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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 5, 2022 22:26:39 GMT -5
The arm is a killer too because it probably takes him out of RF in Fenway. The arm isn't the only thing. He's a left fielder. Pretty consistent on the reports we've gotten.
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Post by jkfer98 on May 6, 2022 6:55:55 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on May 6, 2022 7:16:16 GMT -5
I would’ve kept him in AAA to build his trade value because he’s not a starter on club with playoffs aspirations imo.
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Post by greenmonster on May 6, 2022 7:27:11 GMT -5
Any word on the corresponding move.....Kiké to the IL??
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on May 6, 2022 10:20:07 GMT -5
I would’ve kept him in AAA to build his trade value because he’s not a starter on club with playoffs aspirations imo. Sox aren't really looking like a team who has anyone in the outfield who should be a starter nor a team that has playoff aspirations. So in that case I feel like its a no brainer to bring the kid up and let him play. Lots of players struggle with their first call ups.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 6, 2022 10:29:37 GMT -5
I would’ve kept him in AAA to build his trade value because he’s not a starter on club with playoffs aspirations imo. Sox aren't really looking like a team who has anyone in the outfield who should be a starter nor a team that has playoff aspirations. So in that case I feel like its a no brainer to bring the kid up and let him play. Lots of players struggle with their first call ups. I agree with everything in this post and I'll also add, I don't really think Duran staying in AAA and mashing is going to help him build any more value anyway. He's shown he can put up good numbers in AAA. In order to help his value his next step is to show he can hack it in the majors.
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Post by cdj on May 6, 2022 10:35:39 GMT -5
I would’ve kept him in AAA to build his trade value because he’s not a starter on club with playoffs aspirations imo. Sox aren't really looking like a team who has anyone in the outfield who should be a starter nor a team that has playoff aspirations. So in that case I feel like its a no brainer to bring the kid up and let him play. Lots of players struggle with their first call ups. Exactly. If this is going to be a bridge year we might as well see what we got. He’s 25 so it’s not like he’s 22 or anything. If we let him rake in AAA I don’t think it changes his trade value all that much. I bet they could get a solid reliever for him right now. I’d much rather see if he can be an impact player at the big league level- the team could use that speed if they’re gonna have to manufacture runs.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on May 6, 2022 10:37:51 GMT -5
Sox aren't really looking like a team who has anyone in the outfield who should be a starter nor a team that has playoff aspirations. So in that case I feel like its a no brainer to bring the kid up and let him play. Lots of players struggle with their first call ups. I agree with everything in this post and I'll also add, I don't really think Duran staying in AAA and mashing is going to help him build any more value anyway. He's shown he can put up good numbers in AAA. In order to help his value his next step is to show he can hack it in the majors. They need to see who is really going to be part of the next core in Boston. Maybe Duran is and maybe he gets traded for someone like Montas. Who knows. The only thing for sure is there is literally nothing else for him to do in AAA except maybe make a MILB all star game in 2022.
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Post by James Dunne on May 6, 2022 11:09:55 GMT -5
It is funny how fast the shine comes off of new toys. Folks on here were accusing the Red Sox of service time manipulation when they kept him at the Alternate Training Site back in 2020. Duran's a pretty-good-if-flawed player who makes the current team better. He's not a finished product or whatever, but it's pretty rare that you have the luxury of waiting until a player is fully ready.
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Post by Guidas on May 6, 2022 12:00:21 GMT -5
Any word on the corresponding move.....Kiké to the IL?? Kiké to the Covid IL.
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Post by patford on May 6, 2022 13:38:59 GMT -5
It is funny how fast the shine comes off of new toys. Folks on here were accusing the Red Sox of service time manipulation when they kept him at the Alternate Training Site back in 2020. Duran's a pretty-good-if-flawed player who makes the current team better. He's not a finished product or whatever, but it's pretty rare that you have the luxury of waiting until a player is fully ready. Due to his age and the fact that over time he has tended to struggle and make adjustments as well as the lack of production from the Red Sox OF it's time to give him another look and see if he's figured something out. The answer will likely be known very quickly.
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Post by grandsalami on May 6, 2022 16:13:51 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on May 6, 2022 16:47:00 GMT -5
Did he say it in a leprechaun voice?
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Post by jdb on May 6, 2022 17:57:47 GMT -5
I’m excited to see what he can bring to the table. It’s obviously early but it looks like an opportunity to give him some ABs to either sink or swim.
