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Post by southernredsoxality on Aug 31, 2020 15:58:17 GMT -5
I guess Bloom really did fleece the Padres on the Moreland deal, because he and Pillar are similar players in terms of value to me. I know Moreland has a cheap club option, but that’s not saying much for a guy who’s pretty replaceable. Looks like Chaim tried to rob someone else with Pillar but there weren’t any other Prellers around and so he had to settle for this. Something’s better than nothing though. We have no way to judge this trade like this yet. We don't know who the player is coming back nor how much IFA cap money they got. True, I’m more going off of some of the posters reactions saying that if it’s a top 20 guy they will do backflips and stuff. |
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 31, 2020 16:43:39 GMT -5
If they got a top 40 prospect I'll be happy. If they get top 20 I'll do backflips. (Note: I will not actually do backflips, that is not within my physical capabilities). If the Sox get a top 20 prospect, I will get my granddaughter (an acrobatic gymnast) to do backflips on your behalf. I appreciate that. |
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Post by alnipper on Aug 31, 2020 17:34:04 GMT -5
I am curious what the return will be on a good defensive center fielder. I just wish he was still hot with the bat.
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Post by agastonguay13 on Aug 31, 2020 20:28:51 GMT -5
I feel like it's Pint coming back. High pick, not on the 60 man, has underperformed in his time in the Rockies organization. Just a gut feeling.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 1, 2020 1:43:14 GMT -5
I guess I'm confused, because at best the Inernational money of less than a million in a class that's been mosty signed will have a 2% chance. As for the PTBNL, last year the Sox got a trash pitcher Andrew Cashner from Baltimore for two just-signed J2 kids, Noelberth Romero (275K, and .264 in the DSL) and Elio Prado (85K, and .300 in the DSL). Hard to do any sort of apples to apples, but 1) Pillar is miles better than Cashner, 2) Sox are getting value (one prospect) rather than volume (two prospects). You'd hope that would mean one prospect better than the combined two decent kids the Sox gave up. I'd take Amodor in a heartbeat, though Colorado invested a lot in him recently (he was their top J2 in 2019) www.purplerow.com/2019/7/2/20678900/mlb-international-signing-rockies-adael-amadorCashner was a bust for us as a starter, but he was one of the most sought-after guys, as he'd been on an extended roll. 1.41 ERA in his last 5 starts, .168 / .202 / .221 allowed. |
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Post by 1toolplayer on Sept 1, 2020 10:10:51 GMT -5
I feel like it's Pint coming back. High pick, not on the 60 man, has underperformed in his time in the Rockies organization. Just a gut feeling. A guy a liked in last year's draft as a mid round type college arm is Will Ethridge. He is not in their player pool, and their 21st ranked prospect. Has shown good command, has the requisite "starter's build" and enough stuff for a chance to be a starter and the type of guy I'd like back in this deal. Sort of a similar profile to Seabold when he first entered pro ball (not the current version which has progressed) |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 1, 2020 11:44:28 GMT -5
For those who want to see Duran you can see more of him in the sim-games than you would if he was called up. I watched one inning where he walked and the pinch ran for him so he could bat again. He's also hit for "both sides" in a game I watched. If I recall in one instance he came in from CF to bat. These aren't your usual baseball games. I think nearly everyone is hitting for both teams. They have 10 hitters there right now before the SD guys clear intake, 4 of them catchers who might be in the bullpen, actually catching, etc., so it's more like 8 available at a time. That's why this past Sunday they did a defense-less sim game - otherwise guys would be up every 4th hitter! |
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Post by congusgambler33 on Sept 1, 2020 11:48:14 GMT -5
With these convoluted rules about the PTBNL, when can they actually release the names so the people that support the team know who they are?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 1, 2020 11:59:48 GMT -5
With these convoluted rules about the PTBNL, when can they actually release the names so the people that support the team know who they are? I believe it's always within 6 months. With these they'll probably get announced once the season ends. |
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Post by congusgambler33 on Sept 1, 2020 12:33:07 GMT -5
With these convoluted rules about the PTBNL, when can they actually release the names so the people that support the team know who they are? I believe it's always within 6 months. With these they'll probably get announced once the season ends.
