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Post by James Dunne on May 17, 2022 21:36:43 GMT -5
I hope that kid Connor slips to the Sox and if Kumar is still there at our 2nd pick I would grab him. I have this vision of Kumar his immediate plans to close and then down the road stretch him out. And I would sell it to him. Trying to rush Rocker as a closer would be a bad idea both because rushing anyone is a bad idea but also because he's coming off an injury and 2020 was a COVID year and he needs to build up innings and ease into his long term value. You don't draft a guy like that just to blow him out. Also there are like 250 ranked players in this draft named Connor, just fewer than the 275 who are named Jake/Jacob. Please use last names. |
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Post by tyler3 on May 17, 2022 22:51:56 GMT -5
James is getting sassy, James Dunne that is.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 18, 2022 9:12:50 GMT -5
Jud Fabian's been scuffling of late. In his last four SEC series he has just 3 hits against 20 Ks. 0 homers in that span, but he had a 3 homer game in a midweek matchup against South Florida. Does have 15 walks during that period though. Not to pile on, but in SEC play this year, Fabian has been really bad: 16 for 99 (.162 average) with 36 Ks. Only 6 of his 19 homers are from SEC matchups. One silver lining: he's still walking a ton. 28 walks in SEC games so far. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 18, 2022 9:24:37 GMT -5
Besides Ivan Melendez, another guy with eye popping production is Max Wagner, 3B from Clemson. He's slashed .383/.511/.878 with 24 HRs. The OPS is the third best in D1. He's a draft eligible sophomore according to Kiley McDaniel and doesn't appear in many draft rankings (even Kiley only lists him as a 40 FV). Will be interesting to see if he's a late riser given his monster season.
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Post by 1toolplayer on May 18, 2022 13:42:09 GMT -5
Jud Fabian's been scuffling of late. In his last four SEC series he has just 3 hits against 20 Ks. 0 homers in that span, but he had a 3 homer game in a midweek matchup against South Florida. Does have 15 walks during that period though. Not to pile on, but in SEC play this year, Fabian has been really bad: 16 for 99 (.162 average) with 36 Ks. Only 6 of his 19 homers are from SEC matchups. One silver lining: he's still walking a ton. 28 walks in SEC games so far. This is why going back to school was so risky, without two years of Cape league ABs to potentially fall back on, this stretch can really torpedo him. He would have needed to be essentially top 20 to get that $3m he wanted, and I can't see that happening. Hasn't happened yet, but signs seem to be that his advisor bungled this. |
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Post by jaffinator on May 18, 2022 14:21:57 GMT -5
Besides Ivan Melendez, another guy with eye popping production is Max Wagner, 3B from Clemson. He's slashed .383/.511/.878 with 24 HRs. The OPS is the third best in D1. He's a draft eligible sophomore according to Kiley McDaniel and doesn't appear in many draft rankings (even Kiley only lists him as a 40 FV). Will be interesting to see if he's a late riser given his monster season. Some context on Wagner - his entire senior HS season was cancelled due to COVID but he played his whole freshman year at Clemson anyways and was maybe one of the worst hitters in the ACC last season. This season he's the best, plus he's a year young for the draft class (not yet 21), plus he actually has a chance to stick at third (this is not guaranteed though). I could see him going fairly early in day two tbh. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 18, 2022 19:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by jaffinator on May 18, 2022 19:47:10 GMT -5
I am liking this purely based on the fact that I really really want this to happen. With the picks they have this year they could even make the money work. Don't think it's happening, but Mayo knows more than I do lol |
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 18, 2022 20:25:33 GMT -5
Mayer and Lesko on back to back years make it happen draft gods. |
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Post by TearsIn04 on May 18, 2022 20:28:48 GMT -5
I am liking this purely based on the fact that I really really want this to happen. With the picks they have this year they could even make the money work. Don't think it's happening, but Mayo knows more than I do lol Eh, HS P's are notoriously high risk/high reward and this kid is higher risk than most with his TJ history. I'd rather see them lock in a player with a higher chance of success with their R1 pick, even it means a lower ceiling. My opinion on this should be respected because it is every bit as worthless as the opinions of others who have never seen any of these kids play.  |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 18, 2022 20:41:19 GMT -5
Jud Fabian's been scuffling of late. In his last four SEC series he has just 3 hits against 20 Ks. 0 homers in that span, but he had a 3 homer game in a midweek matchup against South Florida. Does have 15 walks during that period though. Not to pile on, but in SEC play this year, Fabian has been really bad: 16 for 99 (.162 average) with 36 Ks. Only 6 of his 19 homers are from SEC matchups. One silver lining: he's still walking a ton. 28 walks in SEC games so far. Shinier silver lining: the Sox can't draft him. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 18, 2022 21:11:11 GMT -5
And if there was any doubt, his father had stated unequivocally on Twitter such permission will not be given. What a weird situation. Kudos for betting on himself and leaving 7 figures on the table but betting isn't always winning. |
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Post by jaffinator on May 18, 2022 21:22:21 GMT -5
I am liking this purely based on the fact that I really really want this to happen. With the picks they have this year they could even make the money work. Don't think it's happening, but Mayo knows more than I do lol Eh, HS P's are notoriously high risk/high reward and this kid is higher risk than most with his TJ history. I'd rather see them lock in a player with a higher chance of success with their R1 pick, even it means a lower ceiling. My opinion on this should be respected because it is every bit as worthless as the opinions of others who have never seen any of these kids play. They are, but nothing risked nothing gained. The comparison's been made to Lucas Giolito, who was the top HS pitcher and in conversation for pick 1.1 his senior year before he missed the HS season with UCL issues - Washington picked him up at 16, had him get TJs immediately and he rocketed up prospect boards from there. Obviously, none of us here have seen any HS players really (I make that point all the time). But guys who have say he's been on their radar as the best HS pitcher in his class since 4 years ago. I think it'd be worth the risk to try and pick up the type of pitcher that normally isn't available there. Walker Buehler is a college guy, but it was a similar deal where TJ pushed him down boards. I'm sure there are tons and tons of examples the opposite way, but it can be worth the risk if they believe in the pitcher. |
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Post by cdj on May 18, 2022 21:30:10 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 19, 2022 6:39:15 GMT -5
Keith Law’s first mock has the Red Sox taking the above-mentioned Max Wagner, 3B, Clemson.
