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4/12-4/15 Red Sox @ Twins Series Thread
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Post by p23w on Apr 15, 2021 10:06:22 GMT -5
Play off potential is yet to be determined. Playoff success is dependent on health/fitness come September. Very few believed the 2013 season would end as it did. A perfect storm is always possible albeit extremely rare.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 15, 2021 10:12:31 GMT -5
That's what gives me hope that this team can stay the course. I think the pen scares the hell out of me. They've hung on. The staff has issued 4.3 BB/9. If that doesn't go down eventually teams will start plating runs against the Red Sox pitching staff. I'm not yet sold on Richards, Pivetta, and Perez as being contributors to a playoff rotation. The pen scares me. I don't believe in Kiké as the leadoff hitter and I'm not sold on him being an everyday player. That said, I can see scenarios where Whitlock's role expands or Seabold comes up and gives the Brandon Workman, version 2013. Perhaps Tanner Houck comes up and is the Incredible Houck in the second half. Maybe Duran comes in and solidifies the leadoff spot. Not as likely, but maybe Downs contributes. Maybe Sale winds up solidifying the back end of the pen if they don't think they can stretch him out to start? These are possibilities that could help keep the Sox afloat, sort of the way guys like Ellsbury, Buchholz, Lester, and even Kason Gabbard came up during the 2007 season and gave them a shot in the arm. So yes, this team could win between 83 - 87 (at the high end of 87, that's 78-72 the rest of the way AFTER a long winning streak, which is solid .520 baseball, not great, but certainly not bad), but the ability to dream for more, meaning, yes, if a lot of stuff breaks right they could find their way to 90 - 95 wins, which would be astounding given where they were and damn near like 2013. They don't really need Richards, Pivetta, or Perez to contribute to a playoff rotation if they have Sale, Rodriguez, and Eovaldi. Not to be a broken record, but if this is a .500 team, who in the AL do you think is better? Thanks to the hot start, fangraphs now projects them for the second-best record in the AL (or third going by playoff odds, 1 game behind the Astros). The rotation has question marks, but which team's doesn't? The offense has some weaknesses, but which team's doesn't? And which teams are set up to add a pitcher of Sale's caliber in July?
Those are big ifs. Let's see Nate Eovaldi stay healthy and effective for a full season. Let's make sure E-Rod makes it through the season fine (I feel more optimistic about that than Eovaldi staying healthy). Let's see if/how Sale comes back. I'm not certain he doesn't have any setbacks or is taking regular turns in the rotation by year's end. They can survive injuries or performance issues like these if Houck, Seabold, Whitlock or some combo of them step in, which is quite possible. Look, I picked the team to win 79 games and made the caveat that the team's performance could vary greatly this season, a lot more than a typical season. It's like you want me to to say, yup they won 9 games in April, so therefore pencil them in for a playoff spot. Sorry, but I'm not willing to go there. I am willing to say they look like they could be better than a .500 team and it's NOT crazy that they could be on the high end of any anticipated range or even exceed it a bit. I don't know why what I'm saying is so damn crazy or offensive or why I must now recalibrate the team as championship caliber. Let's see them play .600 ball by July, handle the Yankees, and I'll start to buy in more. We're only 12 games into the season.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 15, 2021 10:15:28 GMT -5
That's what gives me hope that this team can stay the course. I think the pen scares the hell out of me. They've hung on. The staff has issued 4.3 BB/9. If that doesn't go down eventually teams will start plating runs against the Red Sox pitching staff. I'm not yet sold on Richards, Pivetta, and Perez as being contributors to a playoff rotation. The pen scares me. I don't believe in Kiké as the leadoff hitter and I'm not sold on him being an everyday player. That said, I can see scenarios where Whitlock's role expands or Seabold comes up and gives the Brandon Workman, version 2013. Perhaps Tanner Houck comes up and is the Incredible Houck in the second half. Maybe Duran comes in and solidifies the leadoff spot. Not as likely, but maybe Downs contributes. Maybe Sale winds up solidifying the back end of the pen if they don't think they can stretch him out to start? These are possibilities that could help keep the Sox afloat, sort of the way guys like Ellsbury, Buchholz, Lester, and even Kason Gabbard came up during the 2007 season and gave them a shot in the arm. So yes, this team could win between 83 - 87 (at the high end of 87, that's 78-72 the rest of the way AFTER a long winning streak, which is solid .520 baseball, not great, but certainly not bad), but the ability to dream for more, meaning, yes, if a lot of stuff breaks right they could find their way to 90 - 95 wins, which would be astounding given where they were and damn near like 2013. They don't really need Richards, Pivetta, or Perez to contribute to a playoff rotation if they have Sale, Rodriguez, and Eovaldi.
