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2018 Minor League Rosters
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 2, 2018 16:41:45 GMT -5
One hell of an interesting Salem rotation there with Groome, Mata, Houck and Darwinzon Hernandez. Jake Thompson is interesting as well. Yeah that would be insane. That could literally be half of our system's top 10 a couple months into the year.....and probably no worse than 1/3 of our top 15! It's already 3 of our top 4! And a lot of people probably expect Hernandez (#11) to jump quickly.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 2, 2018 16:51:02 GMT -5
I'm not on board with the Groome and Raudes placement. I like Raudes but has he done enough to get to Portland? That could be too aggressive and if Groome, who hasn't done enough to warrant Salem, wasn't in Salem their would be room for Raudes in Salem. Too aggressive IMO. Hopefully I am proven wrong and they both succeed!
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Post by ramireja on Apr 2, 2018 17:26:54 GMT -5
I'm not on board with the Groome and Raudes placement. I like Raudes but has he done enough to get to Portland? That could be too aggressive and if Groome, who hasn't done enough to warrant Salem, wasn't in Salem their would be room for Raudes in Salem. Too aggressive IMO. Hopefully I am proven wrong and they both succeed! Not arguing with you, because I think it seems a tad aggressive too. That said, I tend to think the placements may have to do with how they looked this Spring....both Raudes and Groome seemingly looked pretty solid this spring compared to where they were each at last year.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 2, 2018 18:40:22 GMT -5
I'm not on board with the Groome and Raudes placement. I like Raudes but has he done enough to get to Portland? That could be too aggressive and if Groome, who hasn't done enough to warrant Salem, wasn't in Salem their would be room for Raudes in Salem. Too aggressive IMO. Hopefully I am proven wrong and they both succeed! Not arguing with you, because I think it seems a tad aggressive too. That said, I tend to think the placements may have to do with how they looked this Spring....both Raudes and Groome seemingly looked pretty solid this spring compared to where they were each at last year. I was thinking the same thing as it is the only thing that makes sense, based on last years results it doesn't make sense. Which is great news especially for Raudes who is a bit of a wildcard IMO, cruising thru the minors as a 250k Int signing.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 2, 2018 20:09:36 GMT -5
To be fair, the only two of those five I'm confident are in that rotation are Houck and Hernandez.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 3, 2018 9:23:58 GMT -5
I'm not on board with the Groome and Raudes placement. I like Raudes but has he done enough to get to Portland? That could be too aggressive and if Groome, who hasn't done enough to warrant Salem, wasn't in Salem their would be room for Raudes in Salem. Too aggressive IMO. Hopefully I am proven wrong and they both succeed! Not arguing with you, because I think it seems a tad aggressive too. That said, I tend to think the placements may have to do with how they looked this Spring....both Raudes and Groome seemingly looked pretty solid this spring compared to where they were each at last year. VoR, I'd have agreed with you on March 22. Put another way, based on what I saw a week ago today, I'm very surprised Houck is going to Salem. Comparatively, Groome looked much better, so in that context, yeah, it makes sense to send him to Salem. I'll just say that the one thing I'm most confident in is Groome is likely not on Greenville's opening day roster. Given that, I'd say it's more likely he's in Salem based on how great he looked than that he's starting in extended. Make sense? EDIT: Another way to think of it - we're used to the Sox developing pitchers a certain way over the years. Look at where that's gotten them. Might as well try something new, right? We know this regime is very aggressive (see Espinoza/Raudes, then Mata a year later, being assigned to Greenville at super young ages). The projected Salem rotation fits that. Gun to my head, if anyone of those 5 in Salem is likely to start in XST instead, I'd put the best odds on Thompson. Was clearly working through some new stuff when we saw him on Sunday.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 3, 2018 10:29:57 GMT -5
Mata and Thompson appear to be in Salem, per Salem's Instagram.
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 3, 2018 10:33:09 GMT -5
Other minor league organizations have been releasing opening day rosters over the past week. I’m more excited for minor league opening day than Boston’s so this is maddening.
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 3, 2018 11:57:00 GMT -5
Chavis, Lakins, Monge, and Ockimey to start the year on the DL.
Getting their first taste of AA: Shawaryn, Hart, Kent, Lau, McGrath, Rei, Rivera, and Matheny.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 3, 2018 11:58:04 GMT -5
Sea Dogs Roster announced (via portlandseadogs.com)
PITCHERS (13 + 1 DL): Trey Ball, Jake Cosart, Kyle Hart, Dedgar Jimenez, Trevor Kelley, Matt Kent, Travis Lakins (DL), Adam Lau, Kevin McAvoy, Daniel McGrath, Yankory Pimentel, Mike Shawaryn, Josh Smith, Teddy Stankiewicz.
CATCHERS (2): Jordan Procyshen, Austin Rei.
INFIELDERS (7 + 2 DL): Jordan Betts, Michael Chavis (DL), Conrad Gregor, Nick Lovullo, Josh Ockimey (DL), Mike Olt, Esteban Quiroz, Jeremy Rivera, Josh Tobias.
