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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 10, 2021 13:15:17 GMT -5
The Timelord/Stevens thing is a cruel joke at this point. It’s weird... you want to say it’s favoring veterans but he seems to be playing Pritchard over Teague so... |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 10, 2021 13:20:25 GMT -5
I find this very funny, it's the Irving vs Rozier debate. I really thought that would have ended the talent vs team ball/Defense debate. Irving was a crazy talented scorer and better player than Rozier. The team played better with less talent because it played team ball. 2018 they weren't ready, it's just a shame we can't see those three now.
Same people arguing with me about how good Robert Williams was last year, now want him to play.
How did the Thompson and Teague signings workout? Raise your hand if you wanted that. Is Teague not washed up? Did Thompson not create an unbalanced roster? Has the D not gotten much worse? Per reports Danny is looking for wing/big man that can score. Who could have seen that as a need before the season?
Not to even mention Turner.
Tatum and Brown are now the #1 scoring tandem in the league and we think the issue is them not being ready.
If you wanted to develop young players why would you want Thompson? It was clear as day it was going to block Williams.
I'm not trying to slam people, just look back at the last few years. We had an elite ISO scorer and it didn't make us a better team. We got beat by the Heat not because they had more talent, it was because they played much better team ball. They shredded our defense with ball movement. They exploited Walker on D all series long. They played Crowder at PF. It's a shame injuries didn't give them a chance in the finals. Yet it's the perfect example of a good team that plays great team ball versus just talent. Go look at the Warriors before Durant, it wasn't ISO, it was great team ball. They moved the ball and took shots within the offense.
The facts really are Danny had a horrible off-season. He made one good move and a ton of bad ones. It was puzzling at the time and nothing has changed. Insert Bane is shooting 48.1% from deep and Turner is the front runner for defensive player of the year. Now he's trying hard to make changes. Let's hope he does a better job this time.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 10, 2021 14:38:24 GMT -5
Rozier wasn’t good his last year here, he played really well the year before, but played like a baby his last year here because he wasn’t starting. His offensive box plus/minus was negative. His shooting has gotten much better, but his defensive numbers have crashed in Charlotte. He really hasn’t proven to be a PG who’s willing to run a team and not hunt for his own offense. Maybe some of that is circumstance, but after how I saw him his last year here, I don’t know how any one can be confident he’d be great at running a team and deferring to Tatum and Brown.
But yes, Danny had a bad off-season. They need to recognize that and work with what they have. Play the kids. Build their value - develop them. Are you the one who said Hayward was a bad fit here because of Langford needing playing time?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 10, 2021 15:35:32 GMT -5
Terry Rozier has played SG for the Hornets, Graham and now Ball have been the PGs. 4.1 and 3 assists by a SG is darn good. During the 2018 playoffs he averaged 5.7 assists and Tatum/Brown are now much better players. Umm Walker didn't average that many last year with more talent. So color me confused by anyone that doubts Rozier is good enough as a PG. He's certainly not an elite passer, yet he was much better than Walker.
I have zero issues with a guy wanting to play and I certainly would have been pissed given the way Irving acted that year. Let's blame Rozier though when Irving destroyed the team and made everyone worse and it was everyone! Did Tatum and Brown not play better under Rozier? Go compare the 2018 playoff numbers for everyone compared to the 2019 season stats
Yet it's not just Rozier either, they also miss Horford and how good he was at creating. Guys like Gordon and Saric can help in that front. Good team ball needs multiple creators.
