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Post by jaffinator on May 12, 2022 19:30:32 GMT -5
I get that he's probably the better pro prospect for a number of reasons but it would kill me a little bit to take Beck here and not his teammate Drew Gilbert, who's not only been better for Tennessee this year, but is a ton of fun to watch.
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Post by soxaddict on May 12, 2022 19:53:24 GMT -5
Would love this pick. Feels like a perfect fit for RF at Fenway. Very athletic for a big guy.
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Post by soxaddict on May 12, 2022 19:59:31 GMT -5
I get that he's probably the better pro prospect for a number of reasons but it would kill me a little bit to take Beck here and not his teammate Drew Gilbert, who's not only been better for Tennessee this year, but is a ton of fun to watch. I'm a Gilbert fan too and wouldn't be disappointed with him either. I prefer Beck because the Sox are missing that RH masher in both corner OF spots and I'm not sure there's one in the system. I miss the Dwight Evans days, and I'm not saying that's Beck but he's got the build and is athletic enough to handle RF at Fenway.
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Post by soxaddict on May 12, 2022 20:05:22 GMT -5
I thought most reports had the draft class as being at least average? If not just draft Ben Joyce and put him in the pen. I can get on board with Joyce and his 105 mph fastball as well.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 12, 2022 20:06:22 GMT -5
I’d take neither. Beck strikes out too much for my liking and Gilbert doesn’t have that over the fence pop I’d be looking for. But it’s a mock so likely the Red Sox will actually take someone we aren’t even thinking of.
Also never draft relievers high that never works.
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Post by jaffinator on May 12, 2022 20:47:13 GMT -5
I’d take neither. Beck strikes out too much for my liking and Gilbert doesn’t have that over the fence pop I’d be looking for. But it’s a mock so likely the Red Sox will actually take someone we aren’t even thinking of. Also never draft relievers high that never works. At 24 you're not getting a college position player without at least one wart. Beck who doesn't strike out as much and Gilbert with more pop are both top 10 prospects E-Z.
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Post by jaffinator on May 12, 2022 20:49:29 GMT -5
Also, pencil me in as someone who thinks Jacob Berry is still being mocked too high. The production and triple slash are phenomenal, but he hasn't proven that he can play ANY outfield position and he doesn't impact baseballs quite as hard as someone like Kevin Parada does.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 12, 2022 22:30:19 GMT -5
It had been reported he might not be back this spring but he did come back and looked pretty good.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 13, 2022 12:03:40 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on May 13, 2022 12:30:18 GMT -5
My backyard! Maybe I'll have to get over and see him. Although I doubt I can offer much scouting info.
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Post by threeifbaerga on May 13, 2022 13:17:42 GMT -5
My backyard! Maybe I'll have to get over and see him. Although I doubt I can offer much scouting info. See you there!
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Post by carl4sox on May 13, 2022 14:50:46 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on May 13, 2022 14:53:43 GMT -5
No Rocker goes back into the draft this year. But you're comment that he is intriguing if his medicals check out OK are correct, I would not hate taking him depending on how the rest of the draft shakes out.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 15, 2022 13:42:43 GMT -5
No Rocker goes back into the draft this year. But you're comment that he is intriguing if his medicals check out OK are correct, I would not hate taking him depending on how the rest of the draft shakes out. I'd take him before Fabian...
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 16, 2022 12:59:24 GMT -5
No Rocker goes back into the draft this year. But you're comment that he is intriguing if his medicals check out OK are correct, I would not hate taking him depending on how the rest of the draft shakes out. I'd take him before Fabian... Well, there's no chance they will be allowed to redraft Fabian, so no need to worry about that, that's for sure.
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Post by jaffinator on May 16, 2022 17:32:02 GMT -5
Ivan Melendez is one of the more interesting Senior age (he's a redshirt junior having come from JuCo) college bats this draft. He hits the ball harder than anyone in the country (lead everywhere in exit velocity last year) and already has 25 homers on the season (that's a homer every seven and a half at bats). With his good athleticism for a senior college slugger, it might actually be conservative to put a 70 on his raw power. After striking out too much last year (26%) he's done much better this season, dropping that number to 17%, while raising his walk rate from 14% to 19%.
Intriguing bat, I'd expect him to go anywhere from late second to fifth round or so. Combination of overage and another year of eligibility adds a wrinkle, but he's been an absolute force at Texas - .422/.540/.935 slash line, more walks than Ks (this season), and 25 tanks, does jump off the page.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 16, 2022 17:38:07 GMT -5
I'd take him before Fabian... Well, there's no chance they will be allowed to redraft Fabian, so no need to worry about that, that's for sure. Huh? Allowed by whom?
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Post by ematz1423 on May 16, 2022 17:45:47 GMT -5
Well, there's no chance they will be allowed to redraft Fabian, so no need to worry about that, that's for sure. Huh? Allowed by whom? If a team drafts a player the year before and doesn't sign them the player has the ability to tell that team not to draft him again and they cannot.
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Post by jaffinator on May 17, 2022 7:33:31 GMT -5
Jud Fabian's been scuffling of late. In his last four SEC series he has just 3 hits against 20 Ks. 0 homers in that span, but he had a 3 homer game in a midweek matchup against South Florida. Does have 15 walks during that period though.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 17, 2022 9:26:31 GMT -5
If a team drafts a player the year before and doesn't sign them the player has the ability to tell that team not to draft him again and they cannot. And if there was any doubt, his father had stated unequivocally on Twitter such permission will not be given.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 17, 2022 13:34:01 GMT -5
If you are interested in general draft talk this vid is pretty good:
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Post by jimed14 on May 17, 2022 14:00:26 GMT -5
If a team drafts a player the year before and doesn't sign them the player has the ability to tell that team not to draft him again and they cannot. And if there was any doubt, his father had stated unequivocally on Twitter such permission will not be given. Definitely should try to trade for him as soon as possible. What a weird situation.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 17, 2022 15:53:21 GMT -5
I hope that kid Connor slips to the Sox and if Kumar is still there at our 2nd pick I would grab him.
I have this vision of Kumar his immediate plans to close and then down the road stretch him out. And I would sell it to him.
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Post by jaffinator on May 17, 2022 16:15:46 GMT -5
I hope that kid Connor slips to the Sox and if Kumar is still there at our 2nd pick I would grab him. I have this vision of Kumar his immediate plans to close and then down the road stretch him out. And I would sell it to him. Assuming you mean Connor Prielipp, big fan of his, been saying since before the college season started this year that he was the "injury" college arm I wanted the most. It's possible he's gone before the Sox are up, but unless he comes back throwing 98 through 5 sim innings or something there should be a fair chance he's available. Unless something crazy happens though, 0 chance Kumar can get in this season and close. The college pitcher who ends up relieving same season is so rare and getting rarer. Though I do see where you're coming from in terms of reliever potential and closer type stuff though.
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Post by kingofthetrill on May 17, 2022 18:54:23 GMT -5
Assuming you mean Connor Prielipp, big fan of his, been saying since before the college season started this year that he was the "injury" college arm I wanted the most. It's possible he's gone before the Sox are up, but unless he comes back throwing 98 through 5 sim innings or something there should be a fair chance he's available. Unless something crazy happens though, 0 chance Kumar can get in this season and close. The college pitcher who ends up relieving same season is so rare and getting rarer. Though I do see where you're coming from in terms of reliever potential and closer type stuff though. We tried that with Craig Hansen IIRC.
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