Not to be a broken record, but if this is a .500 team, who in the AL do you think is better? Thanks to the hot start, fangraphs now projects them for the second-best record in the AL (or third going by playoff odds, 1 game behind the Astros). The rotation has question marks, but which team's doesn't? The offense has some weaknesses, but which team's doesn't? And which teams are set up to add a pitcher of Sale's caliber in July?
To be more accurate, they need one of Houck, Pivetta, Richards, Perez, Seabold, or a Whitlock / Andriese (or someone else) piggyback combo to be the 4th starter, who starts once per series.
I'd be very surprised if any team in MLB can match that for rotation depth 4 through 9.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 15, 2021 10:24:23 GMT -5
The absolute number one reason I think this team has playoff potential is the starting pitching. Rodriguez, Eovaldi, Perez, Richards, Pivetta as a staff have been solid, with Houck, Seabold and later Sale available as well, they have the depth to withstand injuries or drop in performance. What a 180 from last year. That's what gives me hope that this team can stay the course. I think the pen scares the hell out of me. They've hung on. The staff has issued 4.3 BB/9. If that doesn't go down eventually teams will start plating runs against the Red Sox pitching staff. I'm not yet sold on Richards, Pivetta, and Perez as being contributors to a playoff rotation. The pen scares me. I don't believe in Kiké as the leadoff hitter and I'm not sold on him being an everyday player. That said, I can see scenarios where Whitlock's role expands or Seabold comes up and gives the Brandon Workman, version 2013. Perhaps Tanner Houck comes up and is the Incredible Houck in the second half. Maybe Duran comes in and solidifies the leadoff spot. Not as likely, but maybe Downs contributes. Maybe Sale winds up solidifying the back end of the pen if they don't think they can stretch him out to start? These are possibilities that could help keep the Sox afloat, sort of the way guys like Ellsbury, Buchholz, Lester, and even Kason Gabbard came up during the 2007 season and gave them a shot in the arm. So yes, this team could win between 83 - 87 (at the high end of 87, that's 78-72 the rest of the way AFTER a long winning streak, which is solid .520 baseball, not great, but certainly not bad), but the ability to dream for more, meaning, yes, if a lot of stuff breaks right they could find their way to 90 - 95 wins, which would be astounding given where they were and damn near like 2013. IMO there is more depth in the pitching staff than the position players. When the Red Sox start Hernandez and Gonzalez (2 utility players on a regular basis) it means the other players in the lineup will consistently have to pick up the slack. They have done that so far, but the regulars will hit their slumps at some point. The mandate to stay under the CBT put Bloom in a position to spend smaller sums to fill each position, and thus the Red Sox ended up with what they have. I think the plan was to supplement with Duran and any trade deadline addition necessary if the Red Sox were actually close. Other than Duran there is not any position player that could make a major impact, whereas the pitching staff could add Houck, Seabold, Bazardo, Sale, and Brasier who are all currently not with the mlb Red Sox. The position player depth is already on the team, so if someone is injured they simply move one of the utility guy to fill the gap. Most of the position players in AAA will be simply bench players. Can this work well enough to make the playoffs? Yes, but it depends on injuries and more importantly the other teams, and how they perform.
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2021 10:25:24 GMT -5
It seems a bit premature to be setting a playoff rotation, not just because they have to make it but also because there could be a lot of flux between now and then in who are the top-3/4 guys. Let’s just hope guys like Eovaldi, Pivetta, and ERod are throwing in September like they are in April and that Sale is Sale (after all, last report he isn’t even throwing off a mound yet).
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 15, 2021 10:33:46 GMT -5
Rafael Devers is second to Judge in average Exit Velo for fly balls and line drives, 103.2 to 102.6. But that's 96.9 in the three losses and 106.9 since (18 balls in play).
