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4/10-4/12 Red Sox vs. Yankees Series Thread
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 11, 2018 11:49:14 GMT -5
The big story this year for me is David Price looks like David Price. Which I was really worried about. Maybe he does have a special elbow after all.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 11, 2018 12:00:39 GMT -5
So they're saying Pedroia should be ready by early May. It will be interesting to see how they get everyone playing time. Swihart and Holt are barely being used as it is. I imagine Holt would get optioned. (after Bogaerts is back and Lin sent back down)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 11, 2018 12:13:51 GMT -5
So they're saying Pedroia should be ready by early May. It will be interesting to see how they get everyone playing time. Swihart and Holt are barely being used as it is. I imagine Holt would get optioned. (after Bogaerts is back and Lin sent back down) Link? I haven't seen that at all.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 11, 2018 12:14:00 GMT -5
I honestly could see Swihart getting dealt for a PTBNL or one of those high-upside lottery ticket types who is Rule 5 eligible (someone else's Gerson Bautista, basically). I'd like to keep him because I still think he can play, but I also don't know that hoarding him is doing a whole lot of good. I'd be happy to be wrong on this one.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 11, 2018 12:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 11, 2018 12:20:04 GMT -5
I honestly could see Swihart getting dealt for a PTBNL or one of those high-upside lottery ticket types who is Rule 5 eligible (someone else's Gerson Bautista, basically). I'd like to keep him because I still think he can play, but I also don't know that hoarding him is doing a whole lot of good. I'd be happy to be wrong on this one. I don't think he's going to get enough playing time without multiple injuries or if they move on from Leon. He's almost in the Chase d'Arnaud role now. I hope they start giving Holt, Nunez and Swihart more time in LF instead of JDM at some point. I'd rather move on from Holt instead of Swihart. And given that they have Nunez and Lin, they don't need Holt as much.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 11, 2018 12:22:03 GMT -5
OK, so nothing new. The statement in there is that's what they've "long been eyeing," and it's Mastrodonato's statement that he's on track for that. He's going to Fort Myers next Tuesday to continue his rehab but won't even be playing in XST games yet. I'm inclined to think mid-May is a more reasonable projection, but "early May" and "mid-May" are pretty squishy terms, so that's probably just semantics. For example, I wouldn't say "early" meaning, say, the 10th, but perhaps others would. At any rate, I can't imagine he doesn't take a least 4 weeks before he's ready, if not 5 or 6.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 11, 2018 12:25:21 GMT -5
OK, so nothing new. The statement in there is that's what they've "long been eyeing," and it's Mastrodonato's statement that he's on track for that. He's going to Fort Myers next Tuesday to continue his rehab but won't even be playing in XST games yet. I'm inclined to think mid-May is a more reasonable projection, but "early May" and "mid-May" are pretty squishy terms, so that's probably just semantics. For example, I wouldn't say "early" meaning, say, the 10th, but perhaps others would. At any rate, I can't imagine he doesn't take a least 4 weeks before he's ready, if not 5 or 6. And if you read that article, it sounds like they're going to be extra cautious with his return and that his focus is now on remaining healthy for this year and for the rest of his career. It's a good shift for him, especially since the team has an excellent bench.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 11, 2018 12:52:14 GMT -5
Excellent game. Can't do much better than that! Taking advantage of the Yankees while they're in a bad way. Hope the Sox continue to kick them when they're down.
Hell, I hope they kick them even if they're up (now it's starting to sound like a Don Henley song). Just kick the MFYs.
