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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 17, 2021 14:43:26 GMT -5
Cora should just watch the game & not the stat sheet, he’ll make better decisions
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 17, 2021 14:44:08 GMT -5
Ian was apparently fed up with our grumbling this may be true and appreciate the numbers, but aren't these gonna be skewed by the fact that he hasn't faced 3x through the order much. What kind of sample size are we talking about ? Add: when you see .625 are we talking 5 for 8 or something ?
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Post by aznpopsical on Aug 17, 2021 14:45:57 GMT -5
this guy reminds me of andrew miller somehow
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2021 14:46:12 GMT -5
Ian was apparently fed up with our grumbling this may be true and appreciate the numbers, but aren't these gonna be skewed by the fact that he hasn't faced 3x through the order much. What kind of sample size are we talking about ? In his career, he has a 5.10 xFIP for 3rd time through order.
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 17, 2021 14:47:35 GMT -5
It's not just the numbers...it has, for a long time now,been the default answer by the SP brass on why they don't rank Houck higher.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 17, 2021 14:48:04 GMT -5
this may be true and appreciate the numbers, but aren't these gonna be skewed by the fact that he hasn't faced 3x through the order much. What kind of sample size are we talking about ? In his career, he has a 5.10 xFIP for 3rd time through order. that is non-responsive and a totally different stat . i am wondering whether posting that stat is indicative of a large enough sample size to be noteworthy.
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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 17, 2021 14:48:57 GMT -5
Looks like the plan is/was for Eovaldi to go 7 in game 2
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 17, 2021 14:49:40 GMT -5
Cora should just watch the game & not the stat sheet, he’ll make better decisions Houck didn't even look good today. His best pitch was a non-factor.
He had a two inning scoreless streak going! Who cares
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Post by fenwaymabe on Aug 17, 2021 14:50:06 GMT -5
That's why it's critical Houck develops his split change into a legit offering to keep lefties off balance. He threw a couple today that we taken for strikes, but were hangers. With the development of that 3rd legit offering, I think he gets a chance to go through that order a third time.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 17, 2021 14:50:32 GMT -5
So, our two most recent pen additions (that I tend to pick on often) are the two pitches with no runs given up (and though each made it "interesting", they escaped). Weird game.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 17, 2021 14:50:38 GMT -5
I am open to the possibility of Davis taking Taylor's place.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 17, 2021 14:51:18 GMT -5
Brutal 2 innings. 3 outs left....let's get this !!
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2021 14:51:31 GMT -5
In his career, he has a 5.10 xFIP for 3rd time through order. that is non-responsive and a totally different stat . i am wondering whether posting that stat is indicative of a large enough sample size to be noteworthy. It is indeed a small sample, but this has always been a knock on him for his entire time as a Red Sox pitching prospect. They tried it in the last game and he failed miserably. As I said, if Whitlock did what Whitlock usually does, no one would be talking about it now. Besides that, it's not nonresponsive. It's a better stat that indicates he doesn't do well.
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Post by cdj on Aug 17, 2021 14:51:35 GMT -5
I don’t dislike Davis like I do Robles
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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 17, 2021 14:52:12 GMT -5
Hopefully it’s a rainout tomorrow. This team needs some time to get its shit together before facing contenders
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Post by aznpopsical on Aug 17, 2021 14:53:02 GMT -5
time for schwarber to go boom here
a single and keep the line moving will do
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2021 14:53:29 GMT -5
Cora should just watch the game & not the stat sheet, he’ll make better decisions Work on that time machine so that he can be as wise.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 17, 2021 14:53:50 GMT -5
Maybe going to Taylor who only found out he was eligible to pitch right before the game following Whitlock wasn’t the best call to make? When things go wrong, for some, it was always the wrong decision. It's quite easy to predict who is going to complain using hindsight. If Whitlock throws 2 scoreless innings, no one complaining about pulling Houck would have said a word. So, by that token Cora should never get credited either.
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Post by soxinsf on Aug 17, 2021 14:53:58 GMT -5
It's not just the numbers...it has, for a long time now,been the default answer by the SP brass on why they don't rank Houck higher. When a guy is pitching well and is not tired, you let him start the next inning. Statistics are not anything more than hints. In this case, the stats that should have counted for more was the Houck performance today. Otherwise, the guy does not belong in the rotation.
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Post by fenwaymabe on Aug 17, 2021 14:54:35 GMT -5
Gotta love that shift on Schwarber right there!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 17, 2021 14:54:40 GMT -5
time for schwarber to go boom here will you settle for a "plink"? He got on!
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 17, 2021 14:55:12 GMT -5
Hopefully it’s a rainout tomorrow. This team needs some time to get its shit together before facing contenders Like Yesterday
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 17, 2021 14:55:36 GMT -5
Cora should just watch the game & not the stat sheet, he’ll make better decisions Houck didn't even look good today. His best pitch was a non-factor.
He had a two inning scoreless streak going! Who cares
His slider wasn't exceptional today, agreed...that's why he leaned on his split a bit more...which was pretty good (and will be important for him going forward) They are going to lean on Houck more down the stretch and I think he had 5 in him today...but agreed...easy to say in hindsight...
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2021 14:55:36 GMT -5
When things go wrong, for some, it was always the wrong decision. It's quite easy to predict who is going to complain using hindsight. If Whitlock throws 2 scoreless innings, no one complaining about pulling Houck would have said a word. So, by that token Cora should never get credited either. I give him credit for making the right decisions when they do not work out and criticism for making the wrong decisions that do work out. Do you?
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Aug 17, 2021 14:55:40 GMT -5
Not to overmanage or anything but why not Duran pinch running?
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