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Post by philarhody on Jul 30, 2021 18:14:38 GMT -5
Left field in Fenway is a nice spot for Schwarber. Doubt he plays an average 1st base, especially considering height. Hope he resigns and fills that left field spot for the foreseeable future.
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Post by ep51 on Jul 30, 2021 18:53:26 GMT -5
Left field in Fenway is a nice spot for Schwarber. Doubt he plays an average 1st base, especially considering height. Hope he resigns and fills that left field spot for the foreseeable future. I saw some highlights of him playing LF made some nice catches and has a cannon arm. He's not fast but you are right he is short and putting him at 1B is a bit risky. Then again Dalbec is 6’4 and can’t catch the ball in his mit so maybe advantage Schwarber.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2021 18:56:16 GMT -5
Left field in Fenway is a nice spot for Schwarber. Doubt he plays an average 1st base, especially considering height. Hope he resigns and fills that left field spot for the foreseeable future. I saw some highlights of him playing LF made some nice catches and has a cannon arm. He's not fast but you are right he is short and putting him at 1B is a bit risky. Then again Dalbec is 6’4 and can’t catch the ball in his mit so maybe advantage Schwarber. I think for Schwarber, keeping him from moving a ton would help him stay healthy.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 30, 2021 21:28:57 GMT -5
Do we have any idea about when he may be available???
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Post by Canseco on Jul 30, 2021 21:31:07 GMT -5
Might this move be tied to JDM's future with the team? Does he have any opt-outs remaining?
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 30, 2021 21:35:22 GMT -5
Might this move be tied to JDM's future with the team? Does he have any opt-outs remaining? JD can opt Out after this season. I think $19M is his salary to stay
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 30, 2021 21:37:53 GMT -5
Might this move be tied to JDM's future with the team? Does he have any opt-outs remaining? JD can opt Out after this season. I think $19M is his salary to stay Be very interesting. I’d say 45/55 he opts out (60/40 a month ago). And if he does do we slap a tag on him??
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Post by cdj on Jul 30, 2021 23:35:59 GMT -5
Do we have any idea about when he may be available??? ~2 weeks
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Post by philarhody on Jul 30, 2021 23:48:22 GMT -5
I saw some highlights of him playing LF made some nice catches and has a cannon arm. He's not fast but you are right he is short and putting him at 1B is a bit risky. Then again Dalbec is 6’4 and can’t catch the ball in his mit so maybe advantage Schwarber. I think for Schwarber, keeping him from moving a ton would help him stay healthy. If he has to play outfield, I can’t think of a smaller area to run around in than left field in Fenway.
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Post by vokuhila on Jul 31, 2021 3:15:53 GMT -5
I wonder what happens once JD leaves (be it opt-out or end of contract). Will the RS get another "full DH" under CB? DH seems like such a key piece to roster flexibilty. You can rotate "off-days" or DH dinged up players...
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 31, 2021 6:57:46 GMT -5
When is he going to play? That has something to do with it. I think the injury delay had something to do with the price paid. Re: 1B, I just wish I could think of a catcher who ever moved to 1B, besides every catcher in the history of the game who could really hit and couldn't really catch. Schwarber was actually athletic enough to move to LF (not something most catchers could do) because the Cubs already had a young star at 1B. People make it sound like that's a bad thing. And he's stayed in LF for years. I wish I c8uld think of a LF who had to m8ve to 1B because he c8uldn't play LF anym8re. Pr8bably never happened bef8re either. Exactly, lets not over think this too much folks.
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Post by cdj on Jul 31, 2021 7:05:06 GMT -5
Franchy plays a "servicable" 1B and he had 10-14 days to learn. Schwarber doesn't need to win a gold glove. That’s exactly it- do people not see the caliber of defense we get from Dalbec? I legitimately think there are plays he does not make that I would make and that’s sad. Especially from somebody who graded out as a pretty decent 3B 3 years ago Like he can’t catch a ball. He’s botching plays that should have a 100% success rate in the bigs. He’s also been saved on some errors too, Kikè saved him from making a huge one a few weeks back. He’s got a -8 defensive runs saved. That’s so hard to do at 1B If Schwarber can walk and chew gum at the same time he’ll be better
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Post by carita on Jul 31, 2021 7:22:24 GMT -5
My friend is a big Cubs fan and he thinks Schwarber will be fine at 1B. The Cubs originally wanted Schwarber at 1B but had Rizzo there longstanding which is why he moved to LF. So I imagine Schwarber did get some previous reps at 1B with Chicago at some point in his career and isn't totally foreign to the position, which perhaps Bloom knew.
As mentioned above, catchers have the footwork to be adequate and above first basemen. Bloom probably is happy to give Dalbec/Franchy/Duran another few weeks of sink or swim play to judge what to do with them this season, then hope Schwarber stays healthy during the stretch run and offer flexibility at LF, 1B AND DH.
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Post by TheCerebral1 on Jul 31, 2021 9:33:23 GMT -5
Renfroe has played 1B, though you lose his arm in right. There's definitely flexibility, and anything is an upgrade over Dalbac at this point.
