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Chasing a Gold Glover: Ceddanne Rafaela
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Post by larrycook on Jun 19, 2022 21:59:45 GMT -5
Did Rafaela get hurt in the game today?
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Post by kman22 on Jun 19, 2022 22:10:02 GMT -5
Did Rafaela get hurt in the game today? From twitter, it sounds like ejected for arguing a call at first.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 20, 2022 15:39:03 GMT -5
Did Rafaela get hurt in the game today? From twitter, it sounds like ejected for arguing a call at first. Good news! I was hoping he would not miss much time.
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Post by jimoh on Jun 21, 2022 4:42:43 GMT -5
Did Rafaela get hurt in the game today? From twitter, it sounds like ejected for arguing a call at first. Rightly arguing a call where he clearly beat the throw. Does he move too fast for the naked eye to follow? 🙂
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Post by jimoh on Jun 21, 2022 4:42:56 GMT -5
Did Rafaela get hurt in the game today? From twitter, it sounds like ejected for arguing a call at first. Rightly arguing a call where he clearly beat the throw. Does he move too fast for the naked eye to follow? 🙂 Feets of Ceddanne.
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Post by chr31ter on Jun 27, 2022 9:04:28 GMT -5
Man, I thought Rafaela was playing pretty well until I read Keith Law's article today that explained to me that he was really struggling in AA.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2022 9:45:36 GMT -5
Man, I thought Rafaela was playing pretty well until I read Keith Law's article today that explained to me that he was really struggling in AA. Per usual for a Law article, I don't think this is a fair read of what he wrote at all. He noted that facing Kyle Harrison wasn't the best time for an evaluation of a guy. There was one weird comment about why he's struggling with certain pitch types that I wonder whether he got access to Trackman-type data. At any rate, in his last 2 series, Rafaela is hitting .225/.256/.600, with 2 of his 3 home runs in the Reading bandbox. Not a reason to be concerned necessarily, just that it's also not like he's dominating.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 27, 2022 11:11:39 GMT -5
He's all of 21 and won't be 22 until the year is just about over. He's in AA just a step from the majors. And while the defense is ML ready, a period of adjustment is to be expected to see if the hit tool plays out at this level. Pitchers will figure out very quickly that despite his size he's got some pop. They'll probe his swing for holes and they've got the tools to do that. No surprises here.
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Post by bosox904 on Jul 6, 2022 12:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on Jul 14, 2022 10:30:46 GMT -5
ADD: I highly recommend listening to the whole podcast.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jul 14, 2022 12:44:20 GMT -5
What respected person in Portland is saying Rafaela is the best prospect they have ever seen come through, lol
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Post by nomar on Jul 14, 2022 13:03:23 GMT -5
What respected person in Portland is saying Rafaela is the best prospect they have ever seen come through, lol There has to be a respectable Greenville man who can compare Kavadas to Babe Ruth then
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Post by incandenza on Jul 14, 2022 13:18:39 GMT -5
What respected person in Portland is saying Rafaela is the best prospect they have ever seen come through, lol It's plausible if they've only been there since 2015. (Thinking he's better than Devers was at the time is a stretch, but saying he's better than Mookie is pretty much unthinkable.)
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Post by Guidas on Jul 14, 2022 13:22:53 GMT -5
Man, I thought Rafaela was playing pretty well until I read Keith Law's article today that explained to me that he was really struggling in AA. Per usual for a Law article, I don't think this is a fair read of what he wrote at all. He noted that facing Kyle Harrison wasn't the best time for an evaluation of a guy. There was one weird comment about why he's struggling with certain pitch types that I wonder whether he got access to Trackman-type data. At any rate, in his last 2 series, Rafaela is hitting .225/.256/.600, with 2 of his 3 home runs in the Reading bandbox. Not a reason to be concerned necessarily, just that it's also not like he's dominating. Three weeks later: .282AVE .331OBP .564SLG .895OPS As long as he (or the MLB team, for that matter) is not facing Kyle Harrison every day, he seems to be fine so far. Harrison (119ks in 71 1/3 innings, 1.07 WHIP), for those who don't know, projects as a #1 starter and could probably successfully start today for all 30 MLB teams if given the opportunity. Filthy stuff and easy cheese.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 14, 2022 13:51:01 GMT -5
It sounds like Rafaela is turning into a polarizing prospect, with the bears recognizing that his glove could carry an unimpressive bat in the majors.
