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Post by benzinger on Jun 24, 2021 16:03:26 GMT -5
As predicted - Chavis over Franchy. Still think they should release Santana, but I also think, especially with his speed, Santana is only hurting himself and the team by not bunting for a base hit (or more, with is wheels) whenever they shift on him. If he's worried about "getting out of his approach," he may want to take note that his approach has yielded a negative WAR. Bunting? What’s that? Do you really think that is something the Red Sox would do much of in 2021?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 24, 2021 16:05:29 GMT -5
Here's hoping Michael Wacha pitches as well tonight as he did on Oct 30, 2013 when the Sox partied at Fenway like they've never partied before.
Just as I didn't think they had a chance last night with Richards, the Sox have a really good shot to get some offense going tonight. Just hope Pivetta doesn't get wild, walk guys and then give up 3 run HRs. Tonight's a big game, especially with the Yankees inching closer as well.
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Post by benzinger on Jun 24, 2021 16:07:10 GMT -5
I’m curious...do the Red Sox have the worst leadoff production in MLB? Because it certainly feels that way. Kikè was a disaster and Santana might actually be worse(somehow). They already have a true leadoff hitter tearing up the minors in Duran. I can’t see how they go another day without getting him up and in the lineup ahead of Verdugo, JDM, Xander and Devers. Haven’t they seen enough?? I know I have. What have they got to lose? Yes. www.baseball-reference.com/tools/split_stats_lg.cgi?full=1¶ms=lineu%7CBatting%201st%7CML%7C2021%7Cbat%7CAB%7CWow. It actually hurt my eyes to look at that link you posted. Duran should have been up to fill that void a month ago. I’m not sure what’s going on with him to explain why he’s still at AAA(service time manipulation??). I’m pretty sure it’s costing them games at the Major League level, though. I guess everyone is OK with that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by shagworthy on Jun 24, 2021 16:17:53 GMT -5
Wow. It actually hurt my eyes to look at that link you posted. Duran should have been up to fill that void a month ago. I’m not sure what’s going on with him to explain why he’s still at AAA(service time manipulation??). I’m pretty sure it’s costing them games at the Major League level, though. I guess everyone is OK with that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know about costing them games per say. The Sox have fared well offensively despite a bad leadoff hitter and holes intermittently 7-9. That said, I would rather Duran be with the big club, but even when he comes up I don't want to slam him right into the leadoff and the fire game 1. Let him get a week in the 9th spot, pick your poison for the first hitter, and then after the first week re-evaluate. He would still represent a net positive pretty much anywhere in the lineup if he can mimic his AAA numbers. Any word on whether Santana can throw a knuckleball? That's about the only way I want to keep that experiment alive. At this point I'd rather see Arauz get a shot, kid seemed to have professional at bats last year on limited time, and solid defense, god knows we could use someone with a glove.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 24, 2021 16:44:10 GMT -5
Wow. It actually hurt my eyes to look at that link you posted. Duran should have been up to fill that void a month ago. I’m not sure what’s going on with him to explain why he’s still at AAA(service time manipulation??). I’m pretty sure it’s costing them games at the Major League level, though. I guess everyone is OK with that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know about costing them games per say. The Sox have fared well offensively despite a bad leadoff hitter and holes intermittently 7-9. That said, I would rather Duran be with the big club, but even when he comes up I don't want to slam him right into the leadoff and the fire game 1. Let him get a week in the 9th spot, pick your poison for the first hitter, and then after the first week re-evaluate. He would still represent a net positive pretty much anywhere in the lineup if he can mimic his AAA numbers. All I hear about all the time is how major league hitters are delicate flowers who wilt entirely if you shift them so much as one spot in the batting order. If that's so, wouldn't the easiest thing for Duran (and the best thing for the team) be to leave him in the leadoff spot he's accustomed to, rather than have him sit around and think about his first at bat for an hour each game? I noticed the Rays plunked Franco right into the 2 spot...
