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Post by texs31 on Jul 27, 2021 13:02:43 GMT -5
He can play his offwing but, unless this is for 3LW (and freeing up JD to trade), I'm not sure how you fill the rest of the needs.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 27, 2021 14:01:03 GMT -5
He can play his offwing but, unless this is for 3LW (and freeing up JD to trade), I'm not sure how you fill the rest of the needs. Assuming Krejci is back, I would definitely assume Coleman is the 3rd line LW with bonus versatility. Don't know what his price would be (how excited to be to get him obviously dependent on that), but I am guessing/hoping that he and a DeBrusk move only costs a net of a coupe mil (with assets coming back in the trade). Be happy with: Marchy-Bergeron-Pasta Hall-Krejci-Smith Coleman-Coyle-Studnicka Frederic-Lazar-Wagner With a cheap depth option or two added (Kase back at cheap money would be nice). Then sign a cheap vet G and focus on D.
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2021 14:23:04 GMT -5
Being tied to Goligoski now
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2021 14:24:05 GMT -5
Elliot Friedman thinks Boston might be in on Blake Coleman and that might be why they changed tune on the QOs The contract will be bad but the player is a perfect fit in this city and would be beloved enough to offset any bad feelings about the bad contract
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Post by texs31 on Jul 27, 2021 14:31:01 GMT -5
Goligoski is a bit old for my preference but it makes sense as a top 4 LHD who can play both on PP and PK.
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Post by karl1 on Jul 27, 2021 14:31:14 GMT -5
Elliot Friedman thinks Boston might be in on Blake Coleman and that might be why they changed tune on the QOs The contract will be bad but the player is a perfect fit in this city and would be beloved enough to offset any bad feelings about the bad contract Some kind of a feel good story and someone to identify with? I agree that is sometimes worth a bad contract.
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2021 14:41:43 GMT -5
The contract will be bad but the player is a perfect fit in this city and would be beloved enough to offset any bad feelings about the bad contract Some kind of a feel good story and someone to identify with? I agree that is sometimes worth a bad contract. Exactly. He’s a blue collar guy that will set the tone every night. He’ll probably end up with like 5/25 but there’s something to be said for a guy who can help a team with its identity. That’s mostly why Backes got the money and term he got. I don’t think it’s a coincidence they started making the playoffs again when Backes showed up. These types of guys make a difference, even when they’re overpaid in free agency. Now it would be hard for Coleman to have as much bad luck as Backes so he should hopefully last a little longer
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Post by tizzle on Jul 27, 2021 15:33:28 GMT -5
Being tied to Goligoski now Not very excited about that, but the Free Agent LHD options are getting limited, with the top guys right now probably being Suter, Goligoski and Chara. EDIT: Should really add Reilly, he's at least as good as most of the above options, though whether he's what we need is debatable.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 27, 2021 15:38:06 GMT -5
Being tied to Goligoski now Not very excited about that, but the Free Agent LHD options are getting limited, with the top guys right now probably being Suter, Goligoski and Chara. As long as it's just a 1 year deal at small money, I'm fine. Give another year to see if anyone can step up, I guess. As you suggest, options are limited.
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2021 15:53:11 GMT -5
Best possible acquisition at this point is probably Ekholm
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Post by texs31 on Jul 27, 2021 17:50:27 GMT -5
Looks like Reilly is returning for 3 yrs/3M per. Pierre LeBrun confirming a Michael Russo report.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 27, 2021 18:03:08 GMT -5
Nate Schmidt was another possibility (trade) but it looks like he's getting moved to Winnipeg.
EDIT - though 4 more years at just under 6 may not have been a good move to make.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 27, 2021 18:43:27 GMT -5
Some kind of a feel good story and someone to identify with? I agree that is sometimes worth a bad contract. Exactly. He’s a blue collar guy that will set the tone every night. He’ll probably end up with like 5/25 but there’s something to be said for a guy who can help a team with its identity. That’s mostly why Backes got the money and term he got. I don’t think it’s a coincidence they started making the playoffs again when Backes showed up. These types of guys make a difference, even when they’re overpaid in free agency. Now it would be hard for Coleman to have as much bad luck as Backes so he should hopefully last a little longer I don't think 3rd line guys get 5/25, but I like the player.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 27, 2021 18:46:01 GMT -5
It's hard to keep up with all the action when the NHL, NBA and MLB all have talks and deals going on at the same time.
