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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 24, 2018 13:42:07 GMT -5
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Post by Coreno on Mar 24, 2018 13:59:37 GMT -5
Kind of interesting move for Arizona considering they already have a Deven Marrero named Nick Ahmed
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 24, 2018 17:00:32 GMT -5
Is Ahmed starting though? I think the plan was to have Ahmed start and use Owings as a super-utility type, so having a backup defensive ace might make sense in that case.
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Post by bosox on Mar 24, 2018 18:14:24 GMT -5
Is Ahmed starting though? I think the plan was to have Ahmed start and use Owings as a super-utility type, so having a backup defensive ace might make sense in that case. While Souza is out, I believe their plan now is to use Owings in the OF so Marrero will become the utility guy. |
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Post by michael on Mar 24, 2018 19:22:48 GMT -5
I am immediately reminded of a local team's press coverage: "D'Backs aquire former first round draft pick!"
Glad for Marrero.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 24, 2018 23:43:50 GMT -5
The Sox feel comfortable with leaving Devers at third base without a defensive replacement. Good on them. I hate taking out one of your best players defensively for defense late in games and I believe that Devers is indeed one of the Sox best players at the age of 21.
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 25, 2018 15:10:46 GMT -5
Is Ahmed starting though? I think the plan was to have Ahmed start and use Owings as a super-utility type, so having a backup defensive ace might make sense in that case. While Souza is out, I believe their plan now is to use Owings in the OF so Marrero will become the utility guy. Yeah, I'd missed Souza getting hurt entirely, so this makes even more sense. |
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Post by m1keyboots on Mar 26, 2018 12:17:42 GMT -5
Deven Marrero you will be missed.
Many of us will remember how you came in and shored up a third base that looked like that of the local industrial league team. Your solid, and sometimes spectacular defense combined with the 6 productive days at the plate will never be forgotten.
May you find a better go of it with National League pitching, and I wish you a long-term job found in Arizona.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 8:38:02 GMT -5
Not surprised, but slightly disappointed. I was kinda hoping they'd give him another chance.
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Post by jimmydugan on Apr 15, 2018 19:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 15, 2018 20:07:42 GMT -5
Marrero OPS is below .400
Brentz OPS is below .400 in AAA
Taylor cleared waivers and has 5.00 ERA in AAA
Owens is on AA DL. Hasn't pitched
Sox made the right call on this foursome
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 19, 2018 10:59:23 GMT -5
Marrero OPS is below .400 Brentz OPS is below .400 in AAA Taylor cleared waivers and has 5.00 ERA in AAA Owens is on AA DL. Hasn't pitched Sox made the right call on this foursome Since this post, Ben Taylor has faced exactly six batters at Triple-A, as Columbus beat the PawSox 2-0, and now his stats are good. 26 batters faced, 10 K's, 3 BB, 3 H, 3 R. You said cutting a guy was the "right call" after he'd faced 20 batters. Okay. |
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 19, 2018 16:37:01 GMT -5
Marrero OPS is below .400 Brentz OPS is below .400 in AAA Taylor cleared waivers and has 5.00 ERA in AAA Owens is on AA DL. Hasn't pitched Sox made the right call on this foursome Since this post, Ben Taylor has faced exactly six batters at Triple-A, as Columbus beat the PawSox 2-0, and now his stats are good. 26 batters faced, 10 K's, 3 BB, 3 H, 3 R. You said cutting a guy was the "right call" after he'd faced 20 batters. Okay. On the evening of April 15, 1991, rookie Jeff Bagwell was hitting .143 / .217 / .286 in 24 PA over 6 G. And, yeah, that was the first guy I looked up. |
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 19, 2018 21:07:39 GMT -5
Marrero OPS is below .400 Brentz OPS is below .400 in AAA Taylor cleared waivers and has 5.00 ERA in AAA Owens is on AA DL. Hasn't pitched Sox made the right call on this foursome Since this post, Ben Taylor has faced exactly six batters at Triple-A, as Columbus beat the PawSox 2-0, and now his stats are good. 26 batters faced, 10 K's, 3 BB, 3 H, 3 R. You said cutting a guy was the "right call" after he'd faced 20 batters. Okay. Taylor is awesome. Sox neglected to claim him on waivers Gotta wait til Nov '21 for mlfa to get him back Edit: make him a Rule 5 target this December |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 8:03:37 GMT -5
Since this post, Ben Taylor has faced exactly six batters at Triple-A, as Columbus beat the PawSox 2-0, and now his stats are good. 26 batters faced, 10 K's, 3 BB, 3 H, 3 R. You said cutting a guy was the "right call" after he'd faced 20 batters. Okay. Taylor is awesome. Sox neglected to claim him on waivers Gotta wait til Nov '21 for mlfa to get him back Edit: make him a Rule 5 target this December I'm surprised the Red Sox got rid of Taylor in front of Jerez or Shepherd. At this point, I would wait for rule 5 rather than trade for him back. I would trade Diaz and Baldwin for Marrero back though. |
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 20, 2018 8:05:55 GMT -5