If someone actually believes in him in as hitter then they should have a crazy grade on him.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 14, 2022 16:30:59 GMT -5
What respected person in Portland is saying Rafaela is the best prospect they have ever seen come through, lol It's plausible if they've only been there since 2015. (Thinking he's better than Devers was at the time is a stretch, but saying he's better than Mookie is pretty much unthinkable.) Casas, Bello, maybe Duran, maybe Mata, maybe Chavis, Benintendi, Devers... yeah, get outta here with the best ever on Rafaela even in recent history. That's bonkers.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 14, 2022 16:45:14 GMT -5
It's plausible if they've only been there since 2015. (Thinking he's better than Devers was at the time is a stretch, but saying he's better than Mookie is pretty much unthinkable.) Casas, Bello, maybe Duran, maybe Mata, maybe Chavis, Benintendi, Devers... yeah, get outta here with the best ever on Rafaela even in recent history. That's bonkers. If your focus is on defense and athleticism, he certainly blows all of those guys out of the water. Edit: I'm not familiar with the makeup of the Portland coaching staff. Could it be that the coach in question focuses purely on defense? It's possible there is context missing.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 14, 2022 19:01:26 GMT -5
Nice, strongly positive but sober discussion of Cedanne by Red Sox Director of Player Development Brian Abraham in the new podcast, starting at 1:03 or so and with specific reference to the question of batting approach. Understands the strike zone but likes to swing a lot, is improving and can improve more on that, has things to work on, intelligent player who makes adjustments. news.soxprospects.com/2022/07/podcast-ep-253-director-of-player.html
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 15, 2022 8:47:10 GMT -5
Nice, strongly positive but sober discussion of Cedanne by Red Sox Director of Player Development Brian Abraham in the new podcast, starting at 1:03 or so and with specific reference to the question of batting approach. Understands the strike zone but likes to swing a lot, is improving and can improve more on that, has things to work on, intelligent player who makes adjustments. news.soxprospects.com/2022/07/podcast-ep-253-director-of-player.htmlHm. Feel like I've heard a lot of that before somewhere...
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 15, 2022 11:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on Jul 16, 2022 16:03:22 GMT -5
Best defender in MiLB has also the best drip
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 16, 2022 17:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 5, 2022 19:03:43 GMT -5
I noticed some statistical similarities of these two players earlier today and thought others may find this interesting:
Rafaela (Field: 60, Arm: 60, Speed: 60, Bat-Speed: 60): Age 20 (A): .251/.305/.424, 10 HR, 23 SB, 5.8% BB, 18.3% K (432 PA) Age 21 (A+): .330/.368/.594, 9 HR, 13 SB, 4.8% BB, 24.4% K (209 PA) Age 21 (AA): .285/.331/.521, 8 HR, 8 SB, 4.5%, 20.1% K (179 PA)
Player A (Field: 55-60, Arm: 65, Speed: 50, Bat-Speed: 60): Age 21 (A+): .276/.331/.439, 12 HR, 5 SB, 7.3% BB, 25.2% K (481 PA) Age 22 (AA): .302/.345/.520, 18 HR, 6 SB, 5.3% BB, 23.9% K (397 PA)
Rafaela is almost exactly 1 year younger in the shown seasons. The main things separating these players is the size, 5'8" 152 lbs compared to 6'4" 200 lbs and the positions SS/CF to 3B.
I wonder, if it wasn't for his size and his multi-position usage, would we be talking about Rafaela as the best prospect in the system? Does his lack of size validate his less heralded status? (obviously we would all rather be 6'4" than 5'8" - I speak from experience)
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Post by bosox904 on Aug 5, 2022 20:54:03 GMT -5
I noticed some statistical similarities of these two players earlier today and thought others may find this interesting: Rafaela (Field: 60, Arm: 60, Speed: 60, Bat-Speed: 60): Age 20 (A-): .251/.305/.424, 10 HR, 23 SB, 5.8% BB, 18.3% K (432 PA) Age 21 (A+): .330/.368/.594, 9 HR, 13 SB, 4.8% BB, 24.4% K (209 PA) Age 21 (AA): .285/.331/.521, 8 HR, 8 SB, 4.5%, 20.1% K (179 PA) Player A (Field: 55-60, Arm: 65, Speed: 50, Bat-Speed: 60): Age 21 (A+): .276/.331/.439, 12 HR, 5 SB, 7.3% BB, 25.2% K (481 PA) Age 22 (AA): .302/.345/.520, 18 HR, 6 SB, 5.3% BB, 23.9% K (397 PA) Rafaela is almost exactly 1 year younger in the shown seasons. The main things separating these players is the size, 5'8" 152 lbs compared to 6'4" 200 lbs and the positions SS/CF to 3B. I wonder, if it wasn't for his size and his multi-position usage, would we be talking about Rafaela as the best prospect in the system? Does his lack of size validate his less heralded status? (obviously we would all rather be 6'4" than 5'8" - I speak from experience) So who is the other player? The heightade me think Casas at forst, but the BB% are nowhere near close to be him at any level.
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Post by azblue on Aug 5, 2022 21:55:20 GMT -5
Is Rafaela only 5-8, 152? We have heard that he is perhaps 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier now. Is accurate information available about his height and weight?
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