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Post by manfred on Aug 5, 2021 13:31:28 GMT -5
I’m not bashing Bobby. I like him, and I think it has been admirable how he’s gutted through a rough season. But is there an obvious precedent for a team in a tight race to ride a rookie who is the worst producer at his position in baseball?
And don’t get me wrong: I am NOT arguing about the trade deadline. I’m saying, like, Marwin, bad as he’s been, might be better.
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Aug 5, 2021 13:34:24 GMT -5
Glad we didn't trade for Anthony Rizzo so we can see Bobby Dalbec flail wildly at pitches over and over again. They traded for a guy hitting .253/.340/.570 who will be back in a couple weeks instead of a guy hitting .248/.346/.446 and gave up way less in the process. Said latter guy has been on an absolute tear in six games after the trade, yes, but c'mon now. Also reports are that Schwarber looks good at 1B and won't need a long rehab assignment when he goes out. Could've really used another bat against Tampa. Could really use another bat right now. Instead, we are HOPING the guy we traded for can come back in a week or 2 and we are HOPING he can learn on the fly to play an adequate first base. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have the healthy player who already plays the position very well and can contribute immediately in the middle of a tight division race. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 5, 2021 13:35:45 GMT -5
They traded for a guy hitting .253/.340/.570 who will be back in a couple weeks instead of a guy hitting .248/.346/.446 and gave up way less in the process. Said latter guy has been on an absolute tear in six games after the trade, yes, but c'mon now. Also reports are that Schwarber looks good at 1B and won't need a long rehab assignment when he goes out. Could've really used another bat against Tampa. Could really use another bat right now. Instead, we are HOPING the guy we traded for can come back in a week or 2 and we are HOPING he can learn on the fly to play an adequate first base. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have the healthy player who already plays the position very well and can contribute immediately in the middle of a tight division race. Or you can wait ~2 weeks like an adult and give up significantly less for a better hitter I mean you can sit there and think he’s going to be out for the season if you’d like but by all accounts he’s coming back soon. And you can act like 1B is this incredibly difficult position if you must, but we watched Franchy become competent in like 5 seconds flat |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 5, 2021 13:36:38 GMT -5
They traded for a guy hitting .253/.340/.570 who will be back in a couple weeks instead of a guy hitting .248/.346/.446 and gave up way less in the process. Said latter guy has been on an absolute tear in six games after the trade, yes, but c'mon now. Also reports are that Schwarber looks good at 1B and won't need a long rehab assignment when he goes out. Could've really used another bat against Tampa. Could really use another bat right now. Instead, we are HOPING the guy we traded for can come back in a week or 2 and we are HOPING he can learn on the fly to play an adequate first base. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have the healthy player who already plays the position very well and can contribute immediately in the middle of a tight division race. Wanting a worse player at a higher cost is not logical, even if he's currently healthy. First base is not that freaking difficult to pick up.
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 5, 2021 13:38:46 GMT -5
Can't we just stretch Valdez into a starter? ...don't know if I'm joking or not...
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 5, 2021 13:40:17 GMT -5
Leadoff hit followed by the third time through the order. Not gonna get a better chance than this inning today
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Post by cdj on Aug 5, 2021 13:41:00 GMT -5
Good hustle Marwin
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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 5, 2021 13:42:28 GMT -5
Could've really used another bat against Tampa. Could really use another bat right now. Instead, we are HOPING the guy we traded for can come back in a week or 2 and we are HOPING he can learn on the fly to play an adequate first base. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have the healthy player who already plays the position very well and can contribute immediately in the middle of a tight division race. Wanting a worse player at a higher cost is not logical, even if he's currently healthy. First base is not that freaking difficult to pick up.
Then why doesn’t JD learn 1B? You’d think he’d want to improve his worth to teams as a possible free agent & more importantly help the team he is on wouldn’t you? |
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Post by incandenza on Aug 5, 2021 13:43:12 GMT -5
[Jerry Seinfeld voice]: If Philips Valdez is indestructible, why not just make the starting pitching out of Philips Valdez?
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Post by station13 on Aug 5, 2021 13:43:24 GMT -5
that was risky Mawrin
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Post by incandenza on Aug 5, 2021 13:44:00 GMT -5
I’m not bashing Bobby. I like him, and I think it has been admirable how he’s gutted through a rough season. But is there an obvious precedent for a team in a tight race to ride a rookie who is the worst producer at his position in baseball? And don’t get me wrong: I am NOT arguing about the trade deadline. I’m saying, like, Marwin, bad as he’s been, might be better. Well he's already been demoted to the weak side of a platoon, and they took another guy out of position to do it. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 5, 2021 13:45:54 GMT -5
Can't we just stretch Valdez into a starter? ...don't know if I'm joking or not... Or at least use him as an opener. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 5, 2021 13:48:31 GMT -5
Such little help from the meat of the order
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 5, 2021 13:48:54 GMT -5
If they don't hit HRs they really can't score runs at this point. It's been like that for a week.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 5, 2021 13:50:22 GMT -5
Brutal.
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Post by voiceofreason on Aug 5, 2021 13:51:02 GMT -5
Can't we just stretch Valdez into a starter? ...don't know if I'm joking or not... They could certainly piggyback him with Whitlock or Houck. |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Aug 5, 2021 13:51:31 GMT -5
Can't we just stretch Valdez into a starter? ...don't know if I'm joking or not... Or at least use him as an opener. I'd definitely be up for Valdez as an opener followed by Rios. It's better than either Perez or Richards. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 5, 2021 13:55:18 GMT -5
I’d honestly rather see Yack Daddy start as an opener than Perez at this point. At least he’s an interesting arm that throws gas.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 5, 2021 13:56:04 GMT -5
Every time this lineup faces a middling lefty it feels like they ought to pound them, and then it never seems to happen.
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Post by cdj on Aug 5, 2021 14:07:53 GMT -5
There’s the Hansel I was expecting
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 5, 2021 14:08:52 GMT -5
Robles is no help. There's the ballgame. They'll lose 2 of 3 and 7 of 9. Not good.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 5, 2021 14:09:36 GMT -5
Bad pitchers pitching badly and an offense that cannot capitalize on any of their opportunities.
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Post by manfred on Aug 5, 2021 14:09:57 GMT -5
I have to say: Detroit is much less terrible than I remember. Early in the season, they were disgraceful. But this team is no pushover at all.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 5, 2021 14:10:54 GMT -5
Don't forget to factor in the low acquisition cost
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 5, 2021 14:11:28 GMT -5
Phillips Valdez: "Why did I even bother?"
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