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 15, 2021 10:49:53 GMT -5
Opening day there were #19: "Best case: J.D. Martinez finds his way back to his 2019 form and powers a resurgent offense to help the Red Sox hang in at just over .500 until the time Chris Sale returns. With Sale leading the pitching staff, Boston mounts a charge at 90 wins and challenges for a wild card."
After they swept the Rays they were bumped to ... #21.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 15, 2021 11:07:33 GMT -5
Years ago when I was working as an analyst at a Gvt lab, we had one scientist who was very high on the emerging paradigm of artificial intelligence - machine learning these days. His boss asked me if we needed artificial intelligence. I told him, jokingly, that we needed any intelligence we could get our hands on. If they bothered to ask me, which they won't, I'd tell ESPN the same thing.
Add: Their one-paragraph take is devoid of just about any useful information. You would think that an outfit like ESPN could get some of their people to do serious work around those ratings. But you'd be wrong.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 15, 2021 11:13:46 GMT -5
They don't really need Richards, Pivetta, or Perez to contribute to a playoff rotation if they have Sale, Rodriguez, and Eovaldi. Not to be a broken record, but if this is a .500 team, who in the AL do you think is better? Thanks to the hot start, fangraphs now projects them for the second-best record in the AL (or third going by playoff odds, 1 game behind the Astros). The rotation has question marks, but which team's doesn't? The offense has some weaknesses, but which team's doesn't? And which teams are set up to add a pitcher of Sale's caliber in July?
Those are big ifs. Let's see Nate Eovaldi stay healthy and effective for a full season. Let's make sure E-Rod makes it through the season fine (I feel more optimistic about that than Eovaldi staying healthy). Let's see if/how Sale comes back. I'm not certain he doesn't have any setbacks or is taking regular turns in the rotation by year's end. They can survive injuries or performance issues like these if Houck, Seabold, Whitlock or some combo of them step in, which is quite possible. Look, I picked the team to win 79 games and made the caveat that the team's performance could vary greatly this season, a lot more than a typical season. It's like you want me to to say, yup they won 9 games in April, so therefore pencil them in for a playoff spot. Sorry, but I'm not willing to go there. I am willing to say they look like they could be better than a .500 team and it's NOT crazy that they could be on the high end of any anticipated range or even exceed it a bit. I don't know why what I'm saying is so damn crazy or offensive or why I must now recalibrate the team as championship caliber. Let's see them play .600 ball by July, handle the Yankees, and I'll start to buy in more. We're only 12 games into the season. Well, what I explicitly asked you to say was: which teams look better? Like, yes, they need the rotation to stay healthy, but for which team is that not the case? Do the Yankees look so much more secure with three-fifths of their rotation having combined for exactly 1 IP in 2020? And like eric says, if anything the Red Sox look like they could weather an injury or two to the starting rotation better than most teams.
I predicted 86 wins and a playoff spot before the season started - partly based on what looked like a lot of parity between the 8 or 9 competitive teams in the AL. They've outperformed that pace by 2 games so far, so that should be bumped up to 88 wins. But additionally, at least some questions about the team have already gotten positive answers; in particular; JDM looks like the vintage version, and EduardoRod appears to have completely bounced back. I don't think the hot start really changes my view of this team, on balance (we are in agreement on that!), but I obviously feel even better about their making the playoffs at 88 wins than 86.
