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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 17, 2022 12:57:22 GMT -5
Any chance you saw where Cam Collier was ranked? Have a feeling we'll see the Sox linked to him He's #25 on the list. Perfect haha
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Post by tyler3 on Jan 17, 2022 13:29:07 GMT -5
connor prielipp…..man that would be interesting.
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Post by tyler3 on Jan 17, 2022 22:03:31 GMT -5
Does anybody have a guesstimate as to where we pick this year? I know 24th and 41…but we also got the comp round pick for ERod so. I know a couple free agents signings in the future will shift it a little…..
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 17, 2022 23:13:59 GMT -5
Does anybody have a guesstimate as to where we pick this year? I know 24th and 41…but we also got the comp round pick for ERod so. I know a couple free agents signings in the future will shift it a little….. The pick would be after Comp Round B, which last year would have started at 72, although at least so far the Sox would have the fourth highest comp pick. Things will move once the rest of the picks are sorted out, but I'd expect between 75-80. Here is the state of compensation so far, I believe (someone feel free to check me on this): Compensation (in order): Mets: After Comp Round B (Syndergaard) Blue Jays: After Comp Round B x2 (Ray, Semien) Red Sox: After Comp Round B (E-Rod) Dodgers: After the 4th Round (Seager) Penalty: Angels: Lose 2nd highest pick (Syndergaard) Rangers: Lose 2nd and 3rd highest picks (Semien, Seager) Tigers: Lose 3rd highest pick (E-Rod) Mariners: Lose 3rd highest pick (Ray) Still FA: Carlos Correa Freddie Freeman Michael Conforto Nick Castellanos Trevor Story ADD: forgot to mention the second round pick, which will most likely be around ~60-65 or so. A lot of moving pieces though.
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Post by tyler3 on Jan 18, 2022 21:05:45 GMT -5
So like 4 picks in the top 80 as it stands now. I’ll take it, thanks big man.
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 18, 2022 22:24:25 GMT -5
connor prielipp…..man that would be interesting. I would be surprised if he lasted there, unless the TJ rehab turns out to not be going so well - in which case he would go much lower. Someone'll take the risk, I feel like he's been too good when healthy not to.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 20, 2022 10:59:56 GMT -5
#13 on BA's top 100 draft prospects. Also had elbow injuries that ended his 2021 season.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 20, 2022 12:05:40 GMT -5
#13 on BA's top 100 draft prospects. Also had elbow injuries that ended his 2021 season. Admittedly I know nothing about this guy but might he be an option with their extra picks and pool money?
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 20, 2022 20:06:15 GMT -5
#13 on BA's top 100 draft prospects. Also had elbow injuries that ended his 2021 season. Admittedly I know nothing about this guy but might he be an option with their extra picks and pool money? So his deal was that in the COVID year as a freshman he was super dominant, he had to have TJ last season, and is projected to miss this year with that too. Throws a low-mid 90s fb that gets some swing and miss, a brilliant high 80s hard slider w/two plane break, and maybe a changeup. Honestly, I think another team'll take the risk on him before he ever gets to the Sox. Not too many high upside college arms this year and he's one.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 20, 2022 20:33:15 GMT -5
Admittedly I know nothing about this guy but might he be an option with their extra picks and pool money? So his deal was that in the COVID year as a freshman he was super dominant, he had to have TJ last season, and is projected to miss this year with that too. Throws a low-mid 90s fb that gets some swing and miss, a brilliant high 80s hard slider w/two plane break, and maybe a changeup. Honestly, I think another team'll take the risk on him before he ever gets to the Sox. Not too many high upside college arms this year and he's one. Are you thinking of Prielipp? The news on Pallette, who pitched well last year, broke yesterday.
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Post by tyler3 on Jan 20, 2022 21:54:45 GMT -5
connor prielipp…..man that would be interesting. I would be surprised if he lasted there, unless the TJ rehab turns out to not be going so well - in which case he would go much lower. Someone'll take the risk, I feel like he's been too good when healthy not to. True but he’s pitched so few games and been a while since that dominance. But who knows. Honestly though between Prielipp, Pallette, and Rocker, I think I’d be ok with any of them at 24 (last year I raged against Rocker at 4). I don’t all three of those names are gone by 24.
