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5/14-5/16 Red Sox vs. Angels Series Thread
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Post by manfred on May 15, 2021 18:08:21 GMT -5
You tell me Valdez, Hernandez, and Brice pitched... I might not think the Sox win by shutout.
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Post by cheers on May 15, 2021 18:10:59 GMT -5
It is really nice having a rotation where I don't have to think "oh no". Five guys doing a pretty good job. No aces, but no cannon fodder. What a pleasant change from last year - having a reasonably good shot to win every day.
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Post by shagworthy on May 15, 2021 18:17:28 GMT -5
Gentlemen sheesh!
It was a good win, can we take a step back from the ledge of attacking each other for our opinions on certain players? JFC, reading through this thread tonight you’d think the Sox loss, And Cordero had sexual relations with your wife in left field on national television.
I hope the best for FC, and that will probably include a stint in AAA.
I’m excited that this late in the season we keep winning.
Every day we are above the Yankees in the standing is a good day for me, especially considering going in, I did not foresee this being a reality.
i’m learning to love how much the national media shits on the Sox, and every time they do this version of the team fights right back between the lines, instead of in the paper.
Great win, and hopefully we can put an exclamation point with a sweep. 3 Days ago everyone was thinking this was when the Sox gave up 1st for good.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2021 18:24:03 GMT -5
Hell of a bounce back from the sloppy baseball played against Detroit + Oakland. It’s night and day
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Post by Guidas on May 15, 2021 18:27:20 GMT -5
Great win!
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 15, 2021 18:44:30 GMT -5
Team is trying to make it up to Perez all in in one game. Admirable! I looked back at all Perez’s starts and he has pitched well enough to have 4 wins....easily! Today would be #5.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 15, 2021 18:52:01 GMT -5
It is really nice having a rotation where I don't have to think "oh no". Five guys doing a pretty good job. No aces, but no cannon fodder. What a pleasant change from last year - having a reasonably good shot to win every day. Bloom said to tell you thanks for the compliment 😀👍🏻
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 15, 2021 18:59:05 GMT -5
All - please refrain from back and forth attacks. That won't be tolerated here. Thanks.
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Post by TearsIn04 on May 15, 2021 19:28:08 GMT -5
Gentlemen sheesh! It was a good win, can we take a step back from the ledge of attacking each other for our opinions on certain players? JFC, reading through this thread tonight you’d think the Sox loss, And Cordero had sexual relations with your wife in left field on national television. Franchy would definitely hear from me if he did that. The Fenway lawn is beautiful, hallowed and sacred. I would personally harm anyone who mussed it. But, yes, the game was a lot better than the gamethread, which degenerated into posters going back and forth about each other's mental health. I think it's safe to say that nearly everyone, if not everyone, who posts on this board is spectacularly unqualified to make mental health diagnoses.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2021 19:29:28 GMT -5
It’s not that serious guys.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 15, 2021 20:19:11 GMT -5
25-16, 2.5 game lead, +46 scoring differential. Xander and JD anchoring the offense with Raffi just behind. Our starters 18-7. A real closer.
Life is good.
Great win today.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 15, 2021 20:24:52 GMT -5
25-16, 2.5 game lead, +46 scoring differential. Xander and JD anchoring the offense with Raffi just behind. Our starters 18-7. A real closer. Life is good. Great win today. Not even June yet but I definitely think this team will be buyers at the deadline. I haven't done any research but hopefully they can add a piece or two without giving up any solid prospects. I wouldn't hate them staying under the luxury tax again but that seems unlikely if they do end up adding some good pieces.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 15, 2021 21:20:58 GMT -5
The Wilsonians are content that their guy has had a fine two weeks in AAA, not AA.
Soon, Rosario may be part of the daily drama
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 15, 2021 22:13:10 GMT -5
Gentlemen sheesh! It was a good win, can we take a step back from the ledge of attacking each other for our opinions on certain players? JFC, reading through this thread tonight you’d think the Sox loss, And Cordero had sexual relations with your wife in left field on national television. Franchy would definitely hear from me if he did that. The Fenway lawn is beautiful, hallowed and sacred. I would personally harm anyone who mussed it. But, yes, the game was a lot better than the gamethread, which degenerated into posters going back and forth about each other's mental health. I think it's safe to say that nearly everyone, if not everyone, who posts on this board is spectacularly unqualified to make mental health diagnoses. If inner experience counts, I'm imminently qualified. Really though, not looking at those type posts once they start isn't all that difficult a task. It's usually a battle of the wits between unarmed opponents.