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Post by foreverred9 on Apr 15, 2021 11:20:56 GMT -5
Years ago when I was working as an analyst at a Gvt lab, we had one scientist who was very high on the emerging paradigm of artificial intelligence - machine learning these days. His boss asked me if we needed artificial intelligence. I told him, jokingly, that we needed any intelligence we could get our hands on. If they bothered to ask me, which they won't, I'd tell ESPN the same thing. Add: Their one-paragraph take is devoid of just about any useful information. You would think that an outfit like ESPN could get some of their people to do serious work around those ratings. But you'd be wrong. What have you learned in the past 9 games that is different from what you knew going into the season? They've strung together 9 fantastic games, but are you sold they are now a 90+ win team when I think the consensus pre-season on the board was in the 80s? And after three games many were ready to call that estimate ambitious too.. They have scored the second most runs in baseball, does our offense project that good going forward? The pitching staff has put up good starts with the exception of Richards in his first game, is that going to persist all year? Is Eovaldi going to remain an ace? Is Barnes going to remain a bona-fide closer? They are playing fantastic and give me a lot of hope that this could be more than a bridge year. I want to believe this team is going to be a top-10 team in baseball this year, but I'm just not there yet. We are seeing them at a peak, I'd like to see what things look like once the dust settles a bit in order to get a better view of run-rate.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 15, 2021 11:36:46 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone cares about the ESPN power rankings. It's not like they're hating on the Red Sox. Coming into the year the Red Sox were supposed to be a middle of the pack team. They've got off to a hot start so they're up to 12 in their rankings and I'm sure they'll be even higher if they continue to play well. Seems like a silly thing to get upset about.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 15, 2021 11:42:38 GMT -5
Red Sox starters have gone at least 5 innings in 11 of 12 starts. That said, IMO the 14 man pitching staff will help keep the bullpen arms fresh. Barnes usually struggles when he has been over used, so hopefully Cora will avoid doing it.
The 2004 had: GS. ERA. IN Schilling 32. 3.26. 226.2 Pedro. 33. 3.90. 217.0 Wakefield. 30. 4.87. 188.1 Lowe. 33. 5.42. 182.2 Arroyo. 29. 4.03. 178.2
The starting 5 man rotation started all but 5 game, and they really saved the bullpen. (The ERAs might look a little high, but that is to be expected from the steroid era). The main point is you either need good health or depth in your rotation, and since you can not count on health you better have depth! IMO the Red Sox rotation depth will give them an advantage over many other AL teams. (I do not care about the NL until they are in the WS and I do not think anyone expects that).
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Post by nomar on Apr 15, 2021 11:43:44 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone cares about the ESPN power rankings. It's not like they're hating on the Red Sox. Coming into the year the Red Sox were supposed to be a middle of the pack team. They've got off to a hot start so they're up to 12 in their rankings and I'm sure they'll be even higher if they continue to play well. Seems like a silly thing to get upset about. x2 Plus, I don’t even want the hype. I want to just keep grinding and drown out the noise. There’s going to be ebbs and flows but we’re starting off the ideal way.
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2021 11:44:44 GMT -5
Those are big ifs. Let's see Nate Eovaldi stay healthy and effective for a full season. Let's make sure E-Rod makes it through the season fine (I feel more optimistic about that than Eovaldi staying healthy). Let's see if/how Sale comes back. I'm not certain he doesn't have any setbacks or is taking regular turns in the rotation by year's end. They can survive injuries or performance issues like these if Houck, Seabold, Whitlock or some combo of them step in, which is quite possible. Look, I picked the team to win 79 games and made the caveat that the team's performance could vary greatly this season, a lot more than a typical season. It's like you want me to to say, yup they won 9 games in April, so therefore pencil them in for a playoff spot. Sorry, but I'm not willing to go there. I am willing to say they look like they could be better than a .500 team and it's NOT crazy that they could be on the high end of any anticipated range or even exceed it a bit. I don't know why what I'm saying is so damn crazy or offensive or why I must now recalibrate the team as championship caliber. Let's see them play .600 ball by July, handle the Yankees, and I'll start to buy in more. We're only 12 games into the season. Well, what I explicitly asked you to say was: which teams look better? Like, yes, they need the rotation to stay healthy, but for which team is that not the case? Do the Yankees look so much more secure with three-fifths of their rotation having combined for exactly 1 IP in 2020? And like eric says, if anything the Red Sox look like they could weather an injury or two to the starting rotation better than most teams.
I predicted 86 wins and a playoff spot before the season started - partly based on what looked like a lot of parity between the 8 or 9 competitive teams in the AL. They've outperformed that pace by 2 games so far, so that should be bumped up to 88 wins. But additionally, at least some questions about the team have already gotten positive answers; in particular; JDM looks like the vintage version, and EduardoRod appears to have completely bounced back. I don't think the hot start really changes my view of this team, on balance (we are in agreement on that!), but I obviously feel even better about their making the playoffs at 88 wins than 86.
