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Post by rjp313jr on May 11, 2018 13:10:22 GMT -5
Patriots are cutting Antonio Garcia. That sucks.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 11, 2018 13:24:15 GMT -5
Patriots are cutting Antonio Garcia. That sucks. That makes no sense that they would do this already this early if he was cleared to play. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 11, 2018 13:30:58 GMT -5
Patriots are cutting Antonio Garcia. That sucks. That makes no sense that they would do this already this early if he was cleared to play. They must not agree and sometimes when a situation like this comes up they will release early to give player more of a chance elsewhere |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 11, 2018 15:47:24 GMT -5
Color me highly confused. They let him practice, how can't you think he's healthy? This only makes sense if he just can't play again. You used a third and fourth round pick on him and he was never given a chance.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 11, 2018 16:23:20 GMT -5
Color me highly confused. They let him practice, how can't you think he's healthy? This only makes sense if he just can't play again. You used a third and fourth round pick on him and he was never given a chance. I’m equally as Confused but I can’t say he wasn’t given a chance; it’s an unfortunate situation and I gotta believe there’s something more here. Perhaps he’s just so out of shape there’s no way he can make it back and they won’t be able to put him on IR or PUP? Or they know they’ll have to and don’t want to use the initial 53 man spot on him just to do that. Am I correct that they have to use a 53 spot for that initially? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 11, 2018 16:38:16 GMT -5
If I remember yes, you would need a spot on the first 53 roster.
I don't even care about that, just a roster space is more important now? Just see what he can do in camp, it cost nothing. I really wouldn't have cared if he wasn't good enough to make the team, its the not even giving him a chance to compete for it that bugs me.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 11, 2018 16:49:22 GMT -5
If I remember yes, you would need a spot on the first 53 roster. I don't even care about that, just a roster space is more important now? Just see what he can do in camp, it cost nothing. I really wouldn't have cared if he wasn't good enough to make the team, its the not even giving him a chance to compete for it that bugs me. Right but if he’s so far off that there’s no way he can get the strength then why do that? He was under weight to start then lost like 40 pounds and wasn’t cleared to even workout until January. That’s a lot. Just saying I doubt they cut him if he had a chance to compete. Of course if he ends up playing then we know that was wrong. I just don’t think that’s possible or like you said a roster spot now doesn’t matter. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 11, 2018 17:03:45 GMT -5
No scholarships in Foxborough. Sorry Garcia didn't make it but I love the approach.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 11, 2018 17:19:35 GMT -5
If I remember yes, you would need a spot on the first 53 roster. I don't even care about that, just a roster space is more important now? Just see what he can do in camp, it cost nothing. I really wouldn't have cared if he wasn't good enough to make the team, its the not even giving him a chance to compete for it that bugs me. Right but if he’s so far off that there’s no way he can get the strength then why do that? He was under weight to start then lost like 40 pounds and wasn’t cleared to even workout until January. That’s a lot. Just saying I doubt they cut him if he had a chance to compete. Of course if he ends up playing then we know that was wrong. I just don’t think that’s possible or like you said a roster spot now doesn’t matter. Ok they really liked him. Lets say it's just he'll need time to regain weight, won't happen by September. Why not let him try? He's got 4 months, maybe practice squad. The reason we spent a 3rd and 4th round pick on him is that getting starting quality LTs or even potential ones isn't easy. There has to be more to the story, like with Easley. Everyone thought it was the injuries, but it was a lot more than that. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 7, 2018 15:57:11 GMT -5
Edelman popped 4 games for using PED's. Well that stinks, but gives him more time off coming off of the knee injury.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 7, 2018 18:33:49 GMT -5
Edelman popped 4 games for using PED's. Well that stinks, but gives him more time off coming off of the knee injury. Screw that now I know he rehabbed right and will be back to full strength. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 1, 2018 14:20:26 GMT -5
Jordan Mathews cut... welp
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 1, 2018 15:33:46 GMT -5
First they are trying to trade Mitchell. Ok, reports were Mathews looked good catching TDs in practice. He then gets injured, so they cut him? Doesn't make much sense, unless its a really really bad hamstring injury, which most aren't. Now looking at Eric Decker. Lets just say I'm highly confused right now. The one thing Tom Brady needs is Reps with these guys. He's all about timing and that doesn't happen overnight.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 1, 2018 15:51:44 GMT -5
First they are trying to trade Mitchell. Ok, reports were Mathews looked good catching TDs in practice. He then gets injured, so they cut him? Doesn't make much sense, unless its a really really bad hamstring injury, which most aren't. Now looking at Eric Decker. Lets just say I'm highly confused right now. The one thing Tom Brady needs is Reps with these guys. He's all about timing and that doesn't happen overnight. Reports are it’s a serious injury. Hurt it the other day, came back and re-injured it. |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 1, 2018 16:39:16 GMT -5