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 22, 2022 19:24:14 GMT -5
So his deal was that in the COVID year as a freshman he was super dominant, he had to have TJ last season, and is projected to miss this year with that too. Throws a low-mid 90s fb that gets some swing and miss, a brilliant high 80s hard slider w/two plane break, and maybe a changeup. Honestly, I think another team'll take the risk on him before he ever gets to the Sox. Not too many high upside college arms this year and he's one. Are you thinking of Prielipp? The news on Pallette, who pitched well last year, broke yesterday. Oh god I am - my mind just switched the names, thought we were talking about Prielipp still. Shame about Pallette though.
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 22, 2022 19:38:28 GMT -5
I'd be ok with taking a risk on a college arm with an injury. My preference would be Prielipp before Pallette though. Prielipp has thrown fewer innings, but has looked more polished in them. Pallette probably has the velo edge at the moment, but his fastball's looked touchable so far in his career. Both have great secondaries though. Hasn't all come together so far for Pallette the way it has with Prielipp. Also Pallette's second arm injury after he tried to rehab without surgery something last season.
edit: If Rocker's healthy, he's been the best of the bunch, but we have no idea there.
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Post by tyler3 on Jan 28, 2022 9:33:02 GMT -5
Man Blade Tidwell out now as well…at least for a little while. Going to be an interesting draft.
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Post by tyler3 on Jan 28, 2022 10:06:18 GMT -5
It might be worth it just to have a Blaze and a Blade on your team.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 28, 2022 10:09:01 GMT -5
TINSTAAPP forever. Yikes.
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Post by thelpc on Jan 28, 2022 10:59:22 GMT -5
No idea if he’s any good or not, but isn’t D’Angelo Ortiz supposed to be eligible for this year’s draft?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 28, 2022 11:55:14 GMT -5
No idea if he’s any good or not, but isn’t D’Angelo Ortiz supposed to be eligible for this year’s draft? He's in this class. Not ranked by PG.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 28, 2022 12:27:35 GMT -5
No idea if he’s any good or not, but isn’t D’Angelo Ortiz supposed to be eligible for this year’s draft? He's in this class. Not ranked by PG. Same with Manny Ramirez Jr. Under old draft rules, these 2 would be locks in the late rounds.
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Post by prospectlove on Jan 28, 2022 13:28:24 GMT -5
I have to believe this will be the year we take a couple (or more) pitchers with those first picks. Would seem the perfect time to target and find someone like a Matt Allen, Quinn Priester, or Mark Abel. (high upside high school pitchers who sign for more bonus money but have tools to play up into a #2/3 starter range.
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 28, 2022 14:37:33 GMT -5
Man Blade Tidwell out now as well…at least for a little while. Going to be an interesting draft. In terms of the college arms that are available with health problems, I still like Prielipp the most there, then Tidwell, then Pallette. Tidwell throws a pretty hard fastball, but it flies a little too straight for me, though he can make guys look silly when he elevates it. Shows two real off speed pitches (something neither Prielipp nor Pallette can really say to the same degree) but neither is as good as Prielipp's slider or Pallette's curve at the moment.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jan 28, 2022 14:47:01 GMT -5
TINSTAAPP forever. Yikes. translation please
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 28, 2022 14:48:46 GMT -5
TINSTAAPP forever. Yikes. translation please "There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect"
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 28, 2022 14:56:37 GMT -5
TINSTAAPP forever. Yikes. translation please It's brought up here to highlight the fact that lower level pitchers are inherently unpredictable, in large part due to the physical attrition that happens for pitchers. Pitching puts your body through a wringer, and there's no real way to know who's going to escape that wringer with their full effectiveness intact (and even losing a couple of percent effectiveness as a pitcher is huge - that's a couple mph on a heater).
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 28, 2022 19:41:03 GMT -5
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