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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2018 21:17:34 GMT -5
Yankees won 4-0 behind Tanaka
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 24, 2018 21:18:18 GMT -5
Let's make a comeback here.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 24, 2018 21:31:19 GMT -5
I agree. It makes no makes to me to trade for a back of the roatation piece just to get a starter. If the Red Sox play .500 the rest of the way they'll win 101 games. That will also give you the best second place team in the history of MLB. You're talking about, what, like 11 more starts this season? Suppose they go with Brian Johnson to make those starts. If you make a trade, how many marginal wins do you get over starting Johnson in those games? Maybe 1? Maybe 0? Fangraphs projections have Johnson good for a 4.66-4.87 ERA the rest of the way; they project Fiers for 4.58-4.98. I.e., basically the same. Can they get a guy better than that?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 24, 2018 21:31:46 GMT -5
would be so cool if we won this game because the MFY's traded for Britton before he was to pitch tonight.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 24, 2018 21:33:12 GMT -5
I would very much like it if, by trading for Britton, the Yankees kept him out of this game and the Red Sox came back and won it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 24, 2018 21:35:26 GMT -5
That will also give you the best second place team in the history of MLB. You're talking about, what, like 11 more starts this season? Suppose they go with Brian Johnson to make those starts. If you make a trade, how many marginal wins do you get over starting Johnson in those games? Maybe 1? Maybe 0? Fangraphs projections have Johnson good for a 4.66-4.87 ERA the rest of the way; they project Fiers for 4.58-4.98. I.e., basically the same. Can they get a guy better than that? It's not Johnson that is the problem for the next 5 weeks.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 24, 2018 21:39:07 GMT -5
this is inning is amazing so far. not one damn hit out of the infield.
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Post by danredhawk on Jul 24, 2018 21:39:12 GMT -5
I agree. It makes no makes to me to trade for a back of the roatation piece just to get a starter. If the Red Sox play .500 the rest of the way they'll win 101 games. That will also give you the best second place team in the history of MLB. That's the point - they're NOT going to play .500 baseball the rest of the way. But if they did, they'd win 101 and the Yankees would have to go 37-26 just to match them (.587). If the Red Sox play a completely manageable 35-25 to finish the season, they'll win 106 games and the Yankees would need to play .667 (42-21) just to tie. Or the Sox might even play .696 ball like they have all season and bury the NYY... Yes, that IS good enough that I'm not even remotely interested in making a movie to bring in another back end starter who offers no real playoff upgrade and very very very little upgrade at all. They're in great shape for the rest of the regular season, as is, with Johnson, Velazquez, Beeks, Pomeranz and with recent better news on Rodriguez, to boot, and Wright potentially down the line... Unless they're going all in for a Syndergard or DeGrom type to pair with Sale in the playoffs (which they likely couldn't pull off even if they wanted to) than there is NO need. Adding a starter is not in their top three needs moving forward. It just isn't. The sky is not falling just because Pomeranz was shaky tonight. He's been shaky all season and they're 40 games over .500...
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2018 21:39:33 GMT -5
Nice hustle Devers!!!!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 24, 2018 21:41:34 GMT -5
Come on Baby !!!!
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2018 21:42:06 GMT -5
Nice. Four pitch walk to Swihart. The irony is that because of the Yankees the os aren’t using Britton. The Yankees would actually want Britton to pitch here.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 24, 2018 21:42:33 GMT -5
Yes!!!!!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 24, 2018 21:42:33 GMT -5
The Sox are mudders !!
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2018 21:43:16 GMT -5
Damn. Oh well.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 24, 2018 21:43:18 GMT -5
The most improbable double play by the guy who never hits double plays it seems.
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Post by nomar on Jul 24, 2018 21:43:53 GMT -5
Tough L. Happy for Swihart though. He had a nice night.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 24, 2018 21:44:07 GMT -5
OMG !! how screwed up was that !! Dang.
win the series tomorrow and we good.
Nite fellas!!
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Post by bosox on Jul 24, 2018 21:44:20 GMT -5
Damn. Almost... would have been nice to steal a game because Britton wasn't available because of the MFYs.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2018 21:45:29 GMT -5
The most improbable double play by the guy who never hits double plays it seems. Fourth double play Mookie has had all year. And he’s had 380 plate appearances.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 24, 2018 21:45:31 GMT -5
That will also give you the best second place team in the history of MLB. That's the point - they're NOT going to play .500 baseball the rest of the way. But if they did, they'd win 101 and the Yankees would have to go 37-26 just to match them (.587). If the Red Sox play a completely manageable 35-25 to finish the season, they'll win 106 games and the Yankees would need to play .667 (42-21) just to tie. Or the Sox might even play .696 ball like they have all season and bury the NYY... Yes, that IS good enough that I'm not even remotely interested in making a movie to bring in another back end starter who offers no real playoff upgrade and very very very little upgrade at all. They're in great shape for the rest of the regular season, as is, with Johnson, Velazquez, Beeks, Pomeranz and with recent better news on Rodriguez, to boot, and Wright potentially down the line... Unless they're going all in for a Syndergard or DeGrom type to pair with Sale in the playoffs (which they likely couldn't pull off even if they wanted to) than there is NO need. Adding a starter is not in their top three needs moving forward. It just isn't. The sky is not falling just because Pomeranz was shaky tonight. He's been shaky all season and they're 40 games over .500... I could see the Yankees playing that well after the deadline. A guy who isn't MLB quality pitching for your rotation every five days can level the playing field.
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Post by danredhawk on Jul 24, 2018 21:45:53 GMT -5
Maybe the Sox need to trade for a lead-off hitter. Mookie slashing .000/.000/.000 in his last one at bats. Not going to fend off the Yankees if that keeps up...
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 24, 2018 21:46:08 GMT -5
105 mph on Mookie’s dp.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2018 21:46:43 GMT -5
Damn. Almost... would have been nice to steal a game because Britton wasn't available because of the MFYs. The consternation it would have caused in New York would have been so beautiful.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 24, 2018 21:48:48 GMT -5
Maybe the Sox need to trade for a lead-off hitter. Mookie slashing .000/.000/.000 in his last one at bats. Not going to fend off the Yankees if that keeps up... Yeah because comparing Mookie to your 5th starter is completely relevant. Welcome to the snark train. Awesome job my man.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 24, 2018 21:49:43 GMT -5
Nuts. That ball goes almost anywhere else and it's a tie game or better.
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