Also, curious here, not able to access the Speier article about Ortiz helping out Betts. Can somebody paraphrase that article for me? How did Big Papi help Mookie out?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 11, 2018 12:55:42 GMT -5
I'm more worried about Game 3 of the series with homerun prone Porcello going for this team. Will we see if his homerun problems are fixed after this game or not.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 11, 2018 12:58:15 GMT -5
OK, so nothing new. The statement in there is that's what they've "long been eyeing," and it's Mastrodonato's statement that he's on track for that. He's going to Fort Myers next Tuesday to continue his rehab but won't even be playing in XST games yet. I'm inclined to think mid-May is a more reasonable projection, but "early May" and "mid-May" are pretty squishy terms, so that's probably just semantics. For example, I wouldn't say "early" meaning, say, the 10th, but perhaps others would. At any rate, I can't imagine he doesn't take a least 4 weeks before he's ready, if not 5 or 6. And if you read that article, it sounds like they're going to be extra cautious with his return and that his focus is now on remaining healthy for this year and for the rest of his career. It's a good shift for him, especially since the team has an excellent bench. Yeah, I'd seen Cora's comments in other articles, and there had been no mention of May. That's why I was asking where early May was from.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 11, 2018 13:03:55 GMT -5
Excellent game. Can't do much better than that! Taking advantage of the Yankees while they're in a bad way. Hope the Sox continue to kick them when they're down. Hell, I hope they kick them even if they're up (now it's starting to sound like a Don Henley song). Just kick the MFYs. Also, curious here, not able to access the Speier article about Ortiz helping out Betts. Can somebody paraphrase that article for me? How did Big Papi help Mookie out? “The main person that helped me with [correcting the stride] was Ortiz. He’s actually the No. 1 person who helped with that,” said Betts. “He came in, sat me down, and it was kind of like overnight, I think.” Mookie's feet were too far apart last year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 13:33:29 GMT -5
So they're saying Pedroia should be ready by early May. It will be interesting to see how they get everyone playing time. Swihart and Holt are barely being used as it is. I imagine Holt would get optioned. (after Bogaerts is back and Lin sent back down) I’m looking forward to his return. We know he’s a massive upgrade defensively. If he’s healthy, I think there’s still some life in the bat as well.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 11, 2018 14:09:59 GMT -5
Holt shouldn't be in the line-up. Cold night, two very good starters, odds are high that this should be a low scoring game. If so defense will be even more valuable. So it's still a half a Farrell move. When I said in the Xander injury thread that Lin would likely get most of the starts at SS, I almost added that I expected Holt to get the start tonight. Greatest rivalry in sports, national TV game, kid just called up, veteran who's been anticipating a possible start since X got hurt, a pitcher who gave up the 9th fewest GB/BFP of 153 SP last year (80 IP as a starter minimum) ... the marginal talent upgrade doesn't offset the unique psychological factors. I had no problem with it. Meanwhile, back to the immobile, short-armed but crafty hirsute veteran: Red Sox lineup: Betts RF, Devers 3B, Ramirez DH, Martinez LF, Moreland 1B, Núñez 2B, Bradley Jr. CF, Vázquez C, Holt SS, Price LHP.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 11, 2018 14:16:10 GMT -5
Martinez back in LF too. Defense looks real shaky for tonight's game.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 11, 2018 14:24:51 GMT -5
I will say though, I like that Cora is seeming to treat Vazquez like a primary catcher this season. He's treating Leon like a true backup catcher. I'd say it feels like Vazquez is projected to start 70-75 percent of the starts this year with Leon starting 20 percent and Swihart maybe playing the rest.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 11, 2018 14:38:51 GMT -5
I will say though, I like that Cora is seeming to treat Vazquez like a primary catcher this season. He's treating Leon like a true backup catcher. I'd say it feels like Vazquez is projected to start 70-75 percent of the starts this year with Leon starting 20 percent and Swihart maybe playing the rest. They are wasting a perfectly good Swihart if he's not catching twice a week and playing somewhere else on the diamond once a week.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 11, 2018 14:49:24 GMT -5
I will say though, I like that Cora is seeming to treat Vazquez like a primary catcher this season. He's treating Leon like a true backup catcher. I'd say it feels like Vazquez is projected to start 70-75 percent of the starts this year with Leon starting 20 percent and Swihart maybe playing the rest. They are wasting a perfectly good Swihart if he's not catching twice a week and playing somewhere else on the diamond once a week. I don't think that is a main concern for the Sox though, wasting Swihart. They probably view him as the 25th man on the roster at this point.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 11, 2018 14:55:08 GMT -5
Cora playing JD. Benny was excellent last night. Rather not see it. Honestly, I hope to read that he is putting overtime for fielding practice. Otherwise, harshistic posts will come out on defensive miscues.