First they are trying to trade Mitchell. Ok, reports were Mathews looked good catching TDs in practice. He then gets injured, so they cut him? Doesn't make much sense, unless its a really really bad hamstring injury, which most aren't. Now looking at Eric Decker. Lets just say I'm highly confused right now. The one thing Tom Brady needs is Reps with these guys. He's all about timing and that doesn't happen overnight. Reports are it’s a serious injury. Hurt it the other day, came back and re-injured it. That guy is always hurt. It's not surprising. His upside wasn't that great anyway. He's not that quick and drops too many passes. But getting hurt all the time is the worst part about him. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 1, 2018 16:43:44 GMT -5
The report has changed they put him on IR instead
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 1, 2018 17:57:10 GMT -5
Reports are it’s a serious injury. Hurt it the other day, came back and re-injured it. That guy is always hurt. It's not surprising. His upside wasn't that great anyway. He's not that quick and drops too many passes. But getting hurt all the time is the worst part about him. He played in 16 games both of his first two years, 14 in the third and 10 last year. Always hurt? His first three years he had 225 passes, 2,673 yards and 19 touchdowns. He was a big physical receiver we have lacked for years and was crazy productive outside of the Bills last year. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 1, 2018 17:58:22 GMT -5
The report has changed they put him on IR instead IR with an injury settlement, which means he's released. |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 1, 2018 18:22:12 GMT -5
That guy is always hurt. It's not surprising. His upside wasn't that great anyway. He's not that quick and drops too many passes. But getting hurt all the time is the worst part about him. He played in 16 games both of his first two years, 14 in the third and 10 last year. Always hurt? His first three years he had 225 passes, 2,673 yards and 19 touchdowns. He was a big physical receiver we have lacked for years and was crazy productive outside of the Bills last year. Yeah, he played hurt. He was mediocre on an Eagles team that didn't have any good receivers. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 1, 2018 20:04:33 GMT -5
www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MattJo00.htmHe played in 16 games both of his first two years, 14 in the third and 10 last year. Always hurt? His first three years he had 225 passes, 2,673 yards and 19 touchdowns. He was a big physical receiver we have lacked for years and was crazy productive outside of the Bills last year. Yeah, he played hurt. He was mediocre on an Eagles team that didn't have any good receivers. Where do you get this stuff? |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 1, 2018 20:53:25 GMT -5
Yeah, he played hurt. He was mediocre on an Eagles team that didn't have any good receivers. Where do you get this stuff? I’ve been an Eagles fan for decades. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 2, 2018 2:13:47 GMT -5
Where do you get this stuff? I’ve been an Eagles fan for decades. How can that be? You literally seem to know nothing about this guy. You can't play in all but two games in three years and be injury prone. This is football every player is banged up and his production was really good for 3 years. He exactly played with a good amount of talent. The whole TE core on the superbowl team, its slot receiver. His first year they had Maclin and McCoy also. They also had Sproles. After Maclin left he was miscast as a true number one, he's a very good number two possession receiver. He can play inside and outside, which made him a perfect fit for our offense. It sucks that he had a significant hamstring injury. We have no one on the roster that can do what he could do. He would have been huge in the end zone for us. For a team that lost Amendola and Cooks we needed a good solid receiver like him. Now were stuck with Britt and Patterson who are outside guys, which isn't a huge need with Hogan. Not with this offense. For us Patriot fans this sucks. Edleman is out first 4 games, Mitchell is on the trade block because his knees are shot, and now the guy that looked poised to be our #3 receiver just got seriously injured. This is a huge blow for this team. |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2018 6:42:30 GMT -5
Dec 14, 2017 Matthews had surgery to repair a right ankle injury that originated sometime in 2016. He said doctors removed a ping-pong ball-sized bone from the ankle.
Dec 14, 2017 Matthews had December surgery to repair an unspecified left knee injury that he said had nagged him for 2 years. He missed the season's final 4 games as well as Week 11.
These are the kinds of things he has dealt with and it affected his performance quite a bit. I read about his knee and ankle continually. He is not good enough of an athlete to overcome performance hits.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 2, 2018 12:34:06 GMT -5
Glad they added Decker, provides some stability. He can possibly fill the Amendola role
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 2, 2018 17:46:21 GMT -5
Dec 14, 2017 Matthews had surgery to repair a right ankle injury that originated sometime in 2016. He said doctors removed a ping-pong ball-sized bone from the ankle. Dec 14, 2017 Matthews had December surgery to repair an unspecified left knee injury that he said had nagged him for 2 years. He missed the season's final 4 games as well as Week 11. These are the kinds of things he has dealt with and it affected his performance quite a bit. I read about his knee and ankle continually. He is not good enough of an athlete to overcome performance hits. The two years prior to those surgeries he put up 85 receptions 997 yeards 8 touchdowns and 73 receptions 804 yards 3 touchdowns. If injuries were affecting his performance than this is a bigger loss than I thought. In 2017 injuries were an issue, but so was the horrible Bills offense. He doesn't fit in an offense like that, not even close. |
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