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Post by cdj on Feb 10, 2021 22:24:19 GMT -5
You know what, screw Milquetoast Myles
I finally relent on him and give him a chance and I pick him for fanduel and he has his worst game of the year by far, **** that guy
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Post by cdj on Feb 11, 2021 0:02:28 GMT -5
The Eric André shooting Hannibal Buress Meme
Eric André is labeled Brad Stevens, Hannibal Burress is labeled TimeLords minutes, and Eric Andres questions is “oh no, how could we have allowed 122 points”
This concludes my written out meme
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 11, 2021 7:03:43 GMT -5
Terry Rozier has played SG for the Hornets, Graham and now Ball have been the PGs. 4.1 and 3 assists by a SG is darn good. During the 2018 playoffs he averaged 5.7 assists and Tatum/Brown are now much better players. Umm Walker didn't average that many last year with more talent. So color me confused by anyone that doubts Rozier is good enough as a PG. He's certainly not an elite passer, yet he was much better than Walker. I have zero issues with a guy wanting to play and I certainly would have been pissed given the way Irving acted that year. Let's blame Rozier though when Irving destroyed the team and made everyone worse and it was everyone! Did Tatum and Brown not play better under Rozier? Go compare the 2018 playoff numbers for everyone compared to the 2019 season stats Yet it's not just Rozier either, they also miss Horford and how good he was at creating. Guys like Gordon and Saric can help in that front. Good team ball needs multiple creators. I guess the point is, you need to move on - you keep wanting a floor general then talking Rozier. He’s gone man - he’s not coming back. You’re fantasizing about him. Your girl is married to someone else- you need to stop talking about her. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 11, 2021 11:25:13 GMT -5
Sooooo Jaylen Brown has tendinitis in his knee at 24.... what the hell.... I’m at a loss for words... this sucks
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 11, 2021 11:44:19 GMT -5
Terry Rozier has played SG for the Hornets, Graham and now Ball have been the PGs. 4.1 and 3 assists by a SG is darn good. During the 2018 playoffs he averaged 5.7 assists and Tatum/Brown are now much better players. Umm Walker didn't average that many last year with more talent. So color me confused by anyone that doubts Rozier is good enough as a PG. He's certainly not an elite passer, yet he was much better than Walker. I have zero issues with a guy wanting to play and I certainly would have been pissed given the way Irving acted that year. Let's blame Rozier though when Irving destroyed the team and made everyone worse and it was everyone! Did Tatum and Brown not play better under Rozier? Go compare the 2018 playoff numbers for everyone compared to the 2019 season stats Yet it's not just Rozier either, they also miss Horford and how good he was at creating. Guys like Gordon and Saric can help in that front. Good team ball needs multiple creators. I guess the point is, you need to move on - you keep wanting a floor general then talking Rozier. He’s gone man - he’s not coming back. You’re fantasizing about him. Your girl is married to someone else- you need to stop talking about her. Got some bad memories do you? Rozier is the best floor general we've had at running Brad Stevens offense and a perfect example of what this team needs. How he can score, play D, create, rebound and get teams fast break points. I'm sorry your idea of Irving being perfect didn't workout. Yet you keep harping on the same thing for years and years. Even when looking at 40 years of NBA Champions you still don't see it. Iso isn't the best way to build a Championship team, team ball is. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 11, 2021 21:04:26 GMT -5
I do miss Terry a lot, so I'm conflicted here. I don't think Kemba is the issue, but man Danny made a huge mistake on that one.
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Post by cdj on Feb 11, 2021 22:04:59 GMT -5
Good to see Kemba have an effective game
Semi and Pritchard were incredible
That was some quality team ball. 30 assists
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Post by philarhody on Feb 11, 2021 22:22:03 GMT -5
Sooooo Jaylen Brown has tendinitis in his knee at 24.... what the hell.... I’m at a loss for words... this sucks I’m not sure this is uncommon. |
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Post by ianrs on Feb 12, 2021 3:47:57 GMT -5
Semi and Pritchard for Co-MVP
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 12, 2021 7:08:51 GMT -5
Bad shooting games happen, yet why isn't he creating for others? Because that's not his role and seriously, who are the others? Half the team is out, there's 0 depth. Who should he create for? And bang!! Just like that the J's have 19 dimes between them. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 12, 2021 7:59:57 GMT -5
Sooooo Jaylen Brown has tendinitis in his knee at 24.... what the hell.... I’m at a loss for words... this sucks I’m not sure this is uncommon. You think a 24 year old having tendinitis in his knee is common? Missing games because of it? That’s generally a degenerative condition that gets incrementally worse. It doesn’t make me feel good that’s for sure. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 12, 2021 8:12:57 GMT -5
Teague played 3 mins the other night and was a DNP-CD last night. That’s with Smart out as well... it’s nice that Stevens is all in on PRabbit. Anyone, else surprised how good he is defensively?
Rob Williams being out with general hip soreness could explain his limited minutes.. it’s also concerning. If you’re in your early 20s and “general soreness” is keeping you out of games that’s not ideal.