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Post by badfishnbc on May 19, 2022 8:06:07 GMT -5
The draft-eligible sophomore thing is always fascinating to me. It's a complete blind spot in the rankings year after year. I was giddy when the Sox nabbed Benintendi that way.
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Post by e on May 19, 2022 8:15:36 GMT -5
If Jett Williams falls to the Red Sox's pick, I would not be surprised if they draft him. Pretty much their prototype first round pick over the past few years: up the middle with an advanced hit tool.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2022 8:39:57 GMT -5
Just a friendly, yearly reminder that in mock drafts, not every pick is based on what the mock-er is hearing from sources as to who the team likes. The Red Sox have been able to keep things very tight-lipped in recent years while also being fine with being used as a stalking horse (e.g., Leiter - who knows how much fire there was to that smoke, but I don't think they would, for example, have passed up Mayer if Leiter was also there), so I'd advise reading any mocks as what they are - guesses. Yorke is another great example - he was very close to the top of their board and nobody saw that pick coming, especially with PCA still on the board who everyone thought the Sox were in on.
Also, sign me TF up for Lesko, although I doubt that'd happen.
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Post by 0ap0 on May 19, 2022 8:55:02 GMT -5
Some context on Wagner - his entire senior HS season was cancelled due to COVID but he played his whole freshman year at Clemson anyways and was maybe one of the worst hitters in the ACC last season. That was back when he was named Min Wagner. |
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Post by jaffinator on May 19, 2022 12:52:50 GMT -5
Some context on Wagner - his entire senior HS season was cancelled due to COVID but he played his whole freshman year at Clemson anyways and was maybe one of the worst hitters in the ACC last season. That was back when he was named Min Wagner. oh nooooooooooooooooooooo |
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Post by jaffinator on May 21, 2022 11:18:38 GMT -5
Brock Jones has homers in 4 consecutive games. He's been a streaky hitter throughout his career, but when he gets hot he gets nuclear. Power/speed guy who's actually a two sport athlete (plays safety at Stanford) and has a sneaky good approach (walk rate above 18% each of the last two seasons). Would like to see him cut down on the Ks (K% of 23 this year) but you'd hope that improves when he becomes baseball only. Could very easily be in play for the Sox at 24.
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Post by costpet on May 21, 2022 12:39:51 GMT -5
Wouldn’t it be more interesting if the MLB draft was more like the NFL. You could trade picks. Now you’re just stuck with wherever you are.
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Post by Guidas on May 21, 2022 15:45:40 GMT -5
did the pitcher from UConn, Crawford, who is hitting 99 for team USA last year, get hurt?
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Post by Guidas on May 21, 2022 15:54:49 GMT -5
Wouldn’t it be more interesting if the MLB draft was more like the NFL. You could trade picks. Now you’re just stuck with wherever you are. Agreed. this could greatly help teams that have bottom tier farm systems, as well as teams that may just be one or two players away from legitimate contention. I don’t know what the incentive would be for either the owners or the players association, however, to approve. Maybe ownership would be more interested to make their draft more accessible. But, other than that, I’m not sure why either side would have this high on their list of negotiables. Maybe, you can sell the better players on the fact that, if your team is crappy, another team trading their draft picks for you in a pennant race or even in the off season could get you on a contender. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 21, 2022 16:29:35 GMT -5
did the pitcher from UConn, Crawford, who is hitting 99 for team USA last year, get hurt? He got TJ in Nov/Dec so will be out all year. |
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