This is fair. But we are still at the point in the season when a lot of teams’ boards could have the “who is better than us” conversation. That is, while I am reluctant to point to teams like the Twins and say “they are better,” I am also not going to say they won’t eke out a WC ahead of the Sox. Yes, the Sox won 3 out of 3, but those were real contests where the Twins didn’t look like a team that won’t win their share of close games too. We have a lot of talk about bad luck on this board... balls that should have been hits etc. Well, those games were a few breaks one way or the other. So many games are and will be. There is too much season left with too many breaks to say how teams like the Jays, Yanks, Twins, White Sox, Angels, Astros, Red Sox etc will stack up. Hell, throw in the Indians and even the Royals. I’m not sure “better team” always means the team that makes the postseason anyway. That said, my main take away thus far is moving from a “I don’t see it” to “sure, I see it” view of the playoffs at all. That’s as certain as I’m gunna get for another 60+ games.
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 15, 2021 11:53:02 GMT -5
Re: Kiké
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 15, 2021 11:56:16 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone cares about the ESPN power rankings. It's not like they're hating on the Red Sox. Coming into the year the Red Sox were supposed to be a middle of the pack team. They've got off to a hot start so they're up to 12 in their rankings and I'm sure they'll be even higher if they continue to play well. Seems like a silly thing to get upset about. It's just a general gripe I have with outfits that cast themselves as professionals. If the evidence for that claim isn't there then they need to be called out. The Sox had a top offense last year, even with Martinez under-performing. What they were missing entirely, and probably purposefully given the imposed spending constraints, was pitching. They have that now and it isn't rocket science to change the narrative to reflect that.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 15, 2021 11:58:14 GMT -5
Well, what I explicitly asked you to say was: which teams look better? Like, yes, they need the rotation to stay healthy, but for which team is that not the case? Do the Yankees look so much more secure with three-fifths of their rotation having combined for exactly 1 IP in 2020? And like eric says, if anything the Red Sox look like they could weather an injury or two to the starting rotation better than most teams.
I predicted 86 wins and a playoff spot before the season started - partly based on what looked like a lot of parity between the 8 or 9 competitive teams in the AL. They've outperformed that pace by 2 games so far, so that should be bumped up to 88 wins. But additionally, at least some questions about the team have already gotten positive answers; in particular; JDM looks like the vintage version, and EduardoRod appears to have completely bounced back. I don't think the hot start really changes my view of this team, on balance (we are in agreement on that!), but I obviously feel even better about their making the playoffs at 88 wins than 86.
This is fair. But we are still at the point in the season when a lot of teams’ boards could have the “who is better than us” conversation. That is, while I am reluctant to point to teams like the Twins and say “they are better,” I am also not going to say they won’t eke out a WC ahead of the Sox. Yes, the Sox won 3 out of 3, but those were real contests where the Twins didn’t look like a team that won’t win their share of close games too. We have a lot of talk about bad luck on this board... balls that should have been hits etc. Well, those games were a few breaks one way or the other. So many games are and will be. There is too much season left with too many breaks to say how teams like the Jays, Yanks, Twins, White Sox, Angels, Astros, Red Sox etc will stack up. Hell, throw in the Indians and even the Royals. I’m not sure “better team” always means the team that makes the postseason anyway. That said, my main take away thus far is moving from a “I don’t see it” to “sure, I see it” view of the playoffs at all. That’s as certain as I’m gunna get for another 60+ games. Agree with all that! Basically, to a first approximation I think the Red Sox, Jays, Twins, White Sox, Astros, and Angels are all evenly matched, with the Rays, A's, Indians, and maybe even the Royals not far behind. But the Red Sox have a 2-4 game lead on all those teams now.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 15, 2021 11:59:23 GMT -5
I have tickets for tomorrow. How do I found out if the game is rained out and what to do?
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2021 12:04:46 GMT -5
It is funny how different I feel on Garrett Richards days. No hits? No outs? No strikes? Exciting!
