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Post by greenmonster on Aug 21, 2021 21:04:19 GMT -5
Catcher on his knee with a runner on third....can't react to the pitch. Perez gonna be charged with a wild-pitch but that was 100% catchable
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:08:02 GMT -5
Can we get Arauz up in the pen?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:10:05 GMT -5
Catcher on his knee with a runner on third....can't react to the pitch. Perez gonna be charged with a wild-pitch but that was 100% catchable agreed, but it's like talking about a minor scratch on your hand when two of your limbs have been amputated. Tonight the team has reeked on defense, baserunning, starting pitching, now relief pitching and offense. And against a poor team, a mediocre pitcher at best, and knowing what all of the other teams we need to catch won. Inexcusable. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:11:46 GMT -5
Wow, I am listening to the radio guys - as well as DOB and Eck - they are all reaming out the team.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 21, 2021 21:11:46 GMT -5
Catcher on his knee with a runner on third....can't react to the pitch. Perez gonna be charged with a wild-pitch but that was 100% catchable agreed, but it's like talking about a minor scratch on your hand when two of your limbs have been amputated. Tonight the team has reeked on defense, baserunning, starting pitching, now relief pitching and offense. And against a poor team, a mediocre pitcher at best, and knowing what all of the other teams we need to catch won. Inexcusable. Don't disagree with any of that....just a pet peeve of mine |
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 21, 2021 21:12:46 GMT -5
They now have as many errors as they have hits and that wild-pitch doesn't even count as an error
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2021 21:14:01 GMT -5
If I am wrong, I will GLADLY eat crow ... but the Sox are done this year. Becoming obvious to me. I think they can win it all 100% next year. Unfortunately, they could have many of the same issues. Can Barnes close? Can Renfroe repeat this year? Can Dalbec play? Starters? CVaz? I think they *could* contend… but I think they will still be preseason 3 or 4 in the East. All barring huge offseason changes. |
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 21, 2021 21:14:08 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2021 21:15:34 GMT -5
If nothing else, we get a reminder why Richards and Perez should not be back.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 21, 2021 21:17:33 GMT -5
If nothing else, we get a reminder why Richards and Perez should not be back. True but Kinda tough to blame Perez for that inning |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 21, 2021 21:20:37 GMT -5
Renfroe with his 8th error of the season. That's a lot for an OF -- indeed, a lot of plays that should be OF errors aren't scored as such (think of that ball that Arozarena just completely miss-read, which became a gift triple for Dalbec).
Great arm, athletic, but not a great defensive OF.
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2021 21:24:07 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. I’m not a Cora guy, but that is premature. This is not that good a team. They’ll still end the year with a better record than anyone expected. I disagree with Cora at the edges, but I never think “wow he is terrible.” And there have certainly been Sox managers of whom I have said that, with expletives deleted. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:25:13 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. I'm not where you are, but the way the team is now playing is similar to what happened in 2019 - the big hangover season, when they went into it unprepared and that team also made mental errors and disappeared against middling pitchers. I still support Cora in general but think he has a pretty faulty team to manage. Lots of holes. |
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Post by kjkramer on Aug 21, 2021 21:25:20 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. I am maybe 40% on board with you. Depends on how they finish. I would be inclined to give him another year |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 21, 2021 21:26:37 GMT -5
I guess the Sox are still moping because they "only" got Schwarber plus two bullpen arms at the deadline? Plus Sale back from injury?
Imagine if they traded 2 or 3 of their top 5 prospects for Scherzer -- would that have prevented most of the team from sleep-walking through the second half of the season, as they've done?
The answer IMHO is that they would've simply wasted all those prospects.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:26:41 GMT -5
But - hey - is any game that we get to see Robles, Richards, Perez AND Davis pitch all that bad???  And double hey - Danny Santana played a rehab game with the WooSox - help is on the way!  |
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Post by homerdante on Aug 21, 2021 21:29:07 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. I'm with you. He LOST this team. Totally and completely lost them this year. This was something Terry mentioned once. When you're friends with the team, at some point there is a danger of becoming too close so that the team stops listening to you. I don't think his style is a fit for the long term. He ended up losing the '19 team too--not to the extent of this '21 team, but it was clear he lost their ear. I also don't understand why we would do anything now but let at bats go to players who are going to be with the team moving forward. Let Duran start every day, or 5/6 or whatever. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 21, 2021 21:29:13 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. I’m not a Cora guy, but that is premature. This is not that good a team. They’ll still end the year with a better record than anyone expected. I disagree with Cora at the edges, but I never think “wow he is terrible.” And there have certainly been Sox managers of whom I have said that, with expletives deleted. Cora had them playing over their heads for three months. I thought he was a magician. A lot of people thought here that if you kept pointing out issues with the team that you're negative and if you worried about them undermining the team's success you'd get kind of called out. I get on the one hand you have to enjoy what's in front of your face. I know despite my worries, I enjoyed the hell out of the season for the first 103 games. I figured the team might struggle here and there but I didn't expect them to completely fall apart and that's what has happened and Cora can't stop it. I don't think anybody can, to be honest. I think it's more on the front office who built a "competitive" caliber team, but not a "championship" caliber team. Coming from last place competitive was probably the goal anyways as the plan was to stay under the luxury tax limit. And highly competitive is a huge step up from horrific, which was the 2020 season. |
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Post by patford on Aug 21, 2021 21:29:43 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. No way Cora can be blamed except that he got the team into this mess by getting something magical out of a lousy team for half a year. Unfortunately he ran out of rabbits and the hat is empty. I just think people don't get it. This is a bad team. It always was. They had no business being over .500 let alone in first place. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:34:19 GMT -5
This pitcher - from high A to the dance - and throwing 101. Wow. Have a moment, rookie Nick Snyder! Then he Ks JD on an 87 mph yakker.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 21, 2021 21:37:38 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. That's also a bit extreme for me. The first three months he couldn't have been doing a better job, so did he get a lobotomy in July?
They won 10 of 11 in late June/early July; they won 6 of 7 in late July. I don't think a bad three weeks since then costs him his job.
How many here thought they would still be in the race in August, let alone in the race at all, with the roster they started the season with? I doubt even the FO would say they did if they drank some truth serum. (Full disclosure, I did but I'm a glass-over-flowing optimist.) The roster is starting to show its warts.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 21:38:00 GMT -5
Verdugo hits his 3,556th soft grounder to second base to end the game. Merciful this mess is over. Good...NIGHT.
What will Cora have to say one wonders?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 21:39:19 GMT -5
Lol 5 errors?
I've never seen a team be so good and then be so awful.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 21:40:14 GMT -5
At the risk of being unpopular, let me be the first (maybe?) to call for Cora's job. Team has played poorly for nearly a month. I don't like the way he manages the game and if the player's manager of all player's managers can't get his team to show up then I don’t know what he’s doing managing a team. No way Cora can be blamed except that he got the team into this mess by getting something magical out of a lousy team for half a year. Unfortunately he ran out of rabbits and the hat is empty. I just think people don't get it. This is a bad team. It always was. They had no business being over .500 let alone in first place. But they aren't this bad. This team had the distance to coast and instead, sank. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 21, 2021 21:40:18 GMT -5
Aaron Nola working on a perfecto in SD.
EDIT: Less than a minute after I typed that, Brad Miller made an error for the first base runner.
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