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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 4, 2020 19:17:15 GMT -5
Dang !!!
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Post by cheers on Aug 4, 2020 19:22:37 GMT -5
This team is really going to waste a nice outing from one of its 1.67 viable major league starters, isn't it? Sigh of relief from team as they get let off the hook by disgruntled SP board...
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 4, 2020 19:40:56 GMT -5
i get the righty / lefty matchup, but pinch hitting the struggling Chavis is like throwin a dadgum Hail Mary.
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Post by kevfc89 on Aug 4, 2020 20:00:54 GMT -5
what a boringly bad team
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 4, 2020 20:09:58 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Brasier ?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 4, 2020 20:30:47 GMT -5
Bad Baseball these days. Dang !!!
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Post by manfred on Aug 4, 2020 20:35:15 GMT -5
Nothing like a) poor play b) in the Trop c) with no fans (as opposed to the 8,000 who would have been there).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 4, 2020 20:51:55 GMT -5
There's no quit in this team.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 4, 2020 20:55:39 GMT -5
If Benni had three times as many hits on the season, he'd barely be over the Mendoza line.
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Post by manfred on Aug 4, 2020 20:55:49 GMT -5
I love Benny, but there is no earthly reason to embarrass him by sending him out there right now.
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Post by kevfc89 on Aug 4, 2020 20:56:58 GMT -5
What happens first, Verdugo's first flyball for a hit, Peraza's first walk or Benny breaking a .100 batting average? So many fun individual races to follow on this team!
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Post by station13 on Aug 4, 2020 20:57:13 GMT -5
we're destined for the 1st pick if there is any consolation .
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 4, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -5
we're destined for the 1st pick if there is any consolation . Pretty sure everyone on this site would sign for that, there will be a lot of belly aching along the way including myself
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Post by kjkramer on Aug 4, 2020 22:07:30 GMT -5
What do the people that know way more than me feel is wrong with Benintendi?
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 4, 2020 22:32:29 GMT -5
What do the people that know way more than me feel is wrong with Benintendi? Remember the Manny Ramierez school of hitting? See ball, hit ball? Well he isnt doing any of that.
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Post by beavertontim on Aug 4, 2020 23:04:44 GMT -5
27 more days to the reset
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 4, 2020 23:46:06 GMT -5
I don't know, after the Red Sox last draft they'll probably take another kid out of the top 100 with the 1st overall pick.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 5, 2020 5:33:36 GMT -5
I don't know, after the Red Sox last draft they'll probably take another kid out of the top 100 with the 1st overall pick. Why have Kumar when you can draft someone who could be as good as Kumar down the road.
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Post by costpet on Aug 5, 2020 8:02:10 GMT -5
Good time to bring up some AAA players to give them a taste. Duran?
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Post by cba82 on Aug 5, 2020 8:34:33 GMT -5
I get a sick feeling every time Austin Meadows does something positive.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 5, 2020 9:09:10 GMT -5
Question for the board if Eovaldi keeps this up do we trade him or keep? I can see both sides Well, as with any trade, it depends on 1) What's the return, and 2) Who are you replacing him with? I don't get the inclination to trade Eovaldi. This team next year already needs to 1) Hope ERod comes back healthy, 2) Replace Price, which they haven't really done yet, and 3) Find a stopgap until Sale is ready. I'd need to get absolutely bowled over to move Eovaldi. As it is, they probably need to find two MLB-quality starting pitchers. Making it three just seems too much to do, and they only have so many years of what's remaining of this core. And $17M really isn't THAT awful. Too much for him? Yeah probably. But if they reset the CBT, they can afford that. And since it'll probably come up, I'd much prefer to start Mata in AAA next year and let him force his way up, unless he winds up coming up this year and shoving. Unless we're talking about a top prospect in the game (and Mat is not that, as much as I like him), I'm more of a fan of letting the player change your plans rather than building your plans around the player.
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Post by manfred on Aug 5, 2020 9:18:54 GMT -5
Question for the board if Eovaldi keeps this up do we trade him or keep? I can see both sides Well, as with any trade, it depends on 1) What's the return, and 2) Who are you replacing him with? I don't get the inclination to trade Eovaldi. This team next year already needs to 1) Hope ERod comes back healthy, 2) Replace Price, which they haven't really done yet, and 3) Find a stopgap until Sale is ready. I'd need to get absolutely bowled over to move Eovaldi. As it is, they probably need to find two MLB-quality starting pitchers. Making it three just seems too much to do, and they only have so many years of what's remaining of this core. And $17M really isn't THAT awful. Too much for him? Yeah probably. But if they reset the CBT, they can afford that. And since it'll probably come up, I'd much prefer to start Mata in AAA next year and let him force his way up, unless he winds up coming up this year and shoving. Unless we're talking about a top prospect in the game (and Mat is not that, as much as I like him), I'm more of a fan of letting the player change your plans rather than building your plans around the player. This seems right on. The only wrinkle comes in the notion of needing Eovaldi next year... that is, we may have reached the point where there isn’t much of a “next year.” So to me the question is more do we need in for the year after next. Or could we get a decent return and fill his slot in one of the next two off seasons. One alternative to me remains trading Workman (I’m sure the return would be minimal, but such is life), and making Eovaldi closer. Even yesterday we saw that the guy is capable of being dominant once through, but I’m not sure he has enough of a mix to go deep in games. But he’d be lights out as a closer.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 5, 2020 9:25:22 GMT -5
Our 3 guys with no control past this year, definitely, for best offer whatever that may be. Workman, Pillar, JBJ.
Anyone else traded should be because it's beneficial to the longer term picture.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 5, 2020 10:20:32 GMT -5
Question for the board if Eovaldi keeps this up do we trade him or keep? I can see both sides Well, as with any trade, it depends on 1) What's the return, and 2) Who are you replacing him with? I don't get the inclination to trade Eovaldi. This team next year already needs to 1) Hope ERod comes back healthy, 2) Replace Price, which they haven't really done yet, and 3) Find a stopgap until Sale is ready. I'd need to get absolutely bowled over to move Eovaldi. As it is, they probably need to find two MLB-quality starting pitchers. Making it three just seems too much to do, and they only have so many years of what's remaining of this core. And $17M really isn't THAT awful. Too much for him? Yeah probably. But if they reset the CBT, they can afford that. And since it'll probably come up, I'd much prefer to start Mata in AAA next year and let him force his way up, unless he winds up coming up this year and shoving. Unless we're talking about a top prospect in the game (and Mat is not that, as much as I like him), I'm more of a fan of letting the player change your plans rather than building your plans around the player. I guess the counterpoint is that when Eovaldi looks good he looks VERY good so a team might be willing to buy high when he's on. And given that he makes too much money for his likely (rather than peak) contributions, it makes sense floating to see if a team will pay value for him. So maybe it's just being pedantic, but I don't think I'd need to be bowled over. I'd play any trade consideration with him relatively straight - if the value of the return beats the value of keeping him then I do it. Getting a legit prospect and that 2/$34M to play with might be worth more to the 2021-22 Sox than Eovaldi. Even if you turn around and use that money or flip the prospect for a more dependable innings-eater type with less upside to slot in behind Sale and Rodriguez it might be an upgrade. Eovaldi's bWAR for his career is less than 10; he has never had a 2.5 bWAR season. I really think that might be the kind of guy you get out from under when his value comes back up.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 5, 2020 10:36:23 GMT -5
Our 3 guys with no control past this year, definitely, for best offer whatever that may be. Workman, Pillar, JBJ. Anyone else traded should be because it's beneficial to the longer term picture. Moreland? Let's see what Chavis can do and get Dalbec some playing time.
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