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 15, 2021 23:13:25 GMT -5
You tell me Valdez, Hernandez, and Brice pitched... I might not think the Sox win by shutout. You should check out Valdez' numbers. He generates just about the weakest contact of any MLB pitcher, and very poor exit velocities as a result. He's sneaky good, a real find. I don't think the team is reluctant to use him in middle relief no matter what the score is. He's also seen the world, or what passes for it in the realm of the minor and winter leagues. Have rubber arm will travel!
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 15, 2021 23:37:19 GMT -5
41 games complete and the Red Sox 25-16, and their .610 winning percentage are the best in baseball !!
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Post by manfred on May 15, 2021 23:46:38 GMT -5
You tell me Valdez, Hernandez, and Brice pitched... I might not think the Sox win by shutout. You should check out Valdez' numbers. He generates just about the weakest contact of any MLB pitcher, and very poor exit velocities as a result. He's sneaky good, a real find. I don't think the team is reluctant to use him in middle relief no matter what the score is. He's also seen the world, or what passes for it in the realm of the minor and winter leagues. Have rubber arm will travel! Not a comment on quality... more use.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2021 0:03:26 GMT -5
This Cordero infatuation is weird. You'd think this is the first time a marginal player with upside struggled and is likely to be demoted to improve upon his weaknesses. I'm disappointed Cordero hasn't produced, but in the end we're talking about 50 - 100 really bad ABs, not a bigger sample size. I'm not trying to say he hasn't played terribly, but I'm saying other players have come in and stunk up the joint just as bad. I would anticipate that once Santana is ready, Cordero will be headed to Worcester, but the incessant harping on him when he's not even playing is kind of weird. I was hoping he'd develop into a good strong half of a platoon player in LF and it's not out of the question that he might. You never know when a switch can turn something on. It's not like he doesn't have talent. Look at the switch that got turned on for Garrett Richards or Nick Pivetta. Maybe they can figure out something with him that can translate to results, but either way I'm not going to dump on him when he hasn't even played. It's not like he has some police record or attitude issue, or at least one we know about. I'm rooting for this kid to get his act together, get back up to the Red Sox and help out, whether it's him re-claiming an outfield spot or just coming up and contributing a key HR in a big game from off the bench or whatever. .150//.209/.188 is decidedly NOT marginal. It is sub-replacement level. The Sox should theoretically be able to take almost any average or above average AAA OF and get better production. I think you misunderstood my post. I wasn't calling his current production "marginal". We both agree it has been sub-replacement level although he did indeed have a good game on Saturday. That said, so did Danny Santana in Worcester. It might be getting close to the time they swap places. When I was referring to him as "marginal", I was referring to his major league performance prior to the Red Sox/Royals trade. I think "marginal" is a reasonable description for a guy with lifetime (albeit limited) numbers with an OPS+ around 97, which is better than replacement level, but a little below average.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2021 0:05:41 GMT -5
You should check out Valdez' numbers. He generates just about the weakest contact of any MLB pitcher, and very poor exit velocities as a result. He's sneaky good, a real find. I don't think the team is reluctant to use him in middle relief no matter what the score is. He's also seen the world, or what passes for it in the realm of the minor and winter leagues. Have rubber arm will travel! Not a comment on quality... more use. Yeah, unless he's injured I don't think Cora needs to give him anymore two week vacations. Instead he should be finding himself in higher leverage situations, perhaps the situations Cora has been trying to fit Andriese into. Maybe Cora should back Andriese up into the 5th and/or 6th inning in lower leverage situations. Let Valdez get a crack at the 7th inning in a higher leverage setting.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2021 0:12:04 GMT -5
Nice game by the Sox on Saturday. Perez was impressive again in earning his first win. Honestly he's probably earned a few more wins than that but has had some bad run support/bullpen support.
I wasn't a big fan of the Perez re-signing and I still think he'll find his way up toward a 5 ERA, but right now he's nowhere near there so kudos to him for pitching. Great performance for a #5 starter and valuable because his lack of stinkers have allowed the bullpen not to get overextended.