OUTFIELDERS (4 +1 DL): Danny Mars, Tate Matheny, Joseph Monge (DL), Cole Sturgeon, Luke Tendler.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 3, 2018 12:10:54 GMT -5
Observations on Sea Dogs: Another AA year for Stankiewicz, hopefully he can pitch more to his 2017 FIP (3.87) than is 2017 ERA (5.03). Would have liked them to be more aggressive with Cosart and get him to AAA, but I think that's more on the depth in Pawtucket. Excited to see what Kyle Hart can do vs advanced comp. Lakins on the DL AGAIN. Would have thought Olt in AAA, but no spot for him. ALso would have thought Quiroz in AAA and De La Guerra in AA, but they seem pretty high on Chad. I think Mars and Sturgeon will spend more time in AAA than AA this year (Tavarez always an injury risk and I don;t know who the bench OF is, Flores maybe?).
Some likely major leaguers regulars in there (Chavis, Ockimey, Shawaryn), releivers (Ball, Cosart) and a few fringey-depth types (Mars, Sturgeon, Quiroz, Tobias), but outside of Chavis not much star power, and Chavis would hopefully be up in AAA in a couple months. And not likely any big name Salem guys coming to AA unless they get really aggressive or dominate (Houck, Groome, Mata, Dalbec, Netzer).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 3, 2018 12:22:35 GMT -5
FWIW, our Salem projection will be changing, obviously, this afternoon. Raudes will be in the rotation. Groome will not.
And to answer the question that begs, no, we don't know either.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 3, 2018 12:24:45 GMT -5
Observations on Sea Dogs: Another AA year for Stankiewicz, hopefully he can pitch more to his 2017 FIP (3.87) than is 2017 ERA (5.03). Would have liked them to be more aggressive with Cosart and get him to AAA, but I think that's more on the depth in Pawtucket. Excited to see what Kyle Hart can do vs advanced comp. Lakins on the DL AGAIN. Would have thought Olt in AAA, but no spot for him. ALso would have thought Quiroz in AAA and De La Guerra in AA, but they seem pretty high on Chad. I think Mars and Sturgeon will spend more time in AAA than AA this year (Tavarez always an injury risk and I don;t know who the bench OF is, Flores maybe?). Some likely major leaguers regulars in there (Chavis, Ockimey, Shawaryn), releivers (Ball, Cosart) and a few fringey-depth types (Mars, Sturgeon, Quiroz, Tobias), but outside of Chavis not much star power, and Chavis would hopefully be up in AAA in a couple months. And not likely any big name Salem guys coming to AA unless they get really aggressive or dominate (Houck, Groome, Mata, Dalbec, Netzer). Lakins is rehabbing the same elbow injury that ended his 2017 season, so I don't think it's necessarily fair to say "again" so much as be disappointed that it's not an injury that healed over the offseason. He shouldn't be long though, I wouldn't think, as he was participating in PFPs and such as far as I saw (did you see the same, Brian?). No idea what the deal is with Ockimey. Was healthy last we saw - he at least took BP last Tuesday morning, although come to think of it, he didn't play in the games that afternoon. Brian, did you see anything? As for the Pawtucket outfield, you have Barfield-Castillo-Tavarez-Flores, plus Lin and Travis getting time out there, so that's a pretty full group.
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Post by borisman on Apr 3, 2018 13:18:20 GMT -5
Is it Thursday yet? Let's get this season started!
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 3, 2018 14:00:40 GMT -5
Doesn't Porland's stadium have about 10 feet of snow on it?
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 3, 2018 14:07:05 GMT -5
Interesting thought with Ockimey starting on the DL. That moved Conrad Gregor up to Portland for the time being. Mike Olt is probably gonna be the backup. Gregor was gonna be the starter in Salem, so Jerry Downs will probably slide into that role. So the big question is who else is there to back him up? The next three 1B are Pedro Castellanos (barely touched Greenville), Trey Ganns (only has played in the GCL), and Zach Sterry (only played at Lowell). Maybe some Victor Acosta?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 3, 2018 14:29:36 GMT -5
Interesting thought with Ockimey starting on the DL. That moved Conrad Gregor up to Portland for the time being. Mike Olt is probably gonna be the backup. Gregor was gonna be the starter in Salem, so Jerry Downs will probably slide into that role. So the big question is who else is there to back him up? The next three 1B are Pedro Castellanos (barely touched Greenville), Trey Ganns (only has played in the GCL), and Zach Sterry (only played at Lowell). Maybe some Victor Acosta? Eddy Reynoso has played 1B. Our projections are now at www.soxprospects.com/org.htm We're pretty confident in them at this point, save a small change here or there.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 3, 2018 14:42:36 GMT -5