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Post by fanofredsox on Jul 31, 2021 10:56:07 GMT -5
Do we have any idea about when he may be available??? They’ve said 10 days but I think it’s realistic that Schwarber might not play until September. He’s been down for some time now with that hamstring. It could be 2 weeks before he even goes out for a re hab. He could re hab for 2 weeks & play some 1B. Then he’s up come end of August/ 1st of September. Or maybe he doesn’t need a re hab at all but you would think so after being out since July 2nd & you’d think he’d need some game time to learn 1B.
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2021 11:30:15 GMT -5
Most saw him as a 1B when he was drafted. Not sure where the “can he learn 1B?” concerns arose. He used to catch and he plays the outfield. He can learn to play 1B. And let’s be real. He isn’t going to be an OF for much longer regardless as he gets older. The LF/1B flexibility should allow us to be a little creative with L/R splits down the stretch too.
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Post by fanofredsox on Jul 31, 2021 11:33:37 GMT -5
He was a catcher for a long time and most saw him as a 1B when he was drafted. Not sure where the “can he learn 1B?” concerns arose. He used to catch and he plays the outfield. He can learn to play 1B. Well then so can & should JD
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2021 11:51:09 GMT -5
He was a catcher for a long time and most saw him as a 1B when he was drafted. Not sure where the “can he learn 1B?” concerns arose. He used to catch and he plays the outfield. He can learn to play 1B. Well then so can & should JD JD is too good of a hitter to risk injury and he’s older. He was able to play RF at Schwarber’s age and did so regularly.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 31, 2021 12:11:51 GMT -5
JD can opt Out after this season. I think $19M is his salary to stay Be very interesting. I’d say 45/55 he opts out (60/40 a month ago). And if he does do we slap a tag on him?? I'm pretty sure JD is about to play his last three months as a Red Sox. With younger stars to extend and a guy like Schwarber available (although his option is mutual, so he'll probably also opt out), I don't think the Sox will be the top bidder on JD.
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Post by cdj on Jul 31, 2021 12:31:40 GMT -5
Watching his mid season highlights and something unusual I’ve seen is that he’s tattooed a bunch of pitches up and out of the zone Not exactly the pitch you would expect to see somebody with his profile get to
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 31, 2021 12:33:37 GMT -5
Be very interesting. I’d say 45/55 he opts out (60/40 a month ago). And if he does do we slap a tag on him?? I'm pretty sure JD is about to play his last three months as a Red Sox. With younger stars to extend and a guy like Schwarber available (although his option is mutual, so he'll probably also opt out), I don't think the Sox will be the top bidder on JD. I don't think he's opting out
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 31, 2021 12:57:35 GMT -5
JD's decision ranges from easy opt in to easy opt out, depending on how the next 3 months ago.
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Post by soxjim on Jul 31, 2021 13:22:02 GMT -5
Like the trade a lot - ofc as long as he plays. Schwarber makes the team better. That's more important than anything else. Verdugo has an OPS of .486 vs lefties. That's atrocious. Duran is batting .158 so far. That's atrocious. There is no way their defense comes close to equaling Schwarber’s offense. And as far as Renfroe- as others have stated he was hardly thought of being that good of an everyday player. Right now he showing signs of cracking. What's Bloome supposed to do - let it happen without doing anything? His July OPS is .645. To further that he has an OPS of .693 vs Finesse pitchers. While Schwarber absolutely crushes finesse pitching.
None of the defense that these players bring surpasses the offense that Schwarber brings.
And doesn't this move mean that we're not playing a .190 hitter in Chavis? Putting Hernandez at 2B - overall the team is much better off by removing Chavis and adding Schwarber, isn't it?
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 31, 2021 13:33:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure JD is about to play his last three months as a Red Sox. With younger stars to extend and a guy like Schwarber available (although his option is mutual, so he'll probably also opt out), I don't think the Sox will be the top bidder on JD. I don't think he's opting out I will not eat my laptop if he doesn't (and still haven't done so, as Nate Lowe is still a Ranger) but he's too good not to get 3-4 years at $20+ AAV. I get that there's a limited market without the universal DH but I still recall that his current contract was under-market at the time it was signed, so all he needs is one team who values his bat and his ability to mentor teammates to make it happen. He's also not horrible in LF, with a decent, accurate arm, so a Senior Circuit team could take a risk on the universal DH coming and live with him in LF for the first year. I bet he'd enjoy playing in Miami. Surely he and Boras see the writing on the wall, in terms of the low probability of the Sox re-signing Julio in 2023. Why wait until he's one year older? The main reason he wouldn't opt out is that he wants to wait one more year to see if the universal DH will be put in the new CBA. The easy solution to that (and something I'm sure Boras has already planned) is to backload a deal with an opt-out after the first year. I would put the odds of him opting out at -200. Obviously, it depends on how he performs in the next three months but he's been consistently around .900 OPS for the last four.
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Post by patford on Jul 31, 2021 13:59:57 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure JD is about to play his last three months as a Red Sox. With younger stars to extend and a guy like Schwarber available (although his option is mutual, so he'll probably also opt out), I don't think the Sox will be the top bidder on JD. I don't think he's opting out He started out really hot and it was exciting but he's returned to Earth. No one is paying him more than 19M next year. Not unless he puts together one hell of an end to this season.
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