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Post by philarhody on Feb 12, 2021 12:47:02 GMT -5
I’m not sure this is uncommon. You think a 24 year old having tendinitis in his knee is common? Missing games because of it? That’s generally a degenerative condition that gets incrementally worse. It doesn’t make me feel good that’s for sure. Yeah that’s what I am saying. I had it at the same age. I’m 6’6 225 and not half as explosive as Jaylen Brown (although I’m 33 now and can still dunk fairly easily). Basketball is a tough sport on joints. But tendinitis is not the same as something more degenerative involving cartilage. |
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Post by philarhody on Feb 12, 2021 12:47:53 GMT -5
Teague played 3 mins the other night and was a DNP-CD last night. That’s with Smart out as well... it’s nice that Stevens is all in on PRabbit. Anyone, else surprised how good he is defensively? Rob Williams being out with general hip soreness could explain his limited minutes.. it’s also concerning. If you’re in your early 20s and “general soreness” is keeping you out of games that’s not ideal. I agree. Hip issues are not good. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 12, 2021 13:21:09 GMT -5
Raise your hand if a year ago you'd think Tatum and Brown would combine for 19 assists. The damn quickness in which those guys improve is really unreal. It's like Steven's says next up on becoming a superstar is creating and they both do it no problem.
Finally Stevens starts Theis and sends Thompson to the bench and sends Teague to somewhere that isn't on the court. End result is one of the better overall performances of the year.
You can't say enough good things about Pritchard. He's on pace to be the only rookie to ever post a 50-40-90 shooting line. Yes he's defense has been much better than scouting reports said. It's not talent, yet he's got some Smart like hustle in his game. Danny's huge HR move. If he'd only drafted Bane a few picks latter you'd have had one epic draft no matter what Nesmith does.
Knee tendinitis is very common in athletes. Danny literally said he dealt with it for most of his 14 year career.
What caused Robert Williams hip issue? I'm slightly worried if it just acted up, I'm not worried at all if it's because he got hit or banged it on the court. It's the NBA, it's very common for players to miss 5-10 games a year with minor issues.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 12, 2021 15:09:47 GMT -5
I don’t understand why Pritchards defense isn’t talent... instincts is talent... also he has quick feet and moves them extremely well. He’s been able to stay in front of guys in ways we didn’t expect. I feel like that’s talent.
I just want to be clear, I don’t think he’s some all world defender, but he’s been good.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 12, 2021 15:24:08 GMT -5
I don’t understand why Pritchards defense isn’t talent... instincts is talent... also he has quick feet and moves them extremely well. He’s been able to stay in front of guys in ways we didn’t expect. I feel like that’s talent. I just want to be clear, I don’t think he’s some all world defender, but he’s been good. Maybe a poor choice of words, he's not a gifted athlete, like not even close. It's hard work, hustle, smarts, playing 100%. I see instincts as a skill that players can learn, look at Robert Williams. Not natural talent that a player has or doesn't have. |
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Post by philarhody on Feb 12, 2021 17:53:15 GMT -5
I don’t understand why Pritchards defense isn’t talent... instincts is talent... also he has quick feet and moves them extremely well. He’s been able to stay in front of guys in ways we didn’t expect. I feel like that’s talent. I just want to be clear, I don’t think he’s some all world defender, but he’s been good. He’s been real good. His feet are very quick side to side. He mirrors NBA ball handlers very well. And he is strong at the point of attack. Obviously there are length limitations that will prevent him from being a force. But he is a lot stronger and probably quicker laterally than Kemba. He’s definitely our best point guard defender, unless you’re counting Smart. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 12, 2021 20:33:16 GMT -5
Because that's not his role and seriously, who are the others? Half the team is out, there's 0 depth. Who should he create for? And bang!! Just like that the J's have 19 dimes between them. I believe Pritchard was out in the game I was mentioning. I still think Semi kind of sucks, last night's heroics notwithstanding. Semi looking good tonight again so what the hell do I know lol. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 12, 2021 20:37:28 GMT -5
And bang!! Just like that the J's have 19 dimes between them. I believe Pritchard was out in the game I was mentioning. I still think Semi kind of sucks, last night's heroics notwithstanding. Semi looking good tonight again so what the hell do I know lol. I think Semi is about confidence - i think we are seeing the start of him getting confident - but it’s still going to be up and down. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 12, 2021 20:38:11 GMT -5
 Some humor |
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