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Post by semperfisox on Apr 11, 2018 15:09:43 GMT -5
Ugh. Not liking how Cora has been resting players so early. Gives Mookie a day off when he was raking and there were 2 off days upcoming. Now Benny when he’s getting hot.
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Post by soxfando on Apr 11, 2018 15:23:00 GMT -5
I will say though, I like that Cora is seeming to treat Vazquez like a primary catcher this season. He's treating Leon like a true backup catcher. I'd say it feels like Vazquez is projected to start 70-75 percent of the starts this year with Leon starting 20 percent and Swihart maybe playing the rest. They are wasting a perfectly good Swihart if he's not catching twice a week and playing somewhere else on the diamond once a week. Swihart didn’t really look like a viable catcher last year, and honestly hasn’t hit well since 2014 in AA.
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Post by soxfando on Apr 11, 2018 15:27:45 GMT -5
Ugh. Not liking how Cora has been resting players so early. Gives Mookie a day off when he was raking and there were 2 off days upcoming. Now Benny when he’s getting hot. not ideal to have JD in left, but looking at Beni’s game logs his hot streak has a lot of rest days in it, so maybe Cora’s on to something here
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Post by Guidas on Apr 11, 2018 16:23:26 GMT -5
I honestly could see Swihart getting dealt for a PTBNL or one of those high-upside lottery ticket types who is Rule 5 eligible (someone else's Gerson Bautista, basically). I'd like to keep him because I still think he can play, but I also don't know that hoarding him is doing a whole lot of good. I'd be happy to be wrong on this one. I don't think he's going to get enough playing time without multiple injuries or if they move on from Leon. He's almost in the Chase d'Arnaud role now. I hope they start giving Holt, Nunez and Swihart more time in LF instead of JDM at some point. I'd rather move on from Holt instead of Swihart. And given that they have Nunez and Lin, they don't need Holt as much. Sadly, I think Holt is still damaged from his concussion. I’m not a physican and obviously have not examined him, but I’ve had four of them and I was an athlete playing at a high level for the first three. I passed all tests afterwards each time, But these tests and demonstrating one can perform previous tasks without immediately visible decline or side effects doesn’t mean neural function or acuity is exactly the same as before. This can be especially acute when we are talking about high level processing tasks performed in extremely short time intervals. Such a minuscule processing task would include pitch location/recognition within 0.4 of a second window (about the amount of time a batter has to recognize a ball thrown at 92 miles per hour, it’s path, and make a decision to swing or not). Even a decline of say .005 seconds in that processing task - which would be unnoticable by any test, and inconsequential in the vast bulk of tasks performed by an individual - becomes significant when trying to hit an MLB pitch. I’m probably experiencing a bit of confirmation bias when I watch him, but he still seems a bit off when I watch him at the plate. Then again, it’s April and that could be said for a lot of guys. Still, I would’ve dealt him before Marrero,. I also think Lin could be better than Holt was at his peak, because of his speed, range and revamped swing
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 11, 2018 16:27:29 GMT -5
Ugh. Not liking how Cora has been resting players so early. Gives Mookie a day off when he was raking and there were 2 off days upcoming. Now Benny when he’s getting hot. Not liking these lineups, particularly putting Martinez in LF and sittting Beni. Putting Holt at SS is just plain dumb.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 11, 2018 16:41:35 GMT -5
Andrew Benintendi went 2-for-3 with a double, two walks and two RBI Tuesday night and he isn't in the Red Sox's lineup Wednesday night. What gives? Manager Alex Cora explained that he plans out his lineups 4-5 days in advance and tries not to deviate.... espn.com/espn/now?nowId…
Not a fan of this approach, but hopefully he’ll adjust. This is not a guy I rest against a divisional foe this early in the season unless I know he needs a rest - not because it was “scheduled.” He’s young, a plus contributor it’s early. Let him play.
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