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Post by tyler3 on May 2, 2022 23:54:50 GMT -5
Another guy in our range is Hjarpe. Just bizarre delivery from the left side but controls the ball well and strikes out an absolute ton of batters. The fast ball is… we’ll here’s what prospectslive said about him in their most recent board update”
25. Cooper Hjerpe
Left-Handed Pitcher, Oregon State
You can't talk about Hjerpe without first discussing just how unique he is. It's a sub-5-foot release height that he somehow manages to stay and ride the fastball. It's legitimately a Josh Hader delivery. Hjerpe is polished with a low-90s heater, touching 95. He employs a hellacious sweeping slider and a solid-to-above average changeup. He limits walks and gets a ton of swing-and-miss on all three pitches. He's been a mainstay in the OSU rotation since arriving to campus and represents one of the more consistent forces in the class. There's loads of deception here and it's an incredibly unique profile -- some might go as far as to call it unicorn stuff. Model teams will love what he brings to the table. Definitive first round upside here.”
I’m think if he just added a tick of velocity and sat like 93 to 95 he’d be a monster. Guy Ks 14.5 per 9 as a starter…walks 1.7 per 9. Crafty reliable lefty ain’t always the sexiest…but given the Red Sox history of developing home grown starters…I’d take it at 24.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 3, 2022 21:42:17 GMT -5
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Post by chr31ter on May 4, 2022 6:28:37 GMT -5
What an awful year for college pitching injuries.
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Post by cdj on May 4, 2022 7:03:52 GMT -5
Being a pitcher mocked in the first is apparently a death curse this year
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 4, 2022 19:59:15 GMT -5
What a Lazer.
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Post by costpet on May 5, 2022 8:50:00 GMT -5
The only thing I hate is that ping sound. Too easy to hit a long ball. You can hit a home run off the handle. So, I don’t think it’s a good measure of how he will hit with a wooden bat. The Cape Cod league is a good test because they only use a wooden bat and the pitching is much better. If he’s good there, then you have something.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 5, 2022 8:57:11 GMT -5
Cape Cod League is only for college players. All of the top high school players play in wood bat summer leagues and have been scouted extensively with wood bats.
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Post by costpet on May 5, 2022 9:33:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the info
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 5, 2022 9:33:49 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 5, 2022 11:49:29 GMT -5
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Post by jaffinator on May 5, 2022 11:52:31 GMT -5
I really like Prielipp, but unless something changes it hasn't really sounded like he's been in contention for being the first college pitcher picked. Though you never know who teams like and maybe he takes a haircut and becomes part of someone's draft day strategy. |
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Post by jaffinator on May 5, 2022 12:06:22 GMT -5
Well maybe I spoke early on Prielipp as Law has him as his top college arm. I also know its popular to hate on Law here (and I can't necessarily explain why he's so low on your favorite college arm or whatever) but for the life of me I couldn't understand why most rating services have had Cam Collier so low (except for law who has him top 5). Re-classified youngster hitting really well against top junior college pitching at 17. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 5, 2022 14:19:11 GMT -5
I think other pubs probably knock him (Collier) a bit because he hasn’t put on a massive power show (7 HR on the season). Obviously what he is doing at 17 is impressive but that might be a reason for other pubs having him lower. Even if you like him #2 is too high for his profile for me.
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Post by tyler3 on May 6, 2022 14:34:42 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 7, 2022 8:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by bcsox on May 7, 2022 22:59:44 GMT -5
As a side note, Law had Fabian near the top of the 2nd after being very down on him last year.
