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Post by mobaz on Nov 18, 2020 17:44:04 GMT -5
Looks like the pick is in 2025. What a weird deal.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 18, 2020 17:52:46 GMT -5
Looks like the pick is in 2025. What a weird deal. Now it makes sense, lightly protected 2025 pick. I thought it was this years, instead they got a lottery ticket. |
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Post by texs31 on Nov 18, 2020 17:53:45 GMT -5
Everyone is now predicting that Horford will play well in a better fit and Presti will turn him into even more draft capital.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 18, 2020 17:56:32 GMT -5
I heard a pretty good argument that this is the kind of draft to swing for the fences because you have so few sure things that the return of upside is so much higher than meeting a "role player" floor. (still bitter about moving up in a crappy draft to pick a 22 year old skinny center who can't play D instead of an 18 year old with The Greek Freak moniker). KO is 7th in win shares in that draft. Now there are certainly a few guys below him I'd rather have. Yet he wasn't a bad pick. There were seven international guys taken after KO. Two are all-star level, one is a very solid player and four are total busts. I don't even remember talk about Giannis from that draft. I do remember Gobert, yet he was so skinny and frail looking. Oops I got that dead wrong. I would just caution if you take all upside high risk guys, you could get three busts and KO would look darn good. We also don't have room for three raw upside guys like Langford. I'd point out Clarke went later because of his age and that looks like a steal. I actually love a bunch of older guys in this draft. Players like Grant Riller, Bane, Tillie, Tillman, Dotson, etc. They might not be stars, yet they can help you next year. So I'm going for a mix of upside and ready to play guys. It's actually why I love Anthony and Maxey I think they can help next year, while also being rather high upside guys. I trust Danny overall not many better drafting GMs than him. He's not perfect, but his darn good. (Yes I am Trey Balling this thread). Olynyk made no sense on that team. They needed to take swings at talent once the big 3 were gone, and the Sullinger and Olynyk 5th to 7th man on a contender types just seemed unambitious. And no way to prove it but I was 100% upset they picked a 22 year old over an 18 year old athletic freak. Though I'm pretty sure Danny would have traded Giannis before he hit his ceiling, given the moves and rumors around the team the next few years. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 18, 2020 17:58:25 GMT -5
Everyone is now predicting that Horford will play well in a better fit and Presti will turn him into even more draft capital. Well if they deal Steven Adams, otherwise it's not a good fit. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 18, 2020 18:08:42 GMT -5
Looks like the pick is in 2025. What a weird deal. This is the equivalent of what I do in NBA 2K trade all random players you don't want anymore for draft picks even if it means taking back a bad contract. If that game tells me anything its that this works every time! |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 18, 2020 18:10:24 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2013.htmlKO is 7th in win shares in that draft. Now there are certainly a few guys below him I'd rather have. Yet he wasn't a bad pick. There were seven international guys taken after KO. Two are all-star level, one is a very solid player and four are total busts. I don't even remember talk about Giannis from that draft. I do remember Gobert, yet he was so skinny and frail looking. Oops I got that dead wrong. I would just caution if you take all upside high risk guys, you could get three busts and KO would look darn good. We also don't have room for three raw upside guys like Langford. I'd point out Clarke went later because of his age and that looks like a steal. I actually love a bunch of older guys in this draft. Players like Grant Riller, Bane, Tillie, Tillman, Dotson, etc. They might not be stars, yet they can help you next year. So I'm going for a mix of upside and ready to play guys. It's actually why I love Anthony and Maxey I think they can help next year, while also being rather high upside guys. I trust Danny overall not many better drafting GMs than him. He's not perfect, but his darn good. (Yes I am Trey Balling this thread). Olynyk made no sense on that team. They needed to take swings at talent once the big 3 were gone, and the Sullinger and Olynyk 5th to 7th man on a contender types just seemed unambitious. And no way to prove it but I was 100% upset they picked a 22 year old over an 18 year old athletic freak. Though I'm pretty sure Danny would have traded Giannis before he hit his ceiling, given the moves and rumors around the team the next few years. Okay so who do you want? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 18:33:10 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2013.htmlKO is 7th in win shares in that draft. Now there are certainly a few guys below him I'd rather have. Yet he wasn't a bad pick. There were seven international guys taken after KO. Two are all-star level, one is a very solid player and four are total busts. I don't even remember talk about Giannis from that draft. I do remember Gobert, yet he was so skinny and frail looking. Oops I got that dead wrong. I would just caution if you take all upside high risk guys, you could get three busts and KO would look darn good. We also don't have room for three raw upside guys like Langford. I'd point out Clarke went later because of his age and that looks like a steal. I actually love a bunch of older guys in this draft. Players like Grant Riller, Bane, Tillie, Tillman, Dotson, etc. They might not be stars, yet they can help you next year. So I'm going for a mix of upside and ready to play guys. It's actually why I love Anthony and Maxey I think they can help next year, while also being rather high upside guys. I trust Danny overall not many better drafting GMs than him. He's not perfect, but his darn good. (Yes I am Trey Balling this thread). Olynyk made no sense on that team. They needed to take swings at talent once the big 3 were gone, and the Sullinger and Olynyk 5th to 7th man on a contender types just seemed unambitious. And no way to prove it but I was 100% upset they picked a 22 year old over an 18 year old athletic freak. Though I'm pretty sure Danny would have traded Giannis before he hit his ceiling, given the moves and rumors around the team the next few years. Giannis also grew like 4-5 inches after he was drafted. If he were the same guy he is now but 4 inches shorter he’s not even an all-star. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 18, 2020 18:42:06 GMT -5
www.si.com/nba/2013/06/28/giannis-adetokunbo-nba-draft-2013He was 6'9" 196. It wasn't really the height, yet the almost 50 pounds of muscle he added. That doesn't happen often, as you can see with scouts comments. What's a 6'9" 220 SF that can't shoot going to be? Well he's a 6'11" 245 PF/C now and that changes everything.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 18:54:51 GMT -5
www.si.com/nba/2013/06/28/giannis-adetokunbo-nba-draft-2013He was 6'9" 196. It wasn't really the height, yet the almost 50 pounds of muscle he added. That doesn't happen often, as you can see with scouts comments. What's a 6'9" 220 SF that can't shoot going to be? Well he's a 6'11" 245 PF/C now and that changes everything. When he was drafted they still used people’s measurements in shoes and now they use without shoes so i think it’s more a 3 inches difference. But regardless yes he’s gotten beefier too and that’s just as important. I man be exaggerating he wouldn’t be an all-star but the point is I have a hard time faulting Danny |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 18:55:13 GMT -5
Don't know what this means. Mo is a troll account - ignore him |
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Nov 18, 2020 18:56:18 GMT -5
Don't know what this means. Mo is a troll account - ignore him Will note, thank you. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 19:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 19:24:20 GMT -5
Word is Koay Thompson tore his ACL today... I’m going to go out on a limb and say his career is basically over now... he will ah again, but he’s going to be a shell... overpay for Hayward bitches
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 18, 2020 19:27:09 GMT -5
www.si.com/nba/2013/06/28/giannis-adetokunbo-nba-draft-2013He was 6'9" 196. It wasn't really the height, yet the almost 50 pounds of muscle he added. That doesn't happen often, as you can see with scouts comments. What's a 6'9" 220 SF that can't shoot going to be? Well he's a 6'11" 245 PF/C now and that changes everything. When he was drafted they still used people’s measurements in shoes and now they use without shoes so i think it’s more a 3 inches difference. But regardless yes he’s gotten beefier too and that’s just as important. I man be exaggerating he wouldn’t be an all-star but the point is I have a hard time faulting Danny Gobert was much more talked about from what I remember. He already had elite size and that crazy wingspan. That's the one I blame myself for missing. He was a legit option being were talking about. I really remember nothing about Giannis. Can't check though, it wasn't this board, but ESPN which is now closed. |
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Post by mobaz on Nov 18, 2020 19:33:19 GMT -5
I'd actually be pretty happy with Cole Anthony, even though he developmentally overlaps with Langford. After that, bench shooting. And I still think Haliburton will be the "can't believe he fell to X" guy.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 18, 2020 19:35:30 GMT -5
Looks like Mil/Sac deal is off.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 18, 2020 19:51:27 GMT -5
I'd actually be pretty happy with Cole Anthony, even though he developmentally overlaps with Langford. After that, bench shooting. And I still think Haliburton will be the "can't believe he fell to X" guy. Who do u like for shooters? |
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Post by philarhody on Nov 18, 2020 20:18:30 GMT -5
The Wolves may have just taken the next Wiggins at 1.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 20:24:19 GMT -5
The Wolves may have just taken the next Wiggins at 1. Tough draft board for them. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 20:28:52 GMT -5
Bulls taking Patrick Williams is first surprise of the draft so far
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2020 20:30:46 GMT -5
 So many traded picks |
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Post by philarhody on Nov 18, 2020 20:36:31 GMT -5
Okoro is so good. Cleveland made the right pick. 6’6 Marcus Smart with upside
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Post by philarhody on Nov 18, 2020 20:36:49 GMT -5
So many traded picks Apparently OKC wants Poku bad |
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Post by philarhody on Nov 18, 2020 20:41:19 GMT -5
Wouldn’t be shocked if Okongwu is gonna be a Celtic. Because he does not fit that team with Capela, Collins and Desmond. Although Trae is such a sive, who knows
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