Ok..Thanks Chris
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Post by manfred on Sept 1, 2020 12:42:09 GMT -5
Follow up dumb question: I know a lot of guys are inactive right now, but generally.... do these guys sit? What happens if an injury happens before the formal transfer?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2020 9:25:43 GMT -5
Follow up dumb question: I know a lot of guys are inactive right now, but generally.... do these guys sit? What happens if an injury happens before the formal transfer? So in a normal year, if there's a PTBNL, it's usually because there's some kind of list the other team is picking a guy from, or there's some kind of contingent reason for it. Once they change the rookie rule for Trea Turner, it got rid of the "everyone knows who the PTBNL is but we can't officially trade him yet" thing. so in other words, there's really no reason for someone to sit at this point. In this case, the player who is the PTBNL is working out the way he otherwise would on the new team, but I'm not sure if they'd tell a guy to shut it down for four weeks so he doesn't get hurt. Might depend on what the new team wants? Like, if Kole Cottam were a PTBNL, would his new team not want him playing in Lexington like he is right now? Or would they want him to keep getting reps? I'm honestly unsure. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 18, 2020 17:39:19 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 18, 2020 17:40:02 GMT -5
Wallace is ranked 20th in the Rockies system according to MLB Pipeline:
If there’s a closer at the University of Connecticut worth drafting, it’s getting close to automatic that he’ll end up with the Rockies. They got Scott Oberg out of UConn back in 2012 and selected PJ Poulin in 2018, but both were taken after the 10th round. Coming off an absolutely dominant junior season as the Huskies’ closer in 2019, Wallace went in the third round of the Draft, then was no match for Northwest League hitters during his pro debut.
Wallace goes after hitters aggressively with a power two-pitch mix. His fastball sits 96-97 mph and he couples it with an absolutely nasty slider that’s a true out pitch. He creates good deception with the pitch, throwing his slider off the same plane as his fastballs with both sweep and depth to it, leading hitters to wave at it.
There is effort in Wallace’s delivery, but that also adds to the deception and his arm works with good ease, so there isn’t real concern about it being too violent. He didn’t seem tired at the end of a long college season despite a fair amount of work during his pro debut, a good sign for the future. He has the right mentality for the back end of a bullpen, something that could keep happening assuming he continues to find the strike zone consistently enough.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 18, 2020 17:42:40 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 18, 2020 17:48:00 GMT -5
If I were a Rockies fan, I would definitely be annoyed at giving up our 20th best prospects for less than 100 Kevin Pillar plate appearances.
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Post by jkfer98 on Sept 18, 2020 18:00:01 GMT -5
Go Huskies
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Post by chr31ter on Sept 18, 2020 18:04:05 GMT -5
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Post by Canseco on Sept 18, 2020 18:17:42 GMT -5
Our own Wallace to slay the Longshanks from New York.
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Post by philarhody on Sept 18, 2020 18:22:18 GMT -5
That slider is nasty, but without even looking at them, I’d imagine those righty/lefty splits are severe.
Edit: also looks like he was throwing a high 80s change that generates some swing and miss. Is that just a hard slider?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 18, 2020 18:37:18 GMT -5
No need for a 40 man slot. Great return. Lets sign Pillar again and trade him next trade deadline after the Fenway effect. We could make this an annual ritual.
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Post by jkfer98 on Sept 18, 2020 18:38:43 GMT -5
That slider is nasty, but without even looking at them, I’d imagine those righty/lefty splits are severe. Edit: also looks like he was throwing a high 80s change that generates some swing and miss. Is that just a hard slider? Limited sample size, obviously. Low A. vs. RHB: 50 PAs, .152/.220/.261 (.481 OPS), 24 K's, 3 BB's vs. LHB: 30 PAs, .083/.267/.083 (.350 OPS), 5 K's, 6 BB's |
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Post by cdj on Sept 18, 2020 19:19:49 GMT -5
So Wallace AND international bonus pool money?
That’s a beautiful return for 100 AB’s of a guy playing below average with both the glove and the stick in Colorado
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Post by iii on Sept 18, 2020 19:48:37 GMT -5
Where does he rank? 18-22?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Sept 18, 2020 20:06:26 GMT -5
Where does he rank? 18-22? Not a perfect comparison but when Durbin Feltman was in the top 20 he ranged from 9-17 and I'd imagine Wallace will probably be in the back half of that range, 15-17 |
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