Observations on Sea Dogs: Another AA year for Stankiewicz, hopefully he can pitch more to his 2017 FIP (3.87) than is 2017 ERA (5.03). Would have liked them to be more aggressive with Cosart and get him to AAA, but I think that's more on the depth in Pawtucket. Excited to see what Kyle Hart can do vs advanced comp. Lakins on the DL AGAIN. Would have thought Olt in AAA, but no spot for him. ALso would have thought Quiroz in AAA and De La Guerra in AA, but they seem pretty high on Chad. I think Mars and Sturgeon will spend more time in AAA than AA this year (Tavarez always an injury risk and I don;t know who the bench OF is, Flores maybe?). Some likely major leaguers regulars in there (Chavis, Ockimey, Shawaryn), releivers (Ball, Cosart) and a few fringey-depth types (Mars, Sturgeon, Quiroz, Tobias), but outside of Chavis not much star power, and Chavis would hopefully be up in AAA in a couple months. And not likely any big name Salem guys coming to AA unless they get really aggressive or dominate (Houck, Groome, Mata, Dalbec, Netzer). Lakins is rehabbing the same elbow injury that ended his 2017 season, so I don't think it's necessarily fair to say "again" so much as be disappointed that it's not an injury that healed over the offseason. He shouldn't be long though, I wouldn't think, as he was participating in PFPs and such as far as I saw (did you see the same, Brian?). No idea what the deal is with Ockimey. Was healthy last we saw - he at least took BP last Tuesday morning, although come to think of it, he didn't play in the games that afternoon. Brian, did you see anything? As for the Pawtucket outfield, you have Barfield-Castillo-Tavarez-Flores, plus Lin and Travis getting time out there, so that's a pretty full group. Good point on Lakins, I should have used "still", it just felt like "again" when I was writing it. Didn't see Lakins pitch at all obviously, but he was participating in PFP's and fielding BP with the rest of the pitchers. I thought he threw a pen, as I saw him come in early off the fields with a coach one morning (which is the usual for pitchers who do PFP's, throw a pen, and then skip BP), but I may be confusing him with someone else. Also last I saw of Ockimey he was taking BP on the big league side for that Monday night game with the Cubs that he played in.
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 3, 2018 14:45:41 GMT -5
Interesting thought with Ockimey starting on the DL. That moved Conrad Gregor up to Portland for the time being. Mike Olt is probably gonna be the backup. Gregor was gonna be the starter in Salem, so Jerry Downs will probably slide into that role. So the big question is who else is there to back him up? The next three 1B are Pedro Castellanos (barely touched Greenville), Trey Ganns (only has played in the GCL), and Zach Sterry (only played at Lowell). Maybe some Victor Acosta? Eddy Reynoso has played 1B. Our projections are now at www.soxprospects.com/org.htm We're pretty confident in them at this point, save a small change here or there. Did not know Reynoso plays 1B too.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 3, 2018 14:53:09 GMT -5
Also notes that Roldani Baldwin will be out a couple weeks with a thumb injury.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 3, 2018 14:54:00 GMT -5
Eddy Reynoso has played 1B. Our projections are now at www.soxprospects.com/org.htm We're pretty confident in them at this point, save a small change here or there. Did not know Reynoso plays 1B too. Speier just said Ockimey's injury is minor. Likely he pushes Gregor down to Salem once healthy.
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Post by borisman on Apr 3, 2018 15:04:16 GMT -5
Doesn't Porland's stadium have about 10 feet of snow on it? It's a good thing they start the season on the road.
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Post by sittingstill on Apr 3, 2018 15:37:50 GMT -5
No snow! No green grass either, but no snow!
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 3, 2018 16:06:45 GMT -5
Salem's roster is posted: www.milb.com/salem-red-sox/news/salem-red-sox-opening-day-roster-brings-the-heat/c-270654666Catchers: Jhon Nunez, Nick Sciortino IF: Bobby Dalbec, Jerry Downs, Santiago Espinal, Brett Netzer, Carlos Tovar OF: Tyler Hill, Trenton Kemp, Chris Madera, Ryan Scott, Kyri Washington P: Daniel Gonzalez, Matthew Gorst, Darwinson Hernandez, Tanner Houck, Algenis Martinez, Joan Martinez, Bryan Mata, Jared Oliver, Roniel Raudes, Hildemaro Requena, Hunter Smith, Jake Thompson, Jordan Weems DL: Eddy Reynoso, Roldani Baldwin, Austin Glorius
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Post by ramireja on Apr 3, 2018 16:13:57 GMT -5
Salem's roster is posted: www.milb.com/salem-red-sox/news/salem-red-sox-opening-day-roster-brings-the-heat/c-270654666Catchers: Jhon Nunez, Nick Sciortino IF: Bobby Dalbec, Jerry Downs, Santiago Espinal, Brett Netzer, Carlos Tovar OF: Tyler Hill, Trenton Kemp, Chris Madera, Ryan Scott, Kyri Washington P: Daniel Gonzalez, Matthew Gorst, Darwinson Hernandez, Tanner Houck, Algenis Martinez, Joan Martinez, Bryan Mata, Jared Oliver, Roniel Raudes, Hildemaro Requena, Hunter Smith, Jake Thompson, Jordan Weems DL: Eddy Reynoso, Roldani Baldwin, Austin Glorius No Groome, but that rotation is still stacked (and could feature Groome real soon). Where is Lorenzo Cedrola though?
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