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2021 18:55:14 GMT -5
Exactly. He’s a blue collar guy that will set the tone every night. He’ll probably end up with like 5/25 but there’s something to be said for a guy who can help a team with its identity. That’s mostly why Backes got the money and term he got. I don’t think it’s a coincidence they started making the playoffs again when Backes showed up. These types of guys make a difference, even when they’re overpaid in free agency. Now it would be hard for Coleman to have as much bad luck as Backes so he should hopefully last a little longer I don't think 3rd line guys get 5/25, but I like the player. He absolutely shouldn’t get that but those physical guys that can score 20 and show up in the playoffs get paid a premium in UFA
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 27, 2021 19:30:17 GMT -5
I like Reilly at 3/9 and with Krejci coming back the B's are almost done. Not sure how much money will be left after the Krejci deal but I hope it's enough to get a top 4 LDman.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 27, 2021 20:32:28 GMT -5
Best possible acquisition at this point is probably Ekholm To be clear, he was always the best option. He's better than anyone we've discussed (Martinez is arguable). Really good on D and a well above average puck mover, plays a lot and last year he was banged up after being an Ironman for years. Would be perfect if they still want to move him and the price doesn't get too crazy. I was thinking of posting something earlier about this- While I am definitely not anti-Grzelcyk (horrible final game notwithstanding), I would be a lot more content with our other D options if we could upgrade him. I'd be happy if we could, through a couple of deals, turn Grzelcyk, DeBrusk and Zboril into Ekholm and some pieces (at a minimum a RH depth D guy and recouping our 3rd from the Reilly deal). Something like that and I'd fell a good deal better abut going with a Reilly and someone like a Jake McCabe as our 2nd and 3rd pairing LHD, maybe interchangeably, if we have such a strong top pair and Carlo on the second.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 27, 2021 20:35:18 GMT -5
Looks like Reilly is returning for 3 yrs/3M per. Pierre LeBrun confirming a Michael Russo report. Not thrilling, but again, the options don't look great and the money isn't terrible, though I was hoping if we brought him back it would be for a bit less.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 28, 2021 6:30:18 GMT -5
Looks like Reilly is returning for 3 yrs/3M per. Pierre LeBrun confirming a Michael Russo report. Not thrilling, but again, the options don't look great and the money isn't terrible, though I was hoping if we brought him back it would be for a bit less. That’s a pretty nice value though, both in terms of years and money. Their options were limited so it’s a very smart sign. If he continues to produce like he did last year or last year was just year one in a jump of play then he’s a super valuable trade chip, down the line if the fit isn’t the best with Gryz around.
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Post by cdj on Jul 28, 2021 8:39:50 GMT -5
Reilly looks his best when paired with Carlo, they’re a really good fit for each other
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Post by cdj on Jul 28, 2021 9:45:56 GMT -5
Flames look to be getting Zadorov
Perhaps that makes Hanifin available?
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Post by sportshubby on Jul 28, 2021 9:59:32 GMT -5
Just a commoletely random never will happen type lineup change. Before I say it, I know all the reasons it doesn't work, but I think it would be interesting matching up lines for opponents.
Switch Smith and Pastrnak, so you have krecji with Pasta and Hall, but then you have a line of Bergeron with Marchand and Smith.
This has been my recent daydream distraction when I should be working. That said, I am real interested what new blood the team will be able to bring in. Lost a lot of depth already. Just hoping for reasonable contracts. But day 1 rarely brings reasonable contracts.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 28, 2021 10:38:27 GMT -5
Coleman signing with Calgary instead. 6 yrs!!! 4.9 per
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Post by texs31 on Jul 28, 2021 11:14:18 GMT -5
Looks like Forbort is getting the same deal from Boston that Reilly got.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 28, 2021 11:16:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't have wanted to go 4 years for Suter, but at that AAV, I probably would have bitten the bullet and done it.
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