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9/3-9/5 Red Sox @ Braves Series Thread
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 4, 2018 23:05:42 GMT -5
Oakland just got out of a bases loaded 0 out rally only allowing 1 run.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 4, 2018 23:18:34 GMT -5
this is good; I think it will only help Rick, and it's a luxury we can afford given our position.
"(Porcello) will pitch Sunday and then we’ll make an adjustment with him as far as usage," Cora said. "We’ve been using him a lot. We’ve been talking about resting guys and resting pitchers and I think he deserves it."
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Post by telson13 on Sept 4, 2018 23:38:54 GMT -5
That he gets a legitimate FB over doesn’t hurt his case. He could be a relief weapon in the postseason. Yeah I think so too. I think a lot of people see a knuckleball and think it's all one in the same. I think the exact opposite. I think every knuckleball pitcher is different, just like every pitcher with a sinking fastball is different and how every changeup is different. I saw one person on Twitter call the knuckleball a "fickle pitch." I called him out on it. Wright's knuckleball is one of the toughest pitches in this league to hit when he's right and healthy. I think the problem is everyone lumps him in with Wakefield. Wakefield was way better in a lot of aspects like durability especially, but I'll take Wright's knuckleball over Wake's if I had to pick one for a game. Wright seems a lot less homerun prone than Wakefield when healthy. He definitely throws it harder than just about any I’ve seen. I remember Candiotti had a real good CB, but most knuckleballers don’t throw much else. Wright’s FB has just an average 8 mph difference from the knuckler, but it’s more than the knuckler comes in so hard. And he gets good movement on it. FIP-based WAR does a terrible job with the knuckleball, for obvious reasons, but I agree that he’s a very good pitcher when healthy. Certainly a heck of a find, although it’s too bad Lars Andersen never panned out. But yeah, Wright’s knuckler is probably the best I’ve seen. It’s easy to forget about him with all of the injuries and time away, but he’s a terrific player to have on the team. And I really do think he has got to be hell on a team coming in mid-game, for 6-10 batters, and then being followed by a guy like Barnes, Kelly, Brasier, or Kimbrel. The contrast is ridiculous.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 4, 2018 23:41:36 GMT -5
Fernando Rodney doing Fernando Rodney things. Best move by DD all year? Not trading for him!
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Post by tizzle on Sept 4, 2018 23:54:06 GMT -5
Fernando Rodney doing Fernando Rodney things. Best move by DD all year? Not trading for him! I didn't want to trade for him, but be fair, the guy didn't give up a run in August.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 5, 2018 0:30:50 GMT -5
Tomorrow is a getaway day too folks. Cora is already talking about resting half the lineup and going with a crazy lineup. That and the fact that Kelly, Wright, and Brasier are most likely unavailable.
To sum things up, don't be surprised if the Sox look bad tomorrow.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 5, 2018 2:55:54 GMT -5
I don’t blame Cora at all on this one. The schedule makers sucked this year.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2018 3:15:08 GMT -5
Tomorrow is a getaway day too folks. Cora is already talking about resting half the lineup and going with a crazy lineup. That and the fact that Kelly, Wright, and Brasier are most likely unavailable. To sum things up, don't be surprised if the Sox look bad tomorrow. Atlanta's the team that needs the early start, so they can catch a plane to Phoenix for a game Thursday night. We have tomorrow as a travel day to come home.
It'll be interesting to see who they'll rest. They have more at stake in their next series than we do, and no time for recovery if they wear themselves out today.
Meanwhile, Foltynewicz has a bigger than usual platoon split, so loading the lineup with LHB (both Bradley and Benny, Devers, Holt at SS, Swihart at C) is not a bad idea. You could see JBJ in the middle of the order for once. Betts, Holt, Benny, Moreland, Bradley, Swihart, Devers, Phillips? Something like that. That's actually still a good lineup. JDM and Xander as PH is above-average. The only pre-September people on the bench will be guys you wanted to rest, so you might as well use them instead of Lin, Travis, et al. Some guys don't like two full straight days off; it seems to have put Mookie in a slump when they did it a bit back.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 5, 2018 5:17:34 GMT -5
After today that makes 75 road games completed. Only 6 left. They have a long home stand they deserve it. Only three in New York and Cleveland. I tell you the Sox been playing a lot of good teams.
Pearce ,Kinsler and I do believe Evoladi will help. What moves. I am praying for Sale that the rest works.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 5, 2018 7:12:35 GMT -5
Loved last night's game...watched on my phone, we are on a mini vacation at a friend's beach house at Nags Head NC. Still that nice big lead over the MFY...all good!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 5, 2018 8:30:32 GMT -5
Tomorrow is a getaway day too folks. Cora is already talking about resting half the lineup and going with a crazy lineup. That and the fact that Kelly, Wright, and Brasier are most likely unavailable. To sum things up, don't be surprised if the Sox look bad tomorrow. I'm cool with it. As far as I'm concerned I think the Sox have done what they needed to do in Atlanta. Resting their players is a great idea. They're going to have a lot of Velazquez and Pomeranz today so if the Sox win today it's just gravy. If they don't, as long as they don't give it away, I'm cool with it. Just stay healthy and get rested. The lead is large enough they are in a wonderful position to do just that. Also glad that Cora will be backing off Porcello and give him a bit of a breather.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2018 9:15:58 GMT -5
Just had a cool idea ... this is Cora's last chance to mess around with double switches in preparation for a WS. And I think you want to give both Mookie and JDM some PT.
I'd go Holt, Benny, Moreland, JDM, JBJ, Swihart, Devers, Phillips, P. Halfway through Mookie hits for the pitcher (probably the second time the spot comes up) and stays in the game, so now the pitcher hits 4th, and Xander hits for him and either he or Lin goes to SS, Holt moves to 2B and the pitcher goes into the 8 hole.
Something like that. Make it fun. Try to get a PA for any player who wants one to avoid rust. You can rest the skill infielders (all of whom have started eight straight days and 11 straight games) and not punt the game.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 5, 2018 9:40:54 GMT -5
Here's the crazy lineup. JBJ is leading off. Between him, Benintendi, and Moreland, those are the only regular starting players playing today. Swihart in the outfield for the first time in months.
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Post by soxfanatic on Sept 5, 2018 10:07:09 GMT -5
Here's the crazy lineup. JBJ is leading off. Between him, Benintendi, and Moreland, those are the only regular starting players playing today. Swihart in the outfield for the first time in months. Shades of Spring Training.
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Post by Smittyw on Sept 5, 2018 10:20:46 GMT -5
At least a "crazy lineup" means we get to see Devers now.
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Post by keany on Sept 5, 2018 10:37:12 GMT -5
I'm hoping for our highest scoring game all year with this line up
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Post by manfred on Sept 5, 2018 10:37:55 GMT -5
Ok, off topic but if the Red Sox had a Seattle Mariners-style pregame battle royale, who comes out on top? Bad news for Mookie. He may be the best player on the team, but he is no heavyweight.
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Post by marrcus on Sept 5, 2018 10:59:54 GMT -5
So Kinsler has a nice series and gets a rest day after night game. Phillips makes it back to big leagues.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 5, 2018 11:08:13 GMT -5
I understand resting but this is a bit of overkill when the Braves are ripe for a sweep and we have an off day tomorrow, and Houston is a much better team than Atlanta. Better to cycle the players that rest as they have been doing than just punt away a game.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2018 11:10:47 GMT -5
Here's the crazy lineup. JBJ is leading off. Between him, Benintendi, and Moreland, those are the only regular starting players playing today. Swihart in the outfield for the first time in months. The only thing that surprises me is Swihart not catching (he's been catching Velazquez and Johnson regularly), but I guess Cora really wanted to give both JDM and Mookie a day off. No biggy -- not much of an offensive downgrade from one of them to CV. I do hope that Mookie at least gets to pinch hit.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 5, 2018 11:14:35 GMT -5
Here's the crazy lineup. JBJ is leading off. Between him, Benintendi, and Moreland, those are the only regular starting players playing today. Swihart in the outfield for the first time in months. DON'T LET US WIN TONIGHT!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 5, 2018 11:15:15 GMT -5
I understand resting but this is a bit of overkill when the Braves are ripe for a sweep and we have an off day tomorrow, and Houston is a much better team than Atlanta. Better to cycle the players that rest as they have been doing than just punt away a game. Or they could have their A lineup in against a great Houston team for 3 games and improve their odds of winning each of three games. The only thing I disagree with Cora on is starting Moreland over Pearce. The Braves pitcher is lefty, correct? He pitched a great game against the Sox last time and he's a really good pitcher. Don't think the Braves are that ripe to be swept. Especially with Velazquez starting. I think Cora is playing things smart. Besides, they do have Benintendi in the lineup and Devers and Phillips and Swihart can swing the bat, too. I don't think the resting is overkill. Worrying about every single game and being worried about resting players would be problematic. I'm thankful Alex Cora is the anti-Don Zimmer!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 5, 2018 11:15:45 GMT -5
Here's the crazy lineup. JBJ is leading off. Between him, Benintendi, and Moreland, those are the only regular starting players playing today. Swihart in the outfield for the first time in months. DON'T LET US WIN TONIGHT! How about this afternoon?
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Post by dd on Sept 5, 2018 11:20:38 GMT -5
I really don't think I can bring myself to watch any more of this.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 5, 2018 11:21:02 GMT -5
Lol this game is playing out predictably so far. At this point, I'm going to laugh it off. I've never seen more of a punt in a game before in my life. I'm not bothered by it all though. Hopefully the Yankees lose and the magic number goes down anyways.
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