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Post by cdj on Apr 15, 2021 12:19:44 GMT -5
Richards was fine/good last time out
I’ve seen Sox fans actively rooting against him online, makes no sense to me. They act like he’s garbage when he would’ve been their best pitcher last year. I imagine it’s just a vocal minority
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 15, 2021 12:25:37 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone cares about the ESPN power rankings. It's not like they're hating on the Red Sox. Coming into the year the Red Sox were supposed to be a middle of the pack team. They've got off to a hot start so they're up to 12 in their rankings and I'm sure they'll be even higher if they continue to play well. Seems like a silly thing to get upset about. It's just a general gripe I have with outfits that cast themselves as professionals. If the evidence for that claim isn't there then they need to be called out. The Sox had a top offense last year, even with Martinez under-performing. What they were missing entirely, and probably purposefully given the imposed spending constraints, was pitching. They have that now and it isn't rocket science to change the narrative to reflect that. ESPN has always given the Red Sox a raw deal.....like it is run by a bunch of Yankee homers. I rarely buy into their opinions. I only go there for standings and stats. Their opinions are garbage.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 15, 2021 12:25:49 GMT -5
Pineda's body is looking very Bartolo Colon these days, but like Bartolo he's always seemed to retain the ability to throw strikes and dot the edges of the zone.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 15, 2021 12:31:45 GMT -5
Those are big ifs. Let's see Nate Eovaldi stay healthy and effective for a full season. Let's make sure E-Rod makes it through the season fine (I feel more optimistic about that than Eovaldi staying healthy). Let's see if/how Sale comes back. I'm not certain he doesn't have any setbacks or is taking regular turns in the rotation by year's end. They can survive injuries or performance issues like these if Houck, Seabold, Whitlock or some combo of them step in, which is quite possible. Look, I picked the team to win 79 games and made the caveat that the team's performance could vary greatly this season, a lot more than a typical season. It's like you want me to to say, yup they won 9 games in April, so therefore pencil them in for a playoff spot. Sorry, but I'm not willing to go there. I am willing to say they look like they could be better than a .500 team and it's NOT crazy that they could be on the high end of any anticipated range or even exceed it a bit. I don't know why what I'm saying is so damn crazy or offensive or why I must now recalibrate the team as championship caliber. Let's see them play .600 ball by July, handle the Yankees, and I'll start to buy in more. We're only 12 games into the season. Well, what I explicitly asked you to say was: which teams look better? Like, yes, they need the rotation to stay healthy, but for which team is that not the case? Do the Yankees look so much more secure with three-fifths of their rotation having combined for exactly 1 IP in 2020? And like eric says, if anything the Red Sox look like they could weather an injury or two to the starting rotation better than most teams.
I predicted 86 wins and a playoff spot before the season started - partly based on what looked like a lot of parity between the 8 or 9 competitive teams in the AL. They've outperformed that pace by 2 games so far, so that should be bumped up to 88 wins. But additionally, at least some questions about the team have already gotten positive answers; in particular; JDM looks like the vintage version, and EduardoRod appears to have completely bounced back. I don't think the hot start really changes my view of this team, on balance (we are in agreement on that!), but I obviously feel even better about their making the playoffs at 88 wins than 86.
Honestly it doesn't matter what you project or what I project. They're going to do what they're going to do, regardless. Right now the Red Sox have looked unbeatable and the rest of the division looks like a mess. That can change. Teams have stretches where they play like juggernauts and they have stretches where they can't get out of their own way. All we have to go by is a very encouraging 12 game stretch. I'll enjoy the ride while hoping that this is a taste of things to come, but I won't commit to this team necessarily being a playoff team, but I won't write it off either, which is more than I would have said 12 games ago - hell even then I said this team had a wide range of outcomes, although I didn't see them in the 90s victory category, so maybe, just maybe, but I think this team, like all the others, will have bumps in the road, ones that are worse than 0-3 and last longer and do more damage which is why I'm not ready to print out world series tickets. But then again, that's what I think. So the hell what? The Sox might have other ideas and make me look foolish? And if they do? Well, that means they're doing well, and that's a helluva lot better than being one of those people that say, "See, I'm right...", as if that actually matters.
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Post by jkfer98 on Apr 15, 2021 12:35:38 GMT -5
Christian "Derek Jeter" Vazquez
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Post by jkfer98 on Apr 15, 2021 12:44:53 GMT -5
Does anyone have more warning track power than we do? Rough!
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