Good to see Dalbec heating up. Hope it lasts longer. Nice bomb by X and another blast by Raffy. And Franchy chipped in nicely. And the great thing about a blow-out win is that it sets the bullpen up nicely for a chance to win a close game on Sunday. At this rate, they'll need to sweep. As great as the Sox have played (best record in baseball), their margin for error is really slim. The Yankees, Rays, and Jays keep winning and are not too far back, and even in the wild card race, Cleveland is on Chicago's tail, and Houston and Oakland are in a similar situation and their records aren't too far off the Sox. One bad streak and next thing you know you're not even a second wild card. The AL must be killing the NL in interleague, which is probably why other than Minny and Detroit stinking the joint up every other AL team has a strong record.
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Post by cdj on May 16, 2021 0:56:16 GMT -5
Damn Quintana has been getting lit up
I would imagine the Sox lineup is not one you like seeing as a struggling lefty.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 16, 2021 2:50:55 GMT -5
Nice game by the Sox on Saturday. Perez was impressive again in Great performance Raffy. And Franchy chipped in nicely. And the great thing about a blow-out win is that it sets the bullpen up nicely for a chance to win a close game on Sunday. At this rate, they'll need to sweep. As great as the Sox have played (best record in baseball), their margin for error is really slim. The Yankees, Rays, and Jays keep winning and are not too far back, and even in the wild card race, Cleveland is on Chicago's tail, and Houston and Oakland are in a similar situation and their records aren't too far off the Sox. One bad streak and next thing you know you're not even a second wild card. The AL must be killing the NL in interleague, which is probably why other than Minny and Detroit stinking the joint up every other AL team has a strong record. The AL is 3 games over .500
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Post by greatscottcooper on May 16, 2021 7:57:03 GMT -5
Gentlemen sheesh! It was a good win, can we take a step back from the ledge of attacking each other for our opinions on certain players? JFC, reading through this thread tonight you’d think the Sox loss, And Cordero had sexual relations with your wife in left field on national television. I hope the best for FC, and that will probably include a stint in AAA. I’m excited that this late in the season we keep winning. Every day we are above the Yankees in the standing is a good day for me, especially considering going in, I did not foresee this being a reality. i’m learning to love how much the national media shits on the Sox, and every time they do this version of the team fights right back between the lines, instead of in the paper. Great win, and hopefully we can put an exclamation point with a sweep. 3 Days ago everyone was thinking this was when the Sox gave up 1st for good. I don't know about Cordero but if it was Jake Taylor I'd be really excited.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2021 8:08:22 GMT -5
Nice game by the Sox on Saturday. Perez was impressive again in Great performance Raffy. And Franchy chipped in nicely. And the great thing about a blow-out win is that it sets the bullpen up nicely for a chance to win a close game on Sunday. At this rate, they'll need to sweep. As great as the Sox have played (best record in baseball), their margin for error is really slim. The Yankees, Rays, and Jays keep winning and are not too far back, and even in the wild card race, Cleveland is on Chicago's tail, and Houston and Oakland are in a similar situation and their records aren't too far off the Sox. One bad streak and next thing you know you're not even a second wild card. The AL must be killing the NL in interleague, which is probably why other than Minny and Detroit stinking the joint up every other AL team has a strong record. The AL is 3 games over .500 That's it? I guess then it must be the suckiness of the Tigers and (surprisingly) the Twins. The Rockies are bad in the NL but I don't think they're playing at that level - yet.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 16, 2021 9:46:44 GMT -5
I saw 1 game live with Dalbec in AA, was 2019. He was knocking it around the park that day and it was with such ease that I couldn't help but dream. That kind of easy power; just is a riot to watch. I know there has been some bad luck and underperformance, but i feel like he has to get 1k ML at-bats before any decision is even considered. Short of a Franchy implosion, the Sox need to stick with him. If we end up holding out too long and Cases forces him out and we have no trade value because he never progressed, then I am OK with that. What? Casas, the guy that only plays 1b and is two years away. Franchy already has no trade value and has imploded already. Dude. 1k at-bats is 2 yrs. By then Cases will be over 23 yrs old. He is being groomed to be the Sox 1B of the future. Pretty sure they want Cases on the club by opening day 2023, if not sooner. Dalbec can play other positions at that point. The larger point is i don't care if Dalbec crashes and burns...i want him to get his 1k in the Sox uniform. You think that kind of power is easy to find ??
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