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Post by TearsIn04 on May 7, 2022 11:11:47 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on May 7, 2022 11:28:30 GMT -5
Son of a… why?
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Post by greenmonster on May 7, 2022 11:51:11 GMT -5
You just can't make it up Literally sent down hours after the most exciting moment of this dreadful season
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Post by costpet on May 7, 2022 12:52:31 GMT -5
If they stink today, they should reconsider the Duran move. They should also consider bringing up Fitzgerald, too. Anything to spark some life.
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 7, 2022 13:04:05 GMT -5
If they stink today, they should reconsider the Duran move. They should also consider bringing up Fitzgerald, too. Anything to spark some life. I'd like to see Fitzgerald as well. The only problem is that they would have to put Franchy through waivers to make space and I don't think Bloom has given up on him yet. Keep in mind, they will soon need to make a spot for Arauz (likely Jaylin Davis).
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Post by soxinsf on May 7, 2022 13:21:54 GMT -5
If they stink today, they should reconsider the Duran move. They should also consider bringing up Fitzgerald, too. Anything to spark some life. I'd like to see Fitzgerald as well. The only problem is that they would have to put Franchy through waivers to make space and I don't think Bloom has given up on him yet. Keep in mind, they will soon need to make a spot for Arauz (likely Jaylin Davis). It is too early to call this a bridge year, but if things do not improve, then we should probably bring in a bunch of new guys and see if there is anything to write home about. Absent some kind of turnaround, this team has more holes to fill than players to fill them.
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Post by costpet on May 7, 2022 13:30:18 GMT -5
Frenchy hasn’t helped much. I would waver him and resign back to Woo Sox if he clears. I’d also consider sending Dalbec back down for a while until he straightens out. Bring Casas up for a taste too. Desperate times and all that. When you have nothing to lose, don’t do nothing.
If things continue we might be in a sell mode near the trade deadline. J.D. and Boggy will probably be dangled. If so, they’d better sign Devers.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on May 7, 2022 13:54:10 GMT -5
Last place after a month in is a tough pill to swallow. I don't have answers, other than to say to bring up the top prospects and let them perform. At this point, it's looking like a rebuilding year.
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 7, 2022 14:02:26 GMT -5
I'd like to see Fitzgerald as well. The only problem is that they would have to put Franchy through waivers to make space and I don't think Bloom has given up on him yet. Keep in mind, they will soon need to make a spot for Arauz (likely Jaylin Davis). It is too early to call this a bridge year, but if things do not improve, then we should probably bring in a bunch of new guys and see if there is anything to write home about. Absent some kind of turnaround, this team has more holes to fill than players to fill them. I'm sure you're mainly speaking out of frustration, but if theoretically they wanted to do this now, the main issues I see would be clearing the 40-man spots and eating salaries. Given the 40-man crunch, it would make sense to plan on more home-grown players for backup/bullpen roles next year, so adding them to the 40-man roster early wouldn't be horrible, but they need time to trade the current guys for prospects and salary relief (doesn't make sense to go over the lux tax this year if they aren't contending). Duran in LF/CF next year should be the plan regardless IMO.
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Post by soxinsf on May 7, 2022 15:39:45 GMT -5
It is too early to call this a bridge year, but if things do not improve, then we should probably bring in a bunch of new guys and see if there is anything to write home about. Absent some kind of turnaround, this team has more holes to fill than players to fill them. I'm sure you're mainly speaking out of frustration, but if theoretically they wanted to do this now, the main issues I see would be clearing the 40-man spots and eating salaries. Given the 40-man crunch, it would make sense to plan on more home-grown players for backup/bullpen roles next year, so adding them to the 40-man roster early wouldn't be horrible, but they need time to trade the current guys for prospects and salary relief (doesn't make sense to go as over the lux tax this year if they aren't contending). Duran in LF/CF next year should be the plan regardless IMO. Frustration. Disappointment. Anticipation. What if. It does not matter what you call it. The fact is that some parts of Sox thots have to be concerned with more than the next two weeks. The worse that things get, the more change and experimentation will happen. As for Duran as an automatic, I would love to see that play out this year, but that will only happen if there is reason to give up on Kiké or JBJ or both.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2022 0:59:04 GMT -5
Two things I Like
1) K-rate is 20%
2) He’s becoming more efficient as a base stealer.
Kids good at making adjustments
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