2019 Patriots Regular season thread

For some context last year Jones was rated 64, so far in a limited sample size he's at an 86. Gilmore 78.2 currently, 90.7 last year, McCourty 84.3 currently, 79.1 last year and Jackson 48.5 currently, 73.7 last year.

I actually think Jackson has a chance to become a Gilmore type guy. It took Gilmore some time and he has that physical ability to cover anyone in Football, with his size and speed. I wouldn't say he has an issue of gambling too much, your just remember his most recent play. If anything he can be too physical which could be a ton of flags this year.

www.pff.com/news/pro-top-10-cornerbacks-by-passer-rating-in-2018

Let's not forget Jackson allowed the lowest passer rating of any CB in the league last year, yet that somehow only equaled a rating of 73.7 from PFF which doesn't make much sense.

Rather small? He played 13 regular season games and 3 playoff games. He was the full-time starter playing huge minutes and snaps for eight straight games to end the year. Even just his regular season is well over a half season of starter level snap counts.

He also had the 7th best forced incompletion rate and 12th best coverage grade of all CBs. So it wasn't he got lucky with bad throws while he wasn't in position. It's why I brought up the he gambles too much, which really can't be true if he has the 12th best coverage grade.

Only thing that might make sense is if he's not good against the run and that dragged his grade down.

The human element of PFF makes them different, but also means very small samples could mean very little. So much is subjective depending on who is grading the player, just like DRS in Baseball. Heck RJP posted that Bedard said Jones had what 5 pass broken up in a game, Football Reference has him at 3 for the season. That type of crap really changes how you grade a player.

I like Jones, very good slot corner. Him getting injured killed us against the Eagles when we also didn't have Butler. Yet I also don't see the top CB in the league, like not even close. That guy is Gilmore and he proves it almost every game.

That was me.

What I've noticed w/Bedard is that he allocates stats to multiple people (as is done with Sacks by the industry). For example, he has Devin McCourty with 2.5 interceptions (have much of the 3 games but would assume there may have been a tip in there?).

So Jones' 5 PBU's indicated he contributed to 5. I'm guessing PFF assigns the stats (outside of sacks/tackles) to 1 person only for each defensive play.

Last year Jackson only played in 13 games, he was inactive for 3 games to start the year. Jones played all 16 games and had 515 snaps. Jackson also added 148 snaps in the post season, are those included in the stats? It's not a small sample size comparing it to Jones. Per game is almost the same. Gilmore is just an animal. Jones has played 132 snaps so far this season and he's never had a PFF grade for a season even in the 70's, yet is now at 86. If I remember right his high was 68 two years ago and like 64 last year. I'm a numbers guy and that 86 means about as much as Jackson's 48.5 for me.

This didn’t really have anything to do with the conversation but since it came up, playoff snaps:

San Diego:

Jackson 94%
Jones 11%

KC:

Jackson: 98% - all but one
Jones: 79%

Rams:

Jackson: 45%
Jones: 98% - all but one


Matchups - would be interesting to see the counts had Chung not gotten hurt.

Forget the player here and the specific stats. This offers some insight into PFF analysis.

This like

7 of 25 targets.
12 uncatchable or drops
One step separation

I think they care more about the last one than the actual completions. Is the player in position? Is the player making the play? Tackle, breakup when possible, etc)

Any predictions on final score tomorrow? Neither team has played anyone any good. 1-17 records combined. Bills D is very good. Be interesting to see how much TB gets hit.

The Bills don't have the offense to keep up with the Pats. That defense really is legit though, Tremaine Edmunds is an animal.

I can't wait for the game as Josh Allen has really started to impress me. He still makes a ton of mistakes, but Brown, Beasley, and Knox have given him weapons and he's making a bunch of plays. I want to see what a strong armed QB with some weapons can do against our D, while also being a running threat.

Also got a break not playing the fins in December. course as bad has the fins are probably would not make a diff.

Wait, I'm confused. Why wouldn't they want to face the fins in december?

Sounds like Edleman is a go. Burkhead traveled with the team, but the thoughts are that Michel will get more touches than usual so he may not play or will be limited.