Taylor is awesome. Sox neglected to claim him on waivers Gotta wait til Nov '21 for mlfa to get him back Edit: make him a Rule 5 target this December I'm surprised the Red Sox got rid of Taylor in front of Jerez or Shepherd. At this point, I would wait for rule 5 rather than trade for him back. I would trade Diaz and Baldwin for Marrero back though. No. Why trade two prospects for a guy you really don’t need? Lin is a more than adequate replacement for Marrero. That’s an overpay either way. |
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 20, 2018 8:10:51 GMT -5
Edit: make him a Rule 5 target this December In what would have been his first option year had they not pushed him onto the roster unnecessarily. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 8:37:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised the Red Sox got rid of Taylor in front of Jerez or Shepherd. At this point, I would wait for rule 5 rather than trade for him back. I would trade Diaz and Baldwin for Marrero back though. No. Why trade two prospects for a guy you really don’t need? Lin is a more than adequate replacement for Marrero. That’s an overpay either way. I just don't see either of them being more than emergency players. And for clarity, I mean Jhonathan Diaz. Also, this probably wouldn't happen given they just traded him there. |
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 20, 2018 8:42:00 GMT -5
No. Why trade two prospects for a guy you really don’t need? Lin is a more than adequate replacement for Marrero. That’s an overpay either way. I just don't see either of them being more than emergency players. And for clarity, I mean Jhonathan Diaz. Diaz you could possibly sell me on. But it’s a tough sell. Why trade a top-30 prospect with starting potential for a bench player that can’t hit? Baldwin is a definite no-go. He’s the best, and arguably only, catching prospect we have in th system right now. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 20, 2018 8:43:46 GMT -5
They aren't going to trade for a guy they just traded that would have to be DFA'd as soon as Xander and Pedroia are back. This is just a bizarre thread at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 8:46:42 GMT -5
I just don't see either of them being more than emergency players. And for clarity, I mean Jhonathan Diaz. Diaz you could possibly sell me on. But it’s a tough sell. Why trade a top-30 prospect with starting potential for a bench player that can’t hit? Baldwin is a definite no-go. He’s the best, and arguably only, catching prospect we have in th system right now. True on Baldwin, that convinces me. Also, I was thinking of him as a late inning defensive replacement for Devers, whose defense has been sloppy, but I guess Holt could do that. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 20, 2018 8:57:47 GMT -5
Diaz you could possibly sell me on. But it’s a tough sell. Why trade a top-30 prospect with starting potential for a bench player that can’t hit? Baldwin is a definite no-go. He’s the best, and arguably only, catching prospect we have in th system right now. True on Baldwin, that convinces me. Also, I was thinking of him as a late inning defensive replacement for Devers, whose defense has been sloppy, but I guess Holt could do that. Devers has been great defensively this year. He's not getting taken out of any games unless it's for rest in blowouts. And they DO NOT have a roster spot for Marrero, which is why he was traded in the first place. |
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 20, 2018 9:10:27 GMT -5
True on Baldwin, that convinces me. Also, I was thinking of him as a late inning defensive replacement for Devers, whose defense has been sloppy, but I guess Holt could do that. Devers has been great defensively this year. He's not getting taken out of any games unless it's for rest in blowouts. And they DO NOT have a roster spot for Marrero, which is why he was traded in the first place. Maybe it’s nit picky, but can you be great defensively while also leading the league in errors? Not saying that Devers is bad or should be taken out, but I think great is a stretch. He will be great. Just not yet, too inexperienced. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 20, 2018 9:26:17 GMT -5
Devers has been great defensively this year. He's not getting taken out of any games unless it's for rest in blowouts. And they DO NOT have a roster spot for Marrero, which is why he was traded in the first place. Maybe it’s nit picky, but can you be great defensively while also leading the league in errors? Not saying that Devers is bad or should be taken out, but I think great is a stretch. He will be great. Just not yet, too inexperienced. Adrian Beltre led the NL in errors once early in his career, so yeah. Great but prone to mistakes? Probably depends on how you want to define "great." And yeah, I'm failing to see why on earth they would even want Marrero for free right now. Lin is better. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 20, 2018 9:41:36 GMT -5
Devers has been great defensively this year. He's not getting taken out of any games unless it's for rest in blowouts. And they DO NOT have a roster spot for Marrero, which is why he was traded in the first place. Maybe it’s nit picky, but can you be great defensively while also leading the league in errors? Not saying that Devers is bad or should be taken out, but I think great is a stretch. He will be great. Just not yet, too inexperienced. Yes, you can be great while leading the league in errors if you have higher than average range like Devers has. Maybe great is stretching it, but I kinda meant great for Devers compared to last year. Both Fangraphs and B-Ref rate him as above average overall. And yeah it's early and those stats have not stabilized but watching him play matches that rating for me. Errors is a counting stat and pretty worthless. Is David Price a better 3B than Devers because he has 4 fewer errors at 3B? |
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