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Post by badfishnbc on May 11, 2022 11:17:47 GMT -5
As a side note, Law had Fabian near the top of the 2nd after being very down on him last year. And Rob Bradford at WEEI writes that the Red Sox "could target" him again (while naturally ignoring the teensy detail that he'd need to give the team permission to draft him again). Nevermind that Fabian hits his homers in batches and hasn't cut down on the K's. |
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Post by incandenza on May 11, 2022 11:56:46 GMT -5
As a side note, Law had Fabian near the top of the 2nd after being very down on him last year. And Rob Bradford at WEEI writes that the Red Sox "could target" him again (while naturally ignoring the teensy detail that he'd need to give the team permission to draft him again). Nevermind that Fabian hits his homers in batches and hasn't cut down on the K's. He has cut down on the Ks at least - 79 in 269 PAs last year (29%) vs. 47 in 228 this year (21%). The walks are up too; he actually has more walks (50) than Ks, after having a 2:1 K:BB ratio last year. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 11, 2022 12:17:51 GMT -5
And Rob Bradford at WEEI writes that the Red Sox "could target" him again (while naturally ignoring the teensy detail that he'd need to give the team permission to draft him again). Nevermind that Fabian hits his homers in batches and hasn't cut down on the K's. He has cut down on the Ks at least - 79 in 269 PAs last year (29%) vs. 47 in 228 this year (21%). The walks are up too; he actually has more walks (50) than Ks, after having a 2:1 K:BB ratio last year. Yep. Fair to question whether or not the move will be worth it for him as it seems like he's at best going to improve his draft slot by 10-15 places, but he's very obviously made improvements this year, and good for him for doing so. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 11, 2022 21:07:25 GMT -5
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Post by kman22 on May 12, 2022 0:07:47 GMT -5
He has cut down on the Ks at least - 79 in 269 PAs last year (29%) vs. 47 in 228 this year (21%). The walks are up too; he actually has more walks (50) than Ks, after having a 2:1 K:BB ratio last year. Yep. Fair to question whether or not the move will be worth it for him as it seems like he's at best going to improve his draft slot by 10-15 places, but he's very obviously made improvements this year, and good for him for doing so. Wonder if the improvements make up for the fact that he's a year older playing against college competition or if he still goes in the same range |
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Post by 1toolplayer on May 12, 2022 7:48:02 GMT -5
Yep. Fair to question whether or not the move will be worth it for him as it seems like he's at best going to improve his draft slot by 10-15 places, but he's very obviously made improvements this year, and good for him for doing so. Wonder if the improvements make up for the fact that he's a year older playing against college competition or if he still goes in the same range Could be, he's a "young" college player in that regard. I made a comment last year about how they've skewed towards the age model recently with some high picks. Its small sample size, so it could be coincide, but they do seem attracted to those players young for their levels. a handful of guys that match their range in round 1, and that age model are Tenn P Blade Tidwell, Gonzaga P Gabriel Hughes, Cal OF Dylan Beavers, and Arkansas 3B Cayden Wallace. |
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Post by Guidas on May 12, 2022 13:37:38 GMT -5
As a side note, Law had Fabian near the top of the 2nd after being very down on him last year. Law said in his recent chat that this bump up was more about Fabian being 22 than any adjustments he's made in his approach. Also said it was the worst collection of talent he's seen in 21 years of covering the draft. Too bad we can trade out of the first round this year like they do in football. |
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Post by jdb on May 12, 2022 18:28:20 GMT -5
I thought most reports had the draft class as being at least average? If not just draft Ben Joyce and put him in the pen.
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Post by jaffinator on May 12, 2022 19:22:42 GMT -5
As a side note, Law had Fabian near the top of the 2nd after being very down on him last year. Law said in his recent chat that this bump up was more about Fabian being 22 than any adjustments he's made in his approach. Also said it was the worst collection of talent he's seen in 21 years of covering the draft. Too bad we can trade out of the first round this year like they do in football. I realize this is a poor way to judge a draft, but Henry Davis went 1.1 last season and I like Kevin Parada more than him and Parada hasn't really gotten much top pick talk. I realize Davis was a deal relative to someone like Mayer but still. Davis has the better command of the zone, but it's not like Parada's some slouch there. I think Parada's a better defender behind the dish now and he's the better athlete in case you want to put him somewhere else. Also a year younger at time of the draft. |
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