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Post by foreverred9 on Jun 24, 2021 17:01:25 GMT -5
Like I said, 100% of nothing.... Maybe the pandemic will cause some pragmatism. They have lots of advisors to let them know how stupid they would be to cook the golden egg. Hope you're right because if they wipe out the 2022 season I could see it dragging into the 2023 season and abbreviating that season. We should probably take this over to another thread, but trust is the core of the issue. The spin game is going strong, and there's so much BS out there that I would definitely recommend reading everything with a skeptical lens. Reality: MLB teams have realized that they could get more value with cost-controlled players than over-paid 30-somethings Optics: Average salary has remained flat at 4.4M since 2016 ( actually is down in 2021) Perception: MLB is screwing over the players Reality: MLB has seen massive upticks in revenues, in particular the digital space Optics: the valuation of clubs has skyrocketed (in combination with the flat costs noted above) Perception: MLB is screwing over the players Some may call this screwing over the players, I look at this as optimizing the current system that's in place. Now that we see the stuff we don't like, just fix it! Unfortunately it's not that simple though. To be fair, I think the players are being screwed over, but it's in part their own doing. They have consistently refused any form of a salary cap or index of their wages as a percentage of revenues, so as revenues soared they've lost out. That's the risk they took, and if they didn't fully understand that risk when they negotiated then shame on their leadership (who they elected) for pushing whatever agenda they were pushing. With that said, they deserve more money. Revenues soaring and salaries flattening is ridiculous. My personal opinion is they need to fix the imbalance between cost-controlled players and free agents, MLB has clearly figured out they are better with younger and cheaper talent. Why pay 8-9M per WAR on the free agent market when you can pay 1-2M per WAR via a good farm system? But then, why is it fair to pay young talent 1-2M per WAR? ADD: at the same time, this is also why I don't care to listen to teams complain about the money they lost in 2020. They've made a ton these past few years as revenues soared.
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Post by lostinnewjersey on Jun 24, 2021 18:09:44 GMT -5
Forget service time and make every player a free agent at a certain age -- maybe 27? That way they'll come up whenever they're ready, and they can sign a free agent contract before they hit the down side of their career.
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Post by manfred on Jun 24, 2021 18:29:55 GMT -5
You might say I’m less worried about Pivetta.
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Post by kjkramer on Jun 24, 2021 18:31:10 GMT -5
What was that from Pivetta? Woah. When did he become a RH Sale? That was filthy
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2021 18:31:26 GMT -5
Cy Pivetta! Nicky don’t need no sticky stuff.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2021 18:35:14 GMT -5
Two walks. Please make em pay, Hunter.
edit. Oh well.
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Post by wildsox on Jun 24, 2021 18:48:52 GMT -5
Pivetta is real good when he gets in rhythm
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Post by manfred on Jun 24, 2021 18:52:12 GMT -5
Pivetta is real good when he gets in rhythm Hitting 99 helps!
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 24, 2021 18:52:15 GMT -5
Duran Casas please
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Post by manfred on Jun 24, 2021 19:00:23 GMT -5
Ooof. Pivetta looking the best I’ve seen him.
Add: dude’s serious. 9-up, 9-down, and he comes off the field shaking his head like he isn’t up to snuff.
I dig this kid.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jun 24, 2021 19:14:33 GMT -5
Workman for pivetta and seabold was a stroke of genius by Bloom.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2021 19:20:42 GMT -5
Helped out by a base running mistake, but Pivetta is DEALING.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 24, 2021 19:23:29 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Jun 24, 2021 19:26:38 GMT -5
Rays have made multiple embarrassing plays every game this series.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 24, 2021 19:28:25 GMT -5
sigh, bobbys back in one of his swing and miss ruts
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2021 19:28:50 GMT -5
Oh, Bobby.
He’s really struggling to make contact. It’s hard to watch.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 24, 2021 19:29:39 GMT -5
IDK, planning a lineup with a batter who fans 8 of the 9 times in the series seems more embarrassing than turning on a base and missing the base by an inch.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2021 19:31:38 GMT -5
As predicted - Chavis over Franchy. Still think they should release Santana, but I also think, especially with his speed, Santana is only hurting himself and the team by not bunting for a base hit (or more, with is wheels) whenever they shift on him. If he's worried about "getting out of his approach," he may want to take note that his approach has yielded a negative WAR. Bunting? What’s that? Do you really think that is something the Red Sox would do much of in 2021? For a hit it fits getting men on and scoring runs. For sacrifice, it’s generally a bad move unless in the bottom of the 9th in a tie game with a man on 3rd and 1 out or less. And even then, low success rate unless you have a good bunter at the plate. But for a lead-off hit by a sub-300OBP. batter with speed it’s a great tactic.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jun 24, 2021 19:35:14 GMT -5
Mookie who??
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 24, 2021 19:39:09 GMT -5
I seriously had no idea Renfroe was anywhere near this good defensively, no idea.
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