm confused, just when I started looking at Wynn as an OT they acquire another OT.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 13:15:10 GMT -5
Probably won't cost much and could be a great pickup. Dante will make him better and maybe he can flip to the left side. Lots of options, lots of competition is good. In Dante I trust. The cost wasn't high for a starting right OT and he was playing very well last year. Given his size though, I doubt he's a left tackle. Maybe if he can lose some weight. Just if you think Wynn is a left tackle, that gives you Waddle and Garcia as backups. Nevermind Croston, Tobin and the 3 other guys on the roster. So maybe they do think Wynns a guard. That's why I'm confused, just when I started looking at Wynn as an OT they acquire another OT. Add to it that he and Cannon are both really RT and the mystery grows... maybe he will fail his physical
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 13:21:33 GMT -5
I never really paid attention to the list of RB UGA has produced... my god it’s an impressive list.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 27, 2018 13:31:24 GMT -5
Probably won't cost much and could be a great pickup. Dante will make him better and maybe he can flip to the left side. Lots of options, lots of competition is good. In Dante I trust. The cost wasn't high for a starting right OT and he was playing very well last year. Given his size though, I doubt he's a left tackle. Maybe if he can lose some weight. Just if you think Wynn is a left tackle, that gives you Waddle and Garcia as backups. Nevermind Croston, Tobin and the 3 other guys on the roster. So maybe they do think Wynns a guard. That's why I'm confused, just when I started looking at Wynn as an OT they acquire another OT. They announced Wynn as a left tackle which is usually what the team wants him to play at.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 13:54:26 GMT -5
The Felger and Mazz big board they do is amazing. Year after year they nail at least one pick. Got Isaiah Wynn last night.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2018 14:35:44 GMT -5
Probably won't cost much and could be a great pickup. Dante will make him better and maybe he can flip to the left side. Lots of options, lots of competition is good. In Dante I trust. The cost wasn't high for a starting right OT and he was playing very well last year. Given his size though, I doubt he's a left tackle. Maybe if he can lose some weight. Just if you think Wynn is a left tackle, that gives you Waddle and Garcia as backups. Nevermind Croston, Tobin and the 3 other guys on the roster. So maybe they do think Wynns a guard. That's why I'm confused, just when I started looking at Wynn as an OT they acquire another OT. I almost predicted the cost to be a late 2nd 3rd day pick, which it does, so I should have. So many options with BB and DS to choose I am confident it will be a strength, it seems like a lot of talent there. They are not very big but they are athletic, I am feeling pretty good about the last 24 hrs. I think they will take it a little slow with Brown after the shoulder injury and added weight he has supposedly put on. It would be good to get him in better shape than he has played in the past, if he lost some weight he could play the left side. Also read that Garcia is feeling and looking good, he is getting up to weight. Offensive line has gone from a concern to a strength in my mind. Wherever Wynn plays he is going to be at least good at LT or very good inside.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 14:41:47 GMT -5
The cost wasn't high for a starting right OT and he was playing very well last year. Given his size though, I doubt he's a left tackle. Maybe if he can lose some weight. Just if you think Wynn is a left tackle, that gives you Waddle and Garcia as backups. Nevermind Croston, Tobin and the 3 other guys on the roster. So maybe they do think Wynns a guard. That's why I'm confused, just when I started looking at Wynn as an OT they acquire another OT. They announced Wynn as a left tackle which is usually what the team wants him to play at. I know Mike Mayock mentioned that on air, but patriot.com has video of the Patriot calling in the pick and they said write this down, offensive lineman Isaiah Wynn. They didn't call the pick in as OT. Then in Nick Caserio news confrence when asked about Wynn playing left tackle he made a point of saying he can play OT and G like 2-3 times. Saying they'll put in the mix of the 5 man OL and pick the 5 best players. Even saying how Solder played a position he never played before in RT his rookie year. Which is interesting as some people have mentioned Wynn playing center. So we'll see how this unfolds, he could be playing anywhere next year. I think they love that about him, gives them major flexibility.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 14:43:59 GMT -5
The Felger and Mazz big board they do is amazing. Year after year they nail at least one pick. Got Isaiah Wynn last night. Which is kinda amazing given those two. If I remember right don't they shoot darts at a bunch of players and the one it hits is the guess?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 14:48:52 GMT -5
The cost wasn't high for a starting right OT and he was playing very well last year. Given his size though, I doubt he's a left tackle. Maybe if he can lose some weight. Just if you think Wynn is a left tackle, that gives you Waddle and Garcia as backups. Nevermind Croston, Tobin and the 3 other guys on the roster. So maybe they do think Wynns a guard. That's why I'm confused, just when I started looking at Wynn as an OT they acquire another OT. I almost predicted the cost to be a late 2nd 3rd day pick, which it does, so I should have. So many options with BB and DS to choose I am confident it will be a strength, it seems like a lot of talent there. They are not very big but they are athletic, I am feeling pretty good about the last 24 hrs. You can't complain about trading a late 3rd for a late 5th and a starting level RT making very little. That's a lot better than trading an early 5th for a very late 6th and an overpaid kickoff specialist.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2018 14:57:59 GMT -5
It says a lot when they all think you could play LT and C, could be bull but it says a lot about him. Him next to Mason would be solid for what they like to do. What would suck is that he would be taking fellow Bulldog and friend Andrews job, ouch.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2018 15:05:34 GMT -5
Not a Patterson fan?
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2018 15:12:42 GMT -5
Is Barkley the 2nd coming of Bo Jackson?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 15:17:21 GMT -5
He's a great returner in a game where teams rarely return kickoffs. He makes almost double what Matthews does even if he reaches all his incentives. He cost moving from high 5th to very low 6th in the draft. I really like the 5th round, in most drafts you can still find starters or really good backups. By the very late 6th round you get players that are unlikely to make the team. We've seen this year after year lately given how deep the Patriots are. Undrafted free agents stand a better chance because there are 30 of them. So it's not really I hate Patterson, I just hate the cost. He's a very good kickoff returner, you can run some trick plays for him. I just hate spending so much money and draft capital on special teams year in and year out. I would have preferred they use that pick to get a young returner/WR that cost peanuts for the next 4 years. With more upside as a true WR.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 15:24:45 GMT -5
Bo Jackson ran a 4.13 40 at 6'1'' 227 pounds, which is just crazy.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2018 15:29:27 GMT -5
It isn't Pattersons fault that Bill thought he was worth what he paid to get him. Although their are cracks in the wall in BB I trust. Patterson has tools.
Although I am a lot more confidant in Matthews contributing.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2018 15:42:19 GMT -5
Bo Jackson ran a 4.13 40 at 6'1'' 227 pounds, which is just crazy. Bo was the most athletic player I ever saw. The 4.13 is not completely verifiable, I would like to believe for the history and all but that is Usain Bolt's second gear fast. Jackson at Auburn in 1985 had an OPS of 1.364 for the baseball team and ran for 1,786 yards.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 16:24:50 GMT -5
The Felger and Mazz big board they do is amazing. Year after year they nail at least one pick. Got Isaiah Wynn last night. Which is kinda amazing given those two. If I remember right don't they shoot darts at a bunch of players and the one it hits is the guess? They throw a marker ha
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 27, 2018 17:16:08 GMT -5
Is Barkley the 2nd coming of Bo Jackson? Might be the closest combo of speed and size since Bo, but he's no Bo Jackson. He's really freaking impressive though.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 18:28:58 GMT -5
So part of me really wants Rudolph, but there are so many good defensive guys available I want one of them too...
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2018 18:32:01 GMT -5
Based how this draft is going, they'll go WR lol. There are a ton of very good defensive players.
Edit, given the talent a trade down could be in the cards.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Apr 27, 2018 18:34:16 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not really concerned about any of the picks made thus far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 27, 2018 18:36:46 GMT -5
Based how this draft is going, they'll go WR lol. There are a ton of very good defensive players. Edit, given the talent a trade down could be in the cards. Trade down is most likely - i missed last night so no way they let me see a pick for at least another hour.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Apr 27, 2018 18:39:25 GMT -5
At this point I think they could trade down and still get either Jackson or Rudolph.
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