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Post by rismith on Sept 4, 2020 8:37:29 GMT -5
Great article in the Athletic by Jen Mcaff today about SimCity and Pawtucket broadcasting the games. Just an FYI for ya
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2020 8:40:30 GMT -5
I've kind of liked Simpson when I've watched him, and understand the team likes him as well.
Needs to figure out where it's going, but there's some decent stuff there.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 4, 2020 9:32:10 GMT -5
I'm thinking the objective of the group of relievers as a whole isn't 2020, it's stacking 2021 upper minors and potentially Boston. It would make no sense to add guys to the 40 man that they don't need to this year.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 4, 2020 11:55:58 GMT -5
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Post by Costigan on Sept 4, 2020 12:46:44 GMT -5
Watching the Sim City game broadcast and Tapia has been sitting 99-100 with some pretty solid command, I've enjoyed watching him pitch and am hoping he gets a shot if possible.
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Post by manfred on Sept 4, 2020 13:54:21 GMT -5
Is Grullon a better defensive catcher than Wong? Is the former the best catching prospect in the system now? It seems like Wong’s greater overall value comes from his versatility, but I am wondering strictly catching who looks better?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2020 14:50:12 GMT -5
I think Wong's versatility has been overstated. He's doing nothing but catching right now and when I asked Billy McMillon about it, he noted that he's still learning to catch, so that's the priority.
I think Wong's the better prospect (as borne out in our rankings). Grullon is no question number 2 though.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 4, 2020 20:48:50 GMT -5
Sim game:
Seabold 4IP Tapia 2IP
Tapia was impressive again throwing strikes and sitting 99-100 with a few low 90's changeups mixed in. Abbott came out and talked to him at one point and he mix in a few (sliders ?). He pretty much dominated with Downs single being the only hard hit ball against him.
Seabold was for the most part the same as last time out. Command and control pitcher that hits his spots. I think his changeup is better than people credit him with. He lost command at one point throwing 6 consecutive balls, Abbott came out said something and the problem immediately went away. His 4th inning was a little more wobbly than usual but not bad. The only hard contact was an Ockimey single.
Casas continues to put up impressive ABs pretty much every time up there. The pitchers are mixing it up against him trying to figure out how to get him out but nothing is working for them.
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Post by manfred on Sept 4, 2020 21:06:27 GMT -5
Sim game: Seabold 4IP Tapia 2IP Tapia was impressive again throwing strikes and sitting 99-100 with a few low 90's changeups mixed in. Abbott came out and talked to him at one point and he mix in a few (sliders ?). He pretty much dominated with Downs single being the only hard hit ball against him. Seabold was for the most part the same as last time out. Command and control pitcher that hits his spots. I think his changeup is better than people credit him with. He lost command at one point throwing 6 consecutive balls, Abbott came out said something and the problem immediately went away. His 4th inning was a little more wobbly than usual but not bad. The only hard contact was an Ockimey single. Casas continues to put up impressive ABs pretty much every time up there. The pitchers are mixing it up against him trying to figure out how to get him out but nothing is working for them. This is a very promising report all around. Thanks for writing it up.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 4, 2020 21:28:16 GMT -5
Just to clarify, when I said people regarding Seabold's changeup, I was referring to Keith Law and some early reports that were floating around. SP has it right so I guess they aren't people, lol.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 4:59:11 GMT -5
Minor stuff:
Ockimey has played a little left and right field, mostly left. He's hot right now, similar to past hot streaks.
Casas played a couple of innings at third a few days ago.
I think Chatham has also played second base (but not 100% sure).
In a normal year, Puello looks like a decent taxi emergency outfielder to have around.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 5:23:38 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 5, 2020 10:49:25 GMT -5
Minor stuff: Ockimey has played a little left and right field, mostly left. He's hot right now, similar to past hot streaks. Casas played a couple of innings at third a few days ago. I think Chatham has also played second base (but not 100% sure). In a normal year, Puello looks like a decent taxi emergency outfielder to have around. Chatham and Downs have both played a bunch of 2B. They're also shifting a ton. Casas even referenced this during his presser yesterday when I asked him about playing third, saying he's basically been at shortstop in shifts.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 5, 2020 10:50:58 GMT -5
Here was my thread on Casas on Twitter.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 17:44:42 GMT -5
Sim game.
Groome 5IP, Pivetta 4 IP, Gonsalves 3IP
Groome had fantastic command of his repertoire but his FB in particular. In general he does not at all look like a pitcher with only 66 innings under his belt. He's mixing it up well for both type and location and the batters pretty much have no clue what's coming.The only hard hit ball was a 105 MPH double by Casas off a 3-2 decent curveball.
Pivetta was a little better than last time out but not significantly so. He's struggling mightily with command of his crooked stuff which effectively makes him a 2 pitch pitcher and the batters are taking advantage.
Gonsalves was very impressive. Of the 11 batters he faced, 1 lazy fly, three long count walks and 7 strikeouts almost all swinging. His first two innings were primarily fastballs which he was blowing by everyone. He mixed it up a bit in his 3rd inning.
Casas continues to have great plate appearances. An announcer quipped, simulated game, the should just start Casas with a full count.
Grullon swings hard, like Munoz, he isn't getting cheated but his HR off Pivetta was an opposite field 384 HR that he pretty much musced out. Interestingly, he also drew 3 walks today.
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Post by manfred on Sept 5, 2020 17:48:06 GMT -5
Sim game. Groome 5IP, Pivetta 4 IP, Gonsalves 3IP Groome had fantastic command of his repertoire but his FB in particular. In general he does not at all look like a pitcher with only 66 innings under his belt. He's mixing it up well for both type and location and the batters pretty much have no clue what's coming.The only hard hit ball was a 105 MPH double by Casas off a 3-2 decent curveball. Pivetta was a little better than last time out but not significantly so. He's struggling mightily with command of his crooked stuff which effectively makes him a 2 pitch pitcher and the batters are taking advantage. Gonsalves was very impressive. Of the 11 batters he faced, 1 lazy fly, three long count walks and 7 strikeouts almost all swinging. His first two innings were primarily fastballs which he was blowing by everyone. He mixed it up a bit in his 3rd inning. Casas continues to have great plate appearances. An announcer quipped, simulated game, the should just start Casas with a full count. Grullon swings hard, like Munoz, he isn't getting cheated but his HR off Pivetta was an opposite field 384 HR that he pretty much musced out. Interestingly, he also drew 3 walks today. In these games are innings real 3-out units? So Groome got 15 outs? That is a solid amount of work for a day right now. And... how hard does Gonsalves throw? Or is it more deception? I appreciate these reports... they are bright spots in a rough season.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 18:01:15 GMT -5
Mostly 3 outs, sometime 2, sometimes 4. I think they are more thinking about # of pitches than # of outs.
I think Groome was 93-94 today, but I don't know about Gonsalves or Pivetta, I don't remember them mentioning it. To me, for Gonsalves it looks more like delivery than deception or speed. Tall lefty that extends well. Usually throws his fastball high in the zone.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 18:14:09 GMT -5
iirc, the Grullon HR came two batters after Pivetta had 3 outs.
For FB velocity, the eyeballs say today Pivetta was the fastest, Gonsalves the slowest.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2020 18:27:33 GMT -5
I want to point out that this site is about ... prospects.
The three most interesting guys, the guys you dreamed on, were Casas, Groome, and Durran. The #1 and the two guys with huge obvious upside that aren't even ranked in the top 100.
Imagine you were given this choice last winter:
A) The team wins the AL East, but Casas, Groome, and Durran all struggle, and even go backwards.
B) The team finishes last because of injuries, etc., but Casas, Groome, and Duran are all better than you dared dream.
Who here picks A?
Nobody.
(Note that I did not specify that the team is so bad that we're looking at the 1 through 3 picks, because that just makes it too easy!)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 19:37:52 GMT -5
I think that if people watched a lot of the alt site, they would be much more impressed with the job Bloom is doing. There is some serious upside all over the place. Guarantees, no, but some serious upside.
I would likely be watching the alt site more than the major league team even if the major league team was doing well. I just enjoy it more. There's no doubt in my mind that I watched a lot more minor league baseball than Boston in 2018.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 19:51:06 GMT -5
From a story on Casas: That approach and maturity, combined with existing raw strength and ability, is one reason the Red Sox believe their farm system is better than many outside rankings suggest. There’s an internal belief that this season might have been a big one for Casas to emerge as a top 50 prospect if he’d been allowed to carry that approach into a full campaign. The same is true for center fielder Jarren Duran, who’s shown increased power to go with his established speed and ability to make contact. Starter Jay Groome, too, could have put himself more firmly on the map in his first full season after Tommy John surgery.. . . It’s been a year since he played in a real game, so he shouldn’t be significantly closer to the major leagues, but it feels like he’s moved up a notch or two.theathletic.com/2045563/2020/09/04/triston-casas-red-sox-top-prospect/?source=weeklyemail. . . . If somebody said they thought those three were performing at a Top50 level right now, I wouldn't think that was an outrageous statement to make.
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Post by jimoh on Sept 5, 2020 21:09:40 GMT -5
Sim game. [...] Grullon swings hard, like Munoz, he isn't getting cheated but his HR off Pivetta was an opposite field 384 HR that he pretty much musced out. Interestingly, he also drew 3 walks today. That's quite a belly on Grullon, no? Are there effective big league catchers that tubby?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 21:24:30 GMT -5
Sim game. [...] Grullon swings hard, like Munoz, he isn't getting cheated but his HR off Pivetta was an opposite field 384 HR that he pretty much musced out. Interestingly, he also drew 3 walks today. That's quite a belly on Grullon, no? Are there effective big league catchers that tubby? Haha, old school. He's built very similarly to Vazquez except a bit chubbier. It surprises me that some people think he could be a left fielder, that seems strange. ADD: SoxProspeects right on the ball here. It was only yesterday that Casas mentioned his current height and weight and his page is already updated.
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Post by soxjim on Sept 5, 2020 22:34:06 GMT -5
From a story on Casas: That approach and maturity, combined with existing raw strength and ability, is one reason the Red Sox believe their farm system is better than many outside rankings suggest. There’s an internal belief that this season might have been a big one for Casas to emerge as a top 50 prospect if he’d been allowed to carry that approach into a full campaign. The same is true for center fielder Jarren Duran, who’s shown increased power to go with his established speed and ability to make contact. Starter Jay Groome, too, could have put himself more firmly on the map in his first full season after Tommy John surgery.. . . It’s been a year since he played in a real game, so he shouldn’t be significantly closer to the major leagues, but it feels like he’s moved up a notch or two.theathletic.com/2045563/2020/09/04/triston-casas-red-sox-top-prospect/?source=weeklyemail. . . . If somebody said they thought those three were performing at a Top50 level right now, I wouldn't think that was an outrageous statement to make. I think it's outrageous. One guy-- sure. Two guys maybe. Three guys-- highly highly highly doubtful. The other teams have farm systems and talent too.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2020 23:33:18 GMT -5
The average farm will have 1 2/3 Top 50 players. 3 is not outrageous if you are judging on that basis alone.
moot point though, pretty much nobody is going to change their evaluations much on prospects they can't see or scout.
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