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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 22:42:56 GMT -5
Mookie is at risk of sliding into the .250s. That is quite shocking. When he and Benny are struggling, the offense seems to struggle as a whole.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 22:43:42 GMT -5
JD coming up empty on his swings tonight. Just seems to not be recognizing pitches right now. For such a professional hitter it is baffling when this happens.
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Post by bosox on Jun 18, 2019 22:43:42 GMT -5
Mookie is at risk of sliding into the .250s. That is quite shocking. When he and Benny are struggling, the offense seems to struggle as a whole. When you add in 0-5 for JD, things start looking ugly.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 22:45:45 GMT -5
It's been a long time between a game with so many butt-ugly at bats.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 18, 2019 22:50:25 GMT -5
Taylor doesn’t have very good control/command, but he sits 94-95 from the left. If he could tighten up the 4FB and SL/CU a bit more they might have something.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 18, 2019 22:53:30 GMT -5
Taylor doesn’t have very good control/command, but he sits 94-95 from the left. If he could tighten up the 4FB and SL/CU a bit more they might have something. He's about 100 times more interesting than Robbie Scott as a LOOGY. He's probably more than that because his cutter looks indistinguishable from his fastball. But he's gotta throw strikes. That was two very impressive innings thrown to an excellent lineup.
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Post by station13 on Jun 18, 2019 22:54:33 GMT -5
So what happens at 3AM and you run out of pitchers? Does Cora throw an inning?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 18, 2019 22:55:01 GMT -5
Craig Kimbrel was exactly what I thought he was before the trade, when he was here, and after he left. You got exactly what you paid for with Kimbrel imo. I expect a pitcher that you feel comfortable putting into a playoff game. He did look rattled, but he somehow did it. Better to be lucky than good. Well with Kimbrel, it was a little bit of both.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 22:55:36 GMT -5
Pretty remarkable game - who'dathunk Shawaryn, Brasier, Workman and Taylor would limit this powerful offense to 1 run over 6 innings. Offense needs to reward this good work with at least a run...
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Post by coachmac on Jun 18, 2019 22:55:56 GMT -5
Taylor doesn’t have very good control/command, but he sits 94-95 from the left. If he could tighten up the 4FB and SL/CU a bit more they might have something. He looks like he could provide that LHRP that weve been lacking.I agree he's in need of more control/command but 96 that moves from a lefty can help the Sox.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 18, 2019 22:56:12 GMT -5
I expect a pitcher that you feel comfortable putting into a playoff game. He did look rattled, but he somehow did it. Better to be lucky than good. Well with Kimbrel, it was a little bit of both. Yeah, it's as if you don't need closers in every spot in the bullpen or something because you don't always need perfection.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 22:56:19 GMT -5
So what happens at 3AM and you run out of pitchers? Does Cora throw an inning? It's Nunez time!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 18, 2019 22:59:58 GMT -5
He did look rattled, but he somehow did it. Better to be lucky than good. Well with Kimbrel, it was a little bit of both. Yeah, it's as if you don't need closers in every spot in the bullpen or something because you don't always need perfection. Nope. You needed Kimbrel because someone could have *actually been worse,* especially in last year's disaster of a bullpen.
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 18, 2019 23:00:22 GMT -5
Taylor has gone 3 IP in relief once, on 8/26/17. I think he's in better shape pitch-count wise.
Walden presumably being saved for a save, Brewer getting the night off. Velazquez will be the pitch till you lose guy. Do you got to him or Walden first if you don't score now?
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 18, 2019 23:02:02 GMT -5
O'Brien: "JBJ has gone 0-2 with a base hit"
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 23:02:40 GMT -5
Taylor has gone 3 IP in relief once, on 8/26/17. I think he's in better shape pitch-count wise.
Walden presumably being saved for a save, Brewer getting the night off. Velazquez will be the pitch till you lose guy. Do you got to him or Walden first if you don't score now? Brewer was warming up last inning.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 18, 2019 23:03:41 GMT -5
Yeah, it's as if you don't need closers in every spot in the bullpen or something because you don't always need perfection. Nope. You needed Kimbrel because someone could have *actually been worse,* especially in last year's disaster of a bullpen. Unlikely if we're talking about the playoffs.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 18, 2019 23:07:08 GMT -5
Nope. You needed Kimbrel because someone could have *actually been worse,* especially in last year's disaster of a bullpen. Unlikely if we're talking about the playoffs. I mean, aren't you the one who says short samples don't mean anything when it comes to the playoffs and it's usually random? Either way, Dombrowski is going to hunt for a great reliever. I have no doubt about that.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 18, 2019 23:07:51 GMT -5
This is really getting silly.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 18, 2019 23:07:55 GMT -5
Taylor doesn’t have very good control/command, but he sits 94-95 from the left. If he could tighten up the 4FB and SL/CU a bit more they might have something. He looks like he could provide that LHRP that weve been lacking.I agree he's in need of more control/command but 96 that moves from a lefty can help the Sox. Statcast doesn’t know what to do with his cutter. It’s alternately calling it a 4FB or a 2FB, but it’s clearly a different pitch. Idk if he can survive on FB variants alone, though, even if he uses three, unless he can *really* command it. I mean, Doolittle does and Mo Rivera did, and Britton and Jansen basically do, too. But those are heavy names. Still, he’s pretty intriguing, at 26 and a lefty. I’ll say it again: their volume approach has merit, especially when looking at guys like Workman (pitching backwards, and emphasizing up-down) and Walden (adding the 4FB up and leading SL while using 3 FB variants equally). I think that having Bannister (and Levangie) is really helping the team use a data-driven method to develop ideal approaches for individual pitchers. The same could be said for Barnes pitching off the CB, too. They have a basic concept (up-down, CB SI/2FB or CH for GB, 4FB up, CU for a wrinkle, SL for whiffs), but they’re getting really good at teasing out what sort of mix and sequencing works best for each pitcher. If anyone can squeeze quality from Taylor, I think it’s those two.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 18, 2019 23:08:47 GMT -5
Baseball is too long. This is a 4 hour game, with no end in sight. This is one of the huge problems with the game and something that needs to be addressed. We had a almost 5 hour game earlier this week too.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 18, 2019 23:09:33 GMT -5
Unlikely if we're talking about the playoffs. I mean, aren't you the one who says short samples don't mean anything when it comes to the playoffs and it's usually random? Either way, Dombrowski is going to hunt for a great reliever. I have no doubt about that. You had no doubt he would last year also.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 18, 2019 23:10:29 GMT -5
I mean, aren't you the one who says short samples don't mean anything when it comes to the playoffs and it's usually random? Either way, Dombrowski is going to hunt for a great reliever. I have no doubt about that. You had no doubt he would last year also. He actually did. He almost traded for Herrera. I don't know what's your point beyond this. Hoping and praying he won't?
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 18, 2019 23:10:31 GMT -5
blake parker is bad and we let him off the hook
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 18, 2019 23:11:19 GMT -5
You had no doubt he would last year also. He actually did. He almost traded for Herrera. I don't know what's your point beyond this. Hoping and praying he won't? I am not looking forward to the next Carson Smith and Tyler Thornburg